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« on: March 21, 2007, 09:09:16 AM »

Court was yesterday.  My step-son since Thanksgiving had been begging to not be forced to visit with his BPD-momster anymore.  Things got really bad, he refused to talk to her even on the phone, but we continued to follow the order and send him for visits.  DH filed a modification, and our hearing was yesterday.  We didn't expect any testimony; it was supposed to be the judge just reading all of the written requests, affidavits etc.  But she wanted testimony.

DH was on the stand for over an hour, and he even broke down and cried.  He explained why he is concerned - the things that step-son is saying, are exactly what DH experienced in the marriage.  At one point, he mentioned BP's diagnosis - and BP's attorney objected due to "no foundation".  SO HE WAS ALLOWED TO LAY THE FOUNDATION!  He was allowed to talk about the diagnosis, what he endured in the marriage, the physical abuse by her - EVERYTHING!  BP's attorney didn't even acknowledge it at all.  He got everything out that he was hoping to say plus more.  Her attorney was all over the place, picking at dumb things, and every time she was proven wrong.  Obviously she believed every lie BP told her and she was just spitting it back out.

BP got on the stand, and even her attorney was getting frustrated, asking her to "just answer the question, yes or no, and hurry up, we don't have much time..."  Basically, she blamed everything on me, accused me of controlling everything, and not allowing step-son to have a relationship with her.  Our attorney asked her 2 questions: What meds are you taking?  She wouldn't really answer other than a very mild antidepressant for a sleep problem.  And she asked when the last time she worked was (She claims to be gainfully employed as a substitute teacher).  She couldn't remember the last day she worked!  The attorney then asked her how many days she worked in Feb.  She couldn't answer.  Then she eventually said that she works between one and 10 days per month.  Yeah, that's gainfully employed.  Haha.

Then, the judge wanted to see step-son in chambers.  Stupidly, BP's attorney objected, and said he would have to testify in open court.  So, bravely, he agreed.  He explained how he felt, and that he has tried for months to explain it to his mother, but she won't listen.  BP's big argument also was that step-son is disrespectful.  But step-son explained to the judge, that to BP, being disrespectful is when he doesn't agree with her, or he won't pretend everything is perfect.  BP's attorney also pulled out pictures of visits with his mother, where he was smiling, and tried to call him on it "It looks here like you were having a good time."  Step-son told her somethig like, I can enjoy activities when I am there.  It doesn't mean everything is fine and I am happy.   I wasn't in the court room, as the judge cleared it of spectators for his testimony.  These are things that he told me afterwards on his own.

Anyway, the judge tore BP a new one.  She told BP that clearly, SS was very honest and believable on the stand and she doesn't believe anyone is coercing him.  He has tried to have a relationship with her, and she won't listen to his concerns.  She doesn't care about her son.  She just wants to blame me for everything, and she sees no evidence of that.  She had 7 years to cultivate a relationship and she hasn't done it.  She also told her she obviously has some serious issues she needs to deal with.  She also mentioned to BP that she didn't even bother to get in touch with step-son's counselor.  If she had been concerned with his behavior and his "disrespectfulness", she would have contacted her right away.  BP so smartly yelled to the judge "I emailed her a letter last week!"  The judge laughed at her, and reemed her for that.  HE"S BEEN IN COUNSELING FOR 10 MONTHS!

The judge didn't even know what to do, and turned to our attorney and asked "What would you have me do?"  Our attorney asked that all visitation be suspended until a psych eval is done. 

The judge at first said that at least she can trust that BP's parents and her sister are okay for step-son to visit.  But then, BP's father started yelling at the judge in the courtroom, and was told several times to be quiet.  The judge told him if he said one more thing, he'd be held in contempt of court and arrested.  THEN the judge changed her mind and said now, she can't even trust her PARENTS!  She told the father that she understands what is going on in the family, and they are all dancing around the issues.  BP tried to shout out several times and the judge yelled at her too, telling her she had her chance, and it is not her time to talk, then told her that she is not allowed to be alone with step-son until further notice!

So bottomline right now is this:

She agreed to continue visitation - IF BP's sister will agree to supervise at all times.  She wasn't at court, but BP's attorney assured the judge she will agree - I'm not so sure...

If the sister cannot supervise, then IF step-son requests to visit his grandparents, then they can supervise BUT it must be asked for by step-son and only if he really wants to see them.

If he doesn't want to see grandparents, and the sister cannot supervise, HE DOESN"T HAVE TO GO ON THE VISIT!

Also, SHE HAS TO RELEASE ALL OF HER PSYCH AND MEDICAL RECORDS Directly to the judge.  She will read over everything, and decide if a psych eval sould be done.

We are in shock.  And I am so happy for DH that he feels vindicated.  This is the first time anyone has listened to his concerns for her mental health.  THE JUDGE BELIEVED HIM!  BP has been hiding her records and diasgnosis for 14 years, and now it is all going to come out!





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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2007, 09:20:06 AM »

Congratulations! It's wonderful news -- but sad you all had to go through it.

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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2007, 09:28:00 AM »

Yeah!  I am so happy for you!  Did the stepson have to testify in front of BPmom? How old is he, by chance?

I am very happy that there is goodness in the world. You are a coolmom, indeed.

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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2007, 09:30:20 AM »

Coolmom

I was jumping up and down when I read this. I can only imagine how vindicated you must feel, BUT the control of his own life that SS has is fantastic.  I could almost hug that judge.

