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Linda5
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« on: February 26, 2012, 09:35:42 PM »

Thanks to your support, I learned my step-daughter is a malignant narcassist that also has borderline personality disorder.  She lost her mother at seven, and I raised her. She is now 31 years old, married and has a thirteen month old baby. Her pregancy seemed to have triggered more dysfunction and her target seems to be me.  Her goal has always been to tear apart our marriage so that she can have her Daddy all to herself. She had us in a constant state of chaos and fear for twenty days (the longest labor EVER). In hindsight, I still can't believe all the lies she told, and how malicious her intentions were. I pretty much had a breakdown and refused to be taken advantage of again.  Sadly, she pulled me into the chaos all over again by tugging at my heartstrings as it related to the baby.  The baby was always sick and at one point, I am pretty sure I saved our grandaughter's life. I guess I am trying to explain how difficult it has been, and once I realized she was making the baby sick, or constipated, not feeding baby food etc. for my attention; I had to stay out of the drama. Now I feel like she is making me pay. 

She is manipulating my husband and controlling him like a puppet.  He discloses information about our marriage or children to her, and she figures out a way to sabotage anything my husband gives his attention too.  His trivial discussions of our family plans boomerang back to hurt him and our family. He tells her he is taking me away for the weekend and the next thing you know our weekend away is mysteriously cancelled, and my husband is furious with me but won't tell me why.

She tells him and her brother things that make them hate me. It's always the three of them against me.  What I don't understand is why no one asks me my side of the story?  I have stopped defending myself a long time ago, however, no one even cares what I have to say.  They just listen to her and punish me with their anger. 

She really wants me in her life, and wants me to be a part of her daughter's life . . . and sadly, I know that she just got pregnant again to punish me.  It's as though she manipulates the people I love to force them to control me into a doormat relationship with her.  Take care of my child, focus all of your attention on me . . . I am in a no win situation and can't figure out how to get out. 

For the past six months, I have not discussed anything personal with my husband understanding that she pumps him for information. We have been talking about our pet rabbit, whom we both love. He longs for us to be close again, but he is in complete denial as it relates to his daughter. Sadly, I can't shake the creepy feeling that I will come home one day and find the rabbit in a pot of boiling water.  The kicker is . . . my husband would probably blame me.

Things were quiet over the past few weeks, but now I know that they were quiet because she was targeting her younger brother, our biological son.  My heart is broken in a million pieces, because I have no idea what lies he was told and have no idea how to repair my relationshiip with him. She is a lawyer, a ruthless manipulator, and has no compassion for her younger siblings or anyone. And I just want to shake my husband, how can he let this happen? 

I obviously need help.  Throughout the years we have had several therapists and psychologists that have all been manipulated by my husband and daughter.  My children mean everything to me, I can't have them turning against me; shunning me.  It's causing dysfunction in them, and hurting their self esteem.  I appreciate your advice and support.  Thank you.   
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2012, 07:18:36 AM »

Hi Linda,

Welcome. So glad you found this place. I think this board will be a good support for you.

I've never heard the term "malignant narcissist" (not sure if this is an official designation OR if this is a term of your own creation...) but it is obvious that from what you describe in your SD that this woman is a malignant force in your life.

I am also a step-mom and my step-daughter lost her Mom when she was 12 but her Mom was ill with cancer since SD was 7 years old.

I came into the picture when SD was 13 and moved in with her and her Dad (my S/O) when she was 15. I knew something was wrong with her before I moved in but had no idea of the entire scope of dysfunction until I had been here for awhile.

It took me a long time to open her Dad's eyes to what was going on with her. Until he did, things were going nowhere. My SD isn't narcissistic so we didn't have some of the more disturbing things you describe. When I read that your husband doesn't understand her affliction it fills me with despair for you.

Obviously, it is imperative that your husband and other family begin to understand that they are dealing with a sick, very sick person. I don't know what else to say but I think that coming here you will find someone with some advice, someone who has been in a similar situation. Someone who might be able to lighten your load with some meaningful advice.

Please keep posting.

