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« on: September 20, 2012, 05:27:15 AM »

my partner dBPD is totally lacking in responsibility when it comes to running a household. Does what she wants when she wants, and will not do anything as responsibility. ie will cook a great meal when she feels like it, at a time when she gets round to it. Or not cook at all if she suddenly doesnt feel like it. Will not do any mundane chores like clean up or tidy up, all rubbish is dropped and left where it is.

In this environment where one adult simply will not do chores, how can you encourage kids to help do chores, when they are not really helping, but are being asked to do it instead of the adult?
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2012, 01:06:09 PM »

Do the kids have any consequences if they do not do chores? Do they have responsibilities given to them? If not, they need them. Not only for your sake, but for their sakes. Kids feel safer when there is structure and responsibility, even if they push against it. They may not jump for joy if you change things up, so maybe you could have a family meeting and explain why things have to change and how they need to help. And then you need to be consistent. Prepare for their resistance, and know in advance what you will say when they push back!

Since your BPD is diagnosed, are you able to talk openly with the kids about the diagnosis and isolate some of the behaviors that go with it? My custody case is volatile and there is no way I can talk about my ex's mental health issues until I get a green light from my L, but if and when that happens, I fully intend to speak openly about why certain behaviors take place with N/BPDx, and why it is not okay to mimic that behavior.

I validate S11 whenever he complains about chores, but he still has to do them. I don't like doing them either! Sometimes I'll make the chores a little more interesting, but he's getting old enough now that he's ok just getting them done.

The hardest part is being a role model. Being a busy single mom, I find it hard myself to do everything, so I tell S11 we aren't aiming for perfect, we're just trying to keep the chaos in check. And if I find clothing on the bathroom and he has just gone downstairs, I don't pick it up. I call him up and he picks it up. He knows what the rules are and knows what my boundaries are -- including dirty bathrooms. If he messes up the downstairs bathroom that guests use, he can't use it for a week. And he cleans it himself.

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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2012, 10:08:04 PM »

Excellent response - I also was a single mum for 15 years and we had no choice but that the kids did chores. I didn't pay them to do them either - work was there because we all messed up the house and we all needed to co-operate to get it done. If I got help we had time and energy to do family stuff, if they didn't we didn't. They agreed it wasn't fair and each one of them was responsible for their own room and other jobs around the house - age appropriate. Not that they didn't complain at times - of course they did. But we had fun times too and it wasnt like I was lying on the sofa waiting for them to do the housework.

Eventually they will need to take care of a house themselves - may as well get good at it.
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2012, 09:13:49 PM »

 Hi!

I agree completely with what the others have already said.

I and BPDw are separated and share custody of S8 50/50. He doesn't have much responsibility at BPDw's. Sometimes I think it's a free-for-all over at her place. I have some chores for him to do each day and some more chores for the weekend. If he gets right to them, the daily chores only take him about 5 minutes, and the weekend chores take him about 20 minutes--it doesn't seem like much, but it helps me a lot!

I have S8 keep his bedroom and bathroom picked up each day, and fold clothes and empty the dishwasher whenever I do laundry or run the dishwasher. He does these very well. He's learned that it doesn't take him long when he get's to it. I also have him vacuum his room and other rooms every now and then. He's very self-sufficient with all of these.

Last year, when S was 7, I had him pick up his bedroom and bathroom as part of his morning routine, and I had him fold clothes on Saturday. As long as BPDw didn't interfere or distract him (she was so good at that) he did very well with it.

My answers to your question:

From my experience, yes, the kids will be willing to help out, even if BPD partner doesn't.

As for how to encourage them, they won't need that much encouragement once they get used to it. They will get used to it, as long as you are consistent about requiring it. Your children will learn that this is what you expect from them.

More tips: first explain to them why it needs to be done. You could also tell them that you need their help. Give them hugs as a reward (I need to do this more). I use a sticker chart. For every sticker that gets put on the chart, S8 gets a sticker he puts wherever he wants. He used to put them on him--then on me, but now he puts them on other things, like his door. You could add encouragement by doing something with them after they finished.

Also, don't expect perfection, at first, praise any effort, even if it is far from perfect. You will probably have to show them how and maybe even do most of the work (some of their encouragement will be getting to spend some good time with you). It may even take you more time at first. But, after a couple of times they will be able to do it by themselves (if the task is age-appropriate). If you want it done better next time, perhaps wait until next time and show them how to do it better at that time.  

Mostly, though, not much encouragement will be needed, once they get used to it and understand why it needs to be done. They will be getting a lot of self-encouragement through the self-pride they will get by taking care of themselves and their things and through helping out as part of the family. They will see themselves as part of the "team."

If they ask about your BPD partner not doing things, I suggest not really defending BPD partner, but not putting them down either: Instead, just say something neutral like "I don't know."
  
In my view, it is important that your teach your children to do chores is important to their emotional growth. They need to learn that doing chores is a necessary part of life--and not something that they should be paid to do, or even something that they should be excessively (sp?) be praised for (eventually, they need to learn to praise themselves).

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