My uBPDxh also made a scene in the court room and got a glare to make you cringe from the judge.  When he(the judge) spoke of taking the high road and being what these kids need and congratulated us on putting them first he looked right at me, like he was saying I know what you are about and good job mom.  It felt great and then it washes over you in waves that you are done, its over and you have what you want and need for the best of the children  In fact the kids win.

This is just the best news and such an inspiration to others in this boat.  I know the long road you have travelled Cool and you and DH and SS deserve now some peace and calm

Thank you so much for sharing, I really needed a piece of good news hope and positive today.

Awesome CONGRATULATIONS

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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2007, 09:35:52 AM »

Thanks guys!  We are sooooo happy.  Step-son is 12 1/2 and yes, he had to testify right in front of his BP-mother, since HER attorney wouldn't agree to chambers.  Very stupid move.

I wish I could have been in that court room to hear it all for myself.  But, since Step-son wasn't allowed in the court room except for when he testified, I was two floors down in the cafe with him until they took a break, and DH and our atty came down to ask SS if he would agree to testify.  I walked up with him, and sat in the court room, but then the judge cleared it.  So I got everything second hand.  But hey I'm still happy!  DH is in shock.  Really.  Our attorney is WELL worth the money.  She was awesome! 

If you ever need a family law atty in Wake County NC, let me know!
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2007, 09:49:20 AM »

Coolmom - This is just sooooo awesome! I have a lump in my throat just reading this, knowing that finally, someone is listening to the child's needs! Woo-HOO!

Congratulations! Good job for your attorney and the judge for listening and doing what is right. And good job to you and your DH for protecting your SS. I'm so glad that your SS apparently didn't get completely emeshed with his crazy mom and that you and your DH have provided stability and normalcy to such a degree that your SS "gets it."

Thank you for sharing this! It's the stories like this that give us hope.

Congratulations!
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2007, 09:55:41 AM »

Great News!  There is justice, at least in N.Carolina!
Your SS sounds like one smart, brave little guy; he is going to be ok.

We all need to hear the good stories.  Keeps hope alive and sometimes that is all we have.

Congratulations!
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2007, 10:21:39 AM »

WOOT!  grin
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2007, 10:31:27 AM »

Awesome! Its good to see the system work right every so often.

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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2007, 12:06:51 PM »

I am entirely and positively thrilled for you, your DH, and your SS.  What a brave boy he is! 

I can't help but wonder why the judge allowed visitation after all she heard, saw, and believed.  I know that they have to tread carefully with parents rights but I do get tired with all the leeway they get. 

I will continue to root you and your family on and watch for updates!
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2007, 01:55:53 PM »

Coolmom,

This is incredible news!  To finally see justice served like that, I don't know if I'd even have the words to describe that euphoria!  You all must be so excited and releived!  I'm raising an imaginary toast to you & yours!  Great job & congrats! May you all sleep soundly & stress-free tonight!  grin

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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2007, 01:56:08 PM »

YYYYEEEAAAAAA!   This is terrific news!  Score one for for the good guys!

I wish SS didn't have to testify in open court but it seems he held up okay.  So much pressure on a kid.  Probably didn't do any favors for the dark side that her attorney wouldn't allow him to testify in chambers.  Hopefully that is the last time it ever happens.

This has got to be a ton of weight off your collective minds and hearts.  Time to do just a bit of happy dancin' yea!


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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2007, 02:07:07 PM »

  Hallelujeh, finally a judge that see's the light.   More importantly a judge that took the time to sit and listen... Good on you ! grin
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2007, 02:22:26 PM »

Coolmom,

This is great news!  I'm so happy your stepson was heard by the decision-makers!  He's a brave young man...

Happy dancing for you and yours!

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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2007, 06:01:25 PM »

YEEEEAAAAAAH FLIPPIN-HOOOOOOOOO!

I smell the end of an ugly era for your family!  May there be fresh air and happy hearts in your lives from now on! 

Hopefully she'll get the hint that she can't "win" and move on.  Maybe she'll find other people to stir her dramas up with.  Do they ever just give up?  :P Hopefully she will. 

Sending good vibes your way  8)


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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2007, 06:13:57 PM »

I know I already posted here, Coolmom, but I am so dang happy for you that I could just pee my pants!

Your son  is a brave kid.  What he did took real guts.  And you have real guts, too.  You really stepped up to the plate for your boy.  It's a shame that the judge didn't have the brains to speak with the boy in chambers. 

Cool mom, you ARE the mom!

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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2007, 07:02:43 PM »

Just throwing my hat into the "big congrats!" ring. Always happy to hear good things! Very happy for your family!
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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2007, 08:11:59 PM »

Oh, I am so happy for you.

You and your husband are wonderful examples to me.

Sometimes there is justice. Congratulations.

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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2007, 09:58:17 PM »

WAY TO GO!

I am so completely thrilled for you coolmom and what a great victory for you all.

How is your stepson doing?  Is he feeling okay about it?  I am so very proud of him and look at how far he has come.

You and DH are to be congratulated.  You have done a fabulous job.  I remember when you first came here, how very hard it was.

Enjoy this immense victory and thank you so much for sharing it with us.

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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2007, 10:36:23 PM »

YIPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! smiley grin smiley grin smiley grin smiley grin smiley grin smiley grin

Such wonderful news.  I know how nerve wracking those court appearances can be, but you did it!  You won!  Like several posters have mentioned...it is great to hear that we can win.  My heart smiles for you and your happiness right now.

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