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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2012, 01:25:31 PM »

Hi,

Thank you. I appreciate your kindness. I have been living with this for a long time and now I feel like I have the words to describe what's happening . . . thanks to the people who have responded to my posts.

As it relates to your question "In 1970, Otto Kernberg coined the term, "malignant narcissism"; he pointed out that the antisocial personality was fundamentally narcissistic and without morality. Malignant narcissism includes a sadistic element, creating, in essence, a sadistic psychopath." It goes on to say that they create mignons or their "followers", if these people do not do what the narcissist says, they are severely punished.  My husband is in the "FOG" of trying to please her, because if he doesn't, she puts a knife through his heart and attacks his weaknesses.  Guilt is what she uses on him.  She becomes the poor little girl who lost her Mommy.

How did you get her Dad to open his eyes?  What I am learning is very frightening.  My husband is confiding in her and making us all unsafe.  She has convinced him and my two sons that I am the one who is crazy. Again, learned from my last post . . . . She is projecting . . .

I appreciate your kindness.  I have no idea how to get through to him or my sons.  She needs help. I am trying to protect myself and my children.

Thank you.

 
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2012, 05:13:02 PM »

Hi Linda,

What you are reporting is frightening, especially since your DD is intelligent and high functioning. What you report about her child almost sounds like Munchausen's Syndrom by Proxy. Very scary stuff...I wish I had more to help you.

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How did you get her Dad to open his eyes?

My SD has addiction and I was finally able to get him to see that she was lying about some missing medication. I got him to open his eyes by just very slowly going through the logic of the situation. Putting two and two together, different events that we knew about for sure with events she was lying about or misrepresenting. I would try to find really relaxed times to bring these things up because he had a tendency to get defensive about her behavior.

Understanding that she had stolen medication (hydrocodone for my DD's minor surgery) made it easier for him to accept that she was hiding some level of addiction but we really didn't know the true extent of it until we took away her car for a drunk driving incident and she went through withdrawals with subsequent grand-mal seizure right in front of her Dad. This was a very key moment to his accepting that she had bigger problems than he ever believed possible. So, as you can see, there was an element of chance involved as well.

But, I will say that I had done enough chipping away at his denial that once he saw her seizure he was ready to STOP the enabling because he had been sort of building a mental dossier in his head of this and that until it created a really whole picture of her mental illness.

Is there any way that you can maybe get some facts together in writing for him, facts that might be irrefutable in a logical way that he can't stand in denial of? Such as I did about the theft?

For instance, When SD took my daughter's drugs the only people that had been in the house were the four of us. He knew I didn't take it, he knew my DD wanted it for her pain and wouldn't have kept herself from it and he knew I wouldn't have taken my daughters pain meds, I also wanted her to have it. SD was left alone and knew we would be gone for awhile. During this time frame she didn't hit him up for money ( the inference was she either took the drugs or sold them for money, thus she didn't need to spend her money on drugs until the drugs she stole ran out OR she had money from the sales for a period of time.

Then after he had absorbed all of that I put together a list of facts about her money. I had collected pay stubs from her job, she left them laying arousnd and instead of putting them away in her room, I saved them in an envelope. he was always claiming to be broke, her reports of her pay HAD to be wrong based on the number of hours she was at work and how many days a week she was working. He had a tracker on her phone and I would document on paper when she was at work whenever he tracked her in front of me. I added up all of the paystubs and what he predicted was how much she took home, was off by several hundred dollars. Then I went over what her normal living expenses would be on a weekly basis, and also put down on paper whenever she borrowed money, how much and the dates. So, then he had to really SEE that she made plenty of money to live and that he was supplementing her income by a fairly large amount. What was she spending her money on?

It was a lot of work for me but it was really the only way to give him the big picture because he would believe her lies.

We have also gone to Alanon and his learning of enabling behavior got him to see that he was enabling and actually keeping her from "Needing" to be sober, or chosing to be sober.

This is, I think, quite a different situation than the one you are involved in but it is obviously imperative for you (and then obviously for your families ultimate safety) to be able to get your husband to open his eyes. I would start by reading the workshops here and any other books anyone else might want to recommend.

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