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« on: April 02, 2012, 06:19:29 PM »

Has been a tough week for me - starting with last week. Spring break, stay-cation ends on Weds. Not handling total lack of routine, working from home while everyone else in house -- blah blah blah. As DD25 keeps reminding me "everything is all about you mom". Then to top it off all these things have come together to put DD into a bad state about her not being "the mom" for gd. Much of it is good news for me, but then I have some reason or other to include DD -- well it is about her too. But she sees it all a bad news for her -- or another way of bringing up that dh and I are raising gd6 even with her in the house. So I am trying to be gracious and understanding of her mind-state in the horrible ways she has been treating me in front of gd the past few days. Dh is wanting to let things "get better" before I pursue getting her out of the house. She has no where to go except under a tree in the city park moving, moving to keep from getting an illegal camping or loitering ticket. I know this is a big ramble - the best I can do for now.

What is the list of things that has come about over this 'spring break'?
Call from child support enforcement office with new case for gd6 - we are getting child only TANF benefits to help with costs for her and the CSE is a requirement. The case for DD will be filed with zero support due because of her disability status with county (she gets Adult Needy Disabled cash stipend as long as she is active in her case to get federal SSI disabilty benefits. So if DD will stop by the office and sign the paperwork she can avoid the fees to have them 'served' on her. So I told DD about this - good thing to me, brought lots of bad feelings close to surface for DD.

Got appt. with new lawyer for the SSI appeal to federal district court. APPT friday with lawyer one hour drive away. I was dreading this, and it was a difficult drive there, more difficult home and since. I was sick so dh drove and gd had to come by default - no school, friends all busy, we have no family support with gd anymore. In filling out the request to waive the filing fees due to DD indigent status attorney asked about her marital status (she hates to speak that she is divorced - brings up loss of her son in foster care and deportation of her husband) and if she had dependent children. DD insisted on putting gd on there even though she is certainly not DD's dependent. And this set DD off on her anger roll that continues today about dh and I having permament custody when she signed a temporary order (in 2006). Just makes me want to gag to hear her attitudes about this. We have spent all our savings on this beautiful child, and much emotional and mental energy as well. DD has just not been there for her little girl ---and yes DD is doing the best she can, and can do better and on and on with all the DBT assumptions. THey just don't make me feel any better anymore.

Then we get in the mail an application for DD to enter a drawing for medicaid benefits for Adults without Dependent CHildren. OMG - another reference to the fact that gd6 is under our custody and not DD's. And this is such a good opportunity in my whole being - though DD most likely would not take advantage of the options medicaid would give her for treatment and therapy. She has to get a new state photo ID (hers was taken when she was arrested 2/27 for DUI - though she proclaims her innocence. I do not know what to believe about this proclamation) and sign the form. At least we have a few weeks to get this done. And with my money most likely.

And then gd's daddyA calls from his release from prison to another sober house - give me address to give the CSE people so they can send him the child support papers. Tell gd he loves her and misses her. It is his happy family fantasy -- he has not seen her since we kicked him out of house at New Years Day 2007. Gd is struggling to remember who this is that keeps calling her and writing her saying he loves her. She refuses to talk to him at this point, or talk about him. This is new behavior in past few months. Maybe she is growing up enough to realize that he is not HERE FOR HER. And I have told him he cannot show up at my door to visit her and then just walk away again - as he has outstanding warrant in this state if he ever gets done with his parole where he is now. So I get this letter, on day 3 of his stay  at newest sober house, with usually assurances of how hard he is going to work at this, and how he is going to get is legal stuff taken care of in our state so he can be a daddy for gd. (he is facing 2-6 years in prison here for probation violations when he left state back in 2007 on felony menacing and 3rd degree assault conviction -- he beat up cops when out of his mind drunk/high being arrested for disrupting the peace. THis is his pattern - gets crazy when drunk). Then I started getting phone calls 2 days ago wanting bus ticket - he had walked from sober house as could not do the group thing. Wanted to go to his family in another part of state. I said, sorry but no. THen he calls DD - and now she puts pressure on me about making things too hard for him and for her around their daughter -- my standards are too high for them to achieve. AND HE IS WANTING BUS TICKET HERE TO SEE GD, AND I HAD BETTER LET HIM!

So what is that - four big things to dysregulate DD around gd's status. THis is her MAJOR TRIGGER for raging against me. And she has been mostly sarcastic. until last night when she walked through the living room on her way to have a cigarette and looked at gd and said: I love you gd and would never ever hurt you. But I feel like hurting grandma all the time.  OMG OMG OMG

So I asked gd at bedtime how she was feeling. She repeated back to me exactly what her mom had said. ANd then held up her hand like a gun and asked "like this grandma?"  We talked about how I was going to keep myself safe, about how she was going to keep herself safe --- what 6 year old should have to be having this conversation? And gd said she wishes her mom lived in a motel and then she could go visit her. I replied we do not have money for a motel. Mom would be living in the park again. So much sadness here.

