Home page of BPDFamily.com, online relationship supportMember registration here
April 20, 2024, 02:53:22 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Board Admins: Kells76, Once Removed, Turkish
Senior Ambassadors: Cat Familiar, EyesUp, SinisterComplex
  Help!   Boards   Please Donate Login to Post New?--Click here to register  
bing
Books members most read
105
The High
Conflict Couple
Loving Someone with
Borderline Personality Disorder
Loving the
Self-Absorbed
Borderline Personality
Disorder Demystified

Pages: 1 [2]  All   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Enmeshment. Can we detach and stay married?  (Read 1139 times)
ziniztar
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Ex-romantic partner
Relationship status: I chose to end the r/s end of October 2014. He cheated and pushed every button he could to push me away until I had to leave.
Posts: 599



WWW
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2014, 06:18:53 AM »

She now has information about what it is. I've always admired her for the ability to succeed at anything, but she needs to choose what it is. I think she has chosen to change BPD. Time will tell.

i recognize this. My dBPDbf went to therapy by himself. A girlfriend pointed out he could have had ADHD, that was all. He went there. He accepted the BPD diagnosis after 6 months of ADHD training. He started weekly therapy. He has tried a new form of therapy for a few months. He is trying a new psycho-therapist and has invited his old T to join that first meeting.

I admire his desire to change, even though he can be extreme hopeless sometimes.
Logged
PLEASE - NO RUN MESSAGES
This is a high level discussion board for solving ongoing, day-to-day relationship conflicts. Members may appear frustrated but they are here for constructive solutions to problems. This is not a place for relationship "stay" or "leave" discussions. Please read the specific guidelines for this group.

Moselle
********
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Ex-romantic partner
Relationship status: Divorced
Posts: 1899


Every day is a gift. Live it fully


« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2014, 08:22:10 AM »

I know enmeshment is a choice of the non.

I have just realised that I feel in sympathy with her. When she's dysregulated I feel the pain too. Even 1500km away. It's an anxious feeling, in tandem with her.

I wish I didn't, but I do, and I'm not sure how I can manage/change that .

I guess it's a fear of what comes next, the hatred, the shouting, the invalidation. I've become accustomed to it
Logged

Grey Kitty
********
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Ex-romantic partner
Relationship status: Separated
Posts: 7182



« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2014, 12:03:17 AM »

At the beginning there was discussion about how detachment is part of fixing you, but cannot fix the marriage or the partner.

I'd add that while detachment will not fix the r/s, enmeshment nearly rules out a healthy r/s.

When she's dysregulated I feel the pain too.

You notice her pain. With dysregulation, it is obvious!

What happens in you next?

Feeling the pain like it is yours? -- Enmeshment

Fearing what will come at you next? -- Also Enmeshment

Not being able to feel anything, or perhaps relief at avoiding it? -- Indifference, perhaps? Detachment, but without the love?

Feeling sorry for her? -- Pity

Lovingly caring that she is hurting? -- Compassion

It is a learning/growing process for you to work through (I don't know that you will go through them all, or in any particular order). I hope you make it to the point of feeling compassion for her. Whatever happens to your marriage.
Logged
waverider
Retired Staff
*
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
What is your sexual orientation: Straight
Who in your life has "personality" issues: Romantic partner
Relationship status: married 8 yrs, together 16yrs
Posts: 7405


If YOU don't change, things will stay the same


« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2014, 04:47:19 AM »

Keep in mind detaching does not mean distancing or isolating, simple keeping a level of independent control.

You need a certain level of detachment to support someone else, otherwise you are just dragged into the same hole with them
Logged

  Reality is shared and open to debate, feelings are individual and real
Can You Help Us Stay on the Air in 2024?

Pages: 1 [2]  All   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Our 2023 Financial Sponsors
We are all appreciative of the members who provide the funding to keep BPDFamily on the air.
12years
alterK
AskingWhy
At Bay
Cat Familiar
CoherentMoose
drained1996
EZEarache
Flora and Fauna
ForeverDad
Gemsforeyes
Goldcrest
Harri
healthfreedom4s
hope2727
khibomsis
Lemon Squeezy
Memorial Donation (4)
Methos
Methuen
Mommydoc
Mutt
P.F.Change
Penumbra66
Red22
Rev
SamwizeGamgee
Skip
Swimmy55
Tartan Pants
Turkish
whirlpoollife



Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2006-2020, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!