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« on: February 13, 2012, 10:57:20 AM »

I feel so confused and spun out. The holidays were a night mare with major rages in every shape and form. I went and retained an attorney because she said she was filing. Now a month and a half latter no papers but still weird manipulative behavior and lies about money and the kids.

Now my question. She now says I have borderline and doesn't trust me with the kids. Is this commen? Her projection of everything she fears about herself projected towards me?

I am now so fragile that I had my doctor prescribe anti anxiety medicine. Thank goodness it has calmed me down but my life at home is a living hell. To make matters worse we have a six year old boy, one year old girl and a mortgage that is slightly over a year old.  cry
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2012, 11:41:22 AM »

sandstone,

I feel for you man.  It is very common.  Projection is one way that pwBPD deal with shame.  Sounds to me like she fears you are going to use her BPD to keep the kids from her.

I would highly suggest you post on the Legal board.  People there have been through it, and have really REALLY great advice.  You need to be very careful right now, because it is possible that she will go even further off the deep end.


 Man hug   Keep your chin up.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2012, 11:55:51 AM »

Hey thanks it is like living in the twilight zone. I also have a lot of guilt because part of me wants to divorce so that I can have my life back but the other part of me doesn't want to because it means not seeing the kids everyday.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2012, 12:52:24 PM »

Hey thanks it is like living in the twilight zone. I also have a lot of guilt because part of me wants to divorce so that I can have my life back but the other part of me doesn't want to because it means not seeing the kids everyday.



I am in exactly the same boat, except the part of me that wants a divorce has reasoned with the other part, and now I am just trying to figure out HOW.


In my case, the thing you are struggling with was answered when I really started to realize that I am not giving my kids a fair shot at being mentally healthy, or having healthy non-abusive relationships in their future.  Yes, it is going to suck donkey testicles to not see them everyday... just the thought hurts so much.  But for me, at least, I have decided that doing the right thing here has to be a part of fatherly love... in that it isn't always easy or comfortable, but it is (hopefully) best for the children in the long run.


For a long time I "stayed for the kids".  Hell, even right now my wife doesn't know my plans (I am in the early stages of this decision), so I am still sort of staying for the kids.  What I have come to see though (and it has taken me years...) is that in this case... in MY specific situation, the "studies on children of divorced parents" and all that other stuff just doesn't apply.  I see the way my wife's behavior is affecting my children and I want so badly to show them that there is another way.  Marriage, and life in general, doesn't have to be like THIS! 

I don't want my crazy relationship to become their standard for "normal".




But I waffled for a long time.  I committed to staying for a long time.  I tried therapy, logic, reasoning, compassion, validation, communication tools (SET and the like) before I finally decided it wasn't going to work out. 

I wish you the best of luck on your path, sandstone.
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2012, 07:26:15 PM »

Hi sandstone and  Welcome!

I have heard this quite a few times on the board.

Your wife fears abandonment to the core and may well be afraid that you will get full custody.

I do suggest you post this on the Leaving Board: Family law, divorce and custody board as many members have been through custody, separation issues. The process requires the new use of vocab to explain the situation in a court arena.

Facing The Facts About Personality Disorders and the Family Courts

Be kind to you and write everything in a diary - things your kids say to you, your wife says and does. Documentation is key.  Doing the right thing
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2012, 07:34:01 PM »

 Welcome!

Has your wife been diagnosed?  In addition, I can see that having two children who are so young would also be making things worse. 
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2012, 11:42:01 AM »

Currently my wife is experiencing Post Partum Depression and is taking Zoloft. She is breast feeding the little one and will be hormonily off for the next few months. One of our marriage therapists told me after my wife stopped going that she had Narrcasist leanings but was so guarded in therapy and wrapped up in blame and self victimization that it was not completly clear to her. She recommended leaving in an indirect therapist kind of way.

She fears me having custody at all. My attorney told me that if she files we will be going after a 50/50 split and sees no reason why we can not get at least close to this. Part of her verbal abuse is based on her projections of my poor parenting and safety for the kids. Before I realized that her belief structure was based on irrational thought, projections and complete fantasy I would stress trying to understand her critiques to hopefully learn something. You know like a healthy relationship when people help each other grow. Then one day, as things grew even more bizzare it dawned on me, that she was just in alot of pain and wanted me to feel the same. When I left this morning to go to work the anguish on her face was painful to see. She is suffering but I am unable to save her from the mental quicksand that she is in.

I used to keep a journal and need to start again. Thanks everyone for your feedback. It is helpful to know that I do not make this journey alone.
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