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Think About It... Some members think of "triangulation" as a dysfunctional behavior perpetrated on them by a person with BPD. And why not - this is how we often see triangles when we are in them and the '"odd man out"! However, seeing it this way is exactly the opposite of what we want to do to end the drama.. ~ Skippy
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« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2012, 07:17:25 PM »

GreenMango- you are correct on all counts, and these are things that I have been considering. And I think I'm prepared for his Hail Mary pass. In fact, I'm waiting for it. I've reached the point now where if things were to escalate severely, or suddenly, I could go without a second thought.
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« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2012, 07:53:31 PM »

Hi there

Captain M is very correct in what he says about this being your choice and it's your time scale, but what Green Mango said about your NPDh picking up on subtle changes to behaviour, is also very true.  This is a violent man who thinks nothing of using rape to control you, and that is whilst you are conforming and staying with him!

You mentioned that you think this could take a year to actually come to your leaving the relationship.  A year is quite a long time for someone to notice changes in patterns of behaviour etc.  If you are going to wait up to a year before leaving, then as Green Mango said, you are going to have your work cut-out to be as vigilant as you will need to be!  I don't know if I could keep up a convincing act for so long!  You are going to need to cover your tracks, act as if nothing has changed, talk about the future when he wants to, as convincingly as you used to do etc etc

I am very worried about what further damage he could do to you and your children over the course of 12 months.  Given what he has put you through physically & emotionally, he is clearly a very dangerous person.  I would hate to think what he would be capable of doing, if he got wind of you planning on leaving him.  Narcissists do not take being left very well.  Narcissists are generally the ones who do the leaving.

All you can do is take all of this into consideration when setting your time scale, and try to make provisions in case things turn sour prematurely (more sour).  

Do you have a member of your side of the family or a close friend that you could trust with your life?  Could you make them aware, and could they be prepared to take you and the children if you had to make a quick exit?  
Perhaps have a code-word or phrase you could text them, if something changed and you needed help quick.  Just to protect yourselves.  You could text 'How is your friend doing after her fall'.  That would be something you could save on your phone as a draft, and then send in an emergency and your friend would know what you meant.  That way, even if your h came across your phone, he would not suspect anything.

Could you perhaps begin to store some things very gradually at your friend's house?  Perhaps bit by bit you could get things like your driving license, photos, birth certificates, your passports, very important things of sentimental value, and anything other that you would have to have with you, and anything that he may withhold from you out of spite, should he find out your plans.  Obviously if he tends to take care of household documents, then he may notice some of the above documents missing, so perhaps photocopying things might be a compromise, or getting certified copies of things made and stored.  I've heard people on here mentioning that it's important to get hold of the marriage certificate, if you are hoping to file for divorce at some point.

Perhaps a good idea if you did have somewhere to store bits and pieces, would be to let your h think you are having a clear out.  You could genuinely put some old things in bags to take to a charity, but then put some clothes for you and the kids in another bag, and take that to your safe place.  Even if it were just enough clothes to get you all by for a few days, until you were in a position to get back into the house for the rest of your stuff, once you'd left.  

I don't want to appear over the top or that I'm trying to scare you, and it may be that you never need the provisions you will make, but at least if you prepare for the worst, you have peace of mind that you've covered yourself.

I'm sure you will get loads of advice from people on here as to what things to watch out for, and I think the suggestion of the legal board on here is great advice.

I think you are brave and inspiring, and your kids will be very proud of their mother, when they come to understand one day.

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« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2012, 08:25:28 PM »

Oh, the year is very likely a best case scenario... if he gives me a real reason to leave, I will. Not that he hasn't but, I would like to be able to call the cops even once on him, so he can't say I'm just crazy when it comes to court.

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« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2012, 08:26:14 PM »

I understand what you are saying  Empathy
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« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2012, 08:40:32 PM »

Not that he hasn't but, I would like to be able to call the cops even once on him, so he can't say I'm just crazy when it comes to court.

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Good to hear of your emergency safety plan.  And the above statement is exactly what I mean by very calculating.  Unfortunately, you seem to be in a position where if you are honest about your feelings and where you are at in the relationship will only provoke him.  Being honest is the ideal, but the situation is complicated.  Document, document, document...daily journals, pics of kids bruises, everything.
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« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2012, 08:58:33 PM »

Wow, Momentario,
Your situation and how your handling it is amazing.
I wish I had a crystal ball, and I wish I had taken the advice I was given, when I told my ex H it was time he left.

If I had held out just 1 month more and planned, today would be so different. (and that was in 2001).
Also, if I had taken good advice in 1997, I wouldnt have ended up bankrupt (involved in his business), lost the family home and my car. I would have had a home to raise the kids instead of rent hopping.

It was my loyalty to him and the marriage and the false notion that my kids would be better off in a two parent family. They wernt.

It sounds like you are planning really well and regardless of moving out before your grandparents house becomes vacant, theres no reason you still cant take it when it is available.

I'll be thinking of you anbd hoping your ok. But of course you will be , because you are remarkable.
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« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2012, 09:37:54 PM »

Thanks everyone... Sometimes I think back and wonder what my life would look like if I had never joined FtF, but like with any other life changing moment, it's kind of difficult to remember what it was like before.
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« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2012, 09:42:21 PM »

Thanks everyone... Sometimes I think back and wonder what my life would look like if I had never joined FtF, but like with any other life changing moment, it's kind of difficult to remember what it was like before.


I know exactly what you mean!  I was looking back at my first post today, and couldn't believe that it was just a matter of a couple of weeks ago!  I feel like I've been here for months (in a positive way), because everyone is so friendly and supportive, and also because recently my days have been very slow, whilst adjusting to being single again.

I think I'd have been in a very dark place at the moment, had I not found this site.
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« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2012, 10:44:52 PM »

Thanks everyone... Sometimes I think back and wonder what my life would look like if I had never joined FtF, but like with any other life changing moment, it's kind of difficult to remember what it was like before.


I know exactly what you mean!  I was looking back at my first post today, and couldn't believe that it was just a matter of a couple of weeks ago!  I feel like I've been here for months (in a positive way), because everyone is so friendly and supportive, and also because recently my days have been very slow, whilst adjusting to being single again.

I think I'd have been in a very dark place at the moment, had I not found this site.

...and second guessing yourself as well  as I did
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« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2012, 10:49:35 PM »


...and second guessing yourself as well  as I did

Very much so!   Doing the right thing
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