DD and friendG were gone for a while and so I asked dh what he was willing to do about this. That I did not feel safe in my home, gd did not feel safe in our home -- did he feel safe. He thinks I am over-reacting to everything. Today DD says I am over-reacting to everything --- Dh confronted her when she came home last night about gd's bedtime conversation.

So DD says to gd today that she would not actually hurt me - she just feels like it sometimes. She said "it is like when you try to bite grandma, you do not mean to hurt her".  I just kept quiet - I just wanted to scream GD IS A CHILD BEHAVING LIKE A CHILD -- YOU ARE AN ADULT, ACT LIKE ONE.

So I am trying to do the validating things, the DBT assumption things, the Wise Mind things -- it is just not working for me today. All I can do is my best to be here for gd today (she skipped her bike camp that she was begging for with a tummy ache this morning - think she wants to stick by me to be sure I will still be here for her!), and avoid DD. ANd DD confronted me about not talking to her. I said I did not have anything to say that would make anything better for anyone. It seemed when I got involved in anything with her it just seemed to make things worse. The best I can do right now is to stay quiet.

So DD has taken friendG toa workforce appt - hope he gets a job - he is a good guy and contributes to the household. Hope they don't come back until I am in bed asleep. And I am a really bad wife as well - have not been able to feel connected to dh in an intimate way for a very long time. Maybe I should just leave - but nowhere to go. Maybe a tree in the park would work for me as well.

Need to go cook dinner now. Feeling deserted by God and everyone else tonight. Need to stop thinking for a bit.

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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2012, 08:09:36 PM »

qcr,
I am exhausted just by reading about all the bureaucratic hurdles you are maneuvering all at the same time.  Very trying in itself without dd's ex attempting to show up and dd getting very dysregulated about all the things you are trying to arrange.  I do not think you are over-reacting to the comment about dd saying to your gd that sometimes she wants to hurt you.  Even if she didn't mean it, gd heard it and that is terrible for her.  My thoughts are with you--I hope you find peace under your mental tree the way griz finds it in her bookstore. 
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2012, 08:25:18 PM »

hugs and warmest wishes for you.  love    Empathy

On planet perfect you tell gd the way it is. She  understands the ins and outs of all of this skewed adult behavior.  Her Birth Dad gives up soon on the fantasy family. Meanwhile your DD understands her limitations and feels gratitude to you and her father for all you have done for her and your GD.

Over in my perfect world, SD goes out and looks for a job. Right now she is claiming to be soooo impaired as regards this effort...impaired by my heart attack. How does that even work. And thusly, now Her Dad is worried about her.

Fffffffttttt. (air going out of my sails) Commisserating with you, Q.

Crap.

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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2012, 08:39:43 PM »

big hugs to you qcarol and gd6...kudos to your dh for being calm in the storm...

recently read a book about boundaries...picked it up for $1  on clearance  wink ...thought...maybe i will learn at least one new thing...guess what...i did  grin

simply put...if we are still talking after our boundaries have been violated we are choosing to pick up the end of the tug of war rope and participate...if we are still talking that means we/the subject/behaviors are open for negotiation.

so i like your choice to "be quiet"... i need to practice that more  cool

to thursday,

i read on another thread (and you alluded to it here) that you have suffered a health crisis.  i hope that you are getting all the care and concern that you can handle.  know that we value you and your perspective, your opinion, your thoughts, your ideas, your persona that comes through in your posts.  i pray for a speedy recovery for you and days filled with peace and contentment.

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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2012, 08:44:39 PM »


Fffffffttttt. (air going out of my sails) Commisserating with you, Q.

Crap.


Yeah - this is it exactly grin  OK, so dinner with everyone acting sane helped a lot. DD did not even over-react when dh brought up the police contact we expect tomorrow about the hermit-flight attendant-dog/noise hating neighbor that has been harassing us for the past 6 months. DD thought he was referring to her DUI meeting with the DA office next week. Forgot to include this in the "LIST" since it doesn't have gd in the middle of it.

This soon to retire neighbor, who has harrassed other neighbors in the past about dogs barking, BBQ's, power washing prior to painting has been leaving annoymous letters on our door about dogs barking. She keeps a diary when she is home. Then on Sunday night - 11:40pm- the doorbell is rung multiple times and another nasty note. But this time DD and I are there and see her walking away down the street as the DOG ACROSS THE STREET CONTINUES TO BARK AS IT HAS FOR THE PAST 2 HOURS.  We have been locking our poor pup inside from 9pm to 7am EVERYNIGHT for months. So I called police to report this harrassment - she is out of town until Tuesday. This is her M.O. -- she calls code enforcement right before she leaves for 2-3 days with her complaint. I have already talked to them a couple of times.

So this was another area of contention with DD yesterday evening as she was talking at the dinner table about taking vengence with toilet paper or eggs while said neighbor was out of town. I thought that was bad for gd to be hearing at the time.  And dh seemed to get that DD was joking and I took it all too serious yet again.

So I have to figure out how to just let go of much of this for now. DD has been working to restore her r/s with gd. Seems she got it when dh confronted her about impact on gd of her threat to me.

My reality - this has set back gd's trust in her mom yet again --- she has been my little shadow today. Gd and I are doing a 4 week workshop program Tuesday in April - REAL GIRLS, REAL PARENTS by the Girls Leadership Insititute. It is an 'empower girls' series. I think it will be great for gd and I. I have asked DD and friendG to cook dinner on Tuesdays for the month while we are gone from 5-6. DD seems to appreciate that this will be good for gd. I am looking forward to coming home to sit down to some else's cooking as well. Will let you know how it goes.

Guess that tree in the park will have to wait for me. I so appreciate the humor you all can send my way - and the tolerance and understanding. This is a hard way to be a mom, yet it what I have been given.

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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2012, 01:01:43 PM »

qcr,

I just noticed your post, today.  I am so sorry that you still have to worry about scary things that your dd has said to her child.  Too bad, she does not realize the damage she does.  If she could only stop and think about how it affects her dd.  Did you have a talk with her about being an adult, and she should not compare her behavior to her dd's?  Or, would it be a waste of time? 

Your situation, for lack of a better term, at the moment - a sucky one!   How sad that your dd does not understand how she affects her child.  Oh, if she could only get it...

I continue to pray that your dd will get her SSI.   Then, you will not have to worry about her being homeless.   And, NOT LIVING WITH YOU.  Also, that she will agree to the therapy that she needs.   Empathy

 
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2012, 01:55:23 PM »

qcr:

You certainly have more than enough on your plate.  I am amazed at all you do.  Your DD and gd are so lucky to have you. Your last line was so timely for me when you said you felt deserted by God.  On Friday night I said exactly the same thing to my husband.  My husband tells me to try to remember that there are others that have it worse.  I try very hard to do that but I am not sure what that means anymore.  Is this suppose to make us feel happy, kind of like being happy about having a terminal disease because others are dead. 

I hope you find some peace under the tree.

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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2012, 09:13:58 PM »

Oh, wow, I appeared to have missed quite a few posts. 

Thursday -  I am sorry that your sd is using your heart attack as an excuse. Your SO worried about her, when the focus should be on you, regaining your health.

Sending you some Get Well wishes for a speedy recovery.  A "Peaceful Recovery".   Man hug


 
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2012, 09:38:39 PM »

qcr:

You certainly have more than enough on your plate.  I am amazed at all you do.  Your DD and gd are so lucky to have you. Your last line was so timely for me when you said you felt deserted by God.  On Friday night I said exactly the same thing to my husband.  My husband tells me to try to remember that there are others that have it worse.  I try very hard to do that but I am not sure what that means anymore.  Is this suppose to make us feel happy, kind of like being happy about having a terminal disease because others are dead.  

I hope you find some peace under the tree.

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Griz - even though they mean well that is really so invalidating to be reminded of how others have it worse than us. Not really much help. And I find myself doing this TO MYSELF - often. GEEEZ. I am doing much better right now. Realize it is not so much God deserting me as my deserting Him. I have been taking 30-40 minutes almost daily to get quiet with myself, reading, and trying to remind myself to wait --- He is still there when I take the time to listen.

It seems to be working for me somehow. I am not nearly as reactive to DD - am amazed at my ability to just quietly restate the rule that she is pushing against - no discussion or defense - bring her back to the subject when she tries to divert me (usually something to do with gd or from some past hurt) - if she gets louder I walk around the corner of the room and back -- restate again. All without too much emotion, yet able to stand up for myself sincerely. Able to say outloud the benefit of what I am giving to her -- and have her seem to take it in.

Today it was about her getting the car back way past the 'driveway curfew' - someone else is driving her since her DUI charges end of Feb. And then to top that off, there were unapproved guests in our house the next morning -- and today was day #2. I had told her this morning they needed to be gone, and I know they heard this also. When they were still here, waiting to use the car when I got home from work with gd this afternoon I did the calm yet firm no-nonsense -- you can be here or not but now one else is staying here. This is not a motel. I just really had NO INTERNAL RESPONSE to her usual pokes. And I said straight to her without hesitation something like -'we are being very generous with allowing your use of the car. There is a lot more cost to owning a car than the gas you put into it. And we appreciate that you put gas into the car when using it with your friends'. She didn't even argue with me cool

Then I called the court to get the time for her DA pretrial conference on the DUI stuff for tomorrow -texted her the time and that I was available to drive her tomorrow. And guess what? She replied "thanks" and showed up ALONE for dinner at 5pm. I am in shock. She has been gone for most of the past 3 days - I did not need my car. She dropped the friends at the bus stop by our house and drove the 4 blocks home. And we sat and had a very nice conversation about gd's plans this week.

THe comment about the tree was actually a bit of sarcasm - it was referring to living homeless under a tree in the park after spending it all trying to rescue DD. Refers to my 'Worst nightmare fears' story - thankyou again to those that say it like it is to me. I am certainly not ready to go there yet grin

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