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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2009, 11:33:05 AM »

your doing fine muggs...

the job...whats going to happen with that?
will it now have 8 hour day? or 24 hour days?
did she mention.. how much she has made so far?

well one thing at time.. last night was rough im sure...but for you... you are the man.!

she now is well aware... she needs to make some drastic changes...
now watch for them...

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She admitted that she was leaving work and going to the older lady that had offered to let her stay there just because she didn't want to come home. SO many nights she got off at like 11pm and just went there to sleep and hang out and drink wine with this older lady. I told her that was unacceptable. She swears that from now on, she will be at home in the house if she is off work. She also admitted that she is not making as much as she said she was. She is making just over min. wage, but I guess the men in the house pool their money together and "tip" her extra to do things for them, like their laundry and cook dinner etc. She says her actual schedule should only be 3 nights and one day a week no more than 8 hours each. So every gut instinct I (and you guys) had was absolutely correct, she was hiding and lying about it, staying away and trying to justify it by "how bad I was". I had been painted black for a few weeks so she didn't feel I deserved to know what she was really doing.

She is still trying to get a "real" job at a local hospital during normal daytime hours in the accounting dept (irony much?) and says they want her to come back for a second interview tomorrow so it's looking good. But she has grown "attached" to some of the kids at the place she currently works (some really sad cases so I understand) and says even if she gets this new job she will want to maintain contact with the kids at the current place. I told her that is fine as long as she is HONEST about the entire thing.

Disheartened=> If you read around the site you will see that for the most part, the BPD will NEVER admit or realize they have anything "wrong with them". It all comes down to a "game" with you and the therapist on one side, and the BPD on teh other. You are working on in a way "tricking" the BPD to adjust how they deal with their emotional urges to allow you to withstand the swings, while you and the therapist know what is REALLY going on and are working on specific ways to deal WITH it. I think my situation is VERY rare in that my wife actually admitted that she thinks she MAY have BPD after reading some things about it online after our last big meltdown when I told her (I broke the rules) that there was something wrong with her, I compared it to ADD and Depression though, since she has been treated for depression for years, and both my son and I have serious ADHD, it took some of the fear and stigma off looking at the issue. She has since swung back to refusing to acknowledge that there is anything wrong with her but I know, she knows, whether she will admit it or not.
I have demanded that she go to solo therapy, and we will resume, and continue couples therapy, it does seem to help, and I know the solo session I had helped me A LOT because I knew I didn't have to "tread lightly" because she was sitting next to me.
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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2009, 11:49:04 AM »

muggs... she needs to get reattached to her own kid...

forget strangers kids...

keep on standing up...
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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2009, 12:23:47 PM »

muggs... she needs to get reattached to her own kid...

forget strangers kids...

keep on standing up...

I fully agree, I told her that she needs to put in some work with her son or things are going to get bad soon.

She made a comment yesterday amid her blubbering about "You have turned him against me". I told her I have done no such thing, he is 15 and has his own opinions. I pointed out how she would have felt at 15 looking at this same situation, considering that was only like 1-2 years before we got together, that was kind of a startling way for her to consider it. She was like, "wow, ya I would have told her to take a *ucking hike". I have only told him that "Mom is having some issues inside her own head, she loves you and is still your mom but isn't happy or healthy right now.
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« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2009, 12:29:04 PM »

seems like she has some explainng to do all around...

she needs to get to a therapist...
since she currently has acess to the mental healthcare system...she has to...she works at a recovery place
maybe she can get some help for herself.. while she is working there...
there has to be psychs coming and going...

what do you think.?
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« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2009, 12:41:12 PM »

seems like she has some explainng to do all around...

she needs to get to a therapist...
since she currently has to the mental healthcare system...she has to...she works at a recovery place
maybe she can get some help for herself.. while she is working there...
there has to be psychs coming and going...

what do you think.?

I have suggested the very same thing, although most of the counselors she deals with are very "12 Step" NA/AA people, not so much personality disorder etc.

I have found her a local therapist that seems to specialize in PDs and anxiety, bi polar etc that I am strongly encouraging her to go see. I told her I expect her to call this lady and go to the 6 free sessions my EAP provides, if after 6 she doesn't like her we can find a diff therapist but either way, if she is in the home, she is going.


It was kind of surreal, but I looked at this woman and told her very directly, I KNOW you, I KNOW what I am dealing with and how to make this work but you need to want to work also so it's all up to you.
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« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2009, 12:53:44 PM »

excellent...

you came a long way in two weeks...

so what is see is you are providing the avenues...and she now need to get to places...

well at this point...

maybe its time to just observe her... and see what she does...you have thrown out the life vest , see if she puts it on..

hows your chest feel.. now that the wieght isnt sitting on it...

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« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2009, 01:09:59 PM »



hows your chest feel.. now that the wieght isnt sitting on it...


I feel *ucking LIBERATED, I have lived in a constant cringe, afraid to stand up for myself for YEARS. Her pushing me so far has helped me realize that I deserve better than her juvenile behavior, so SHE needs to work to prove that SHE deserves all MY efforts and love.
You guys on this site have helped me more than I can explain.
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« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2009, 01:25:07 PM »



hows your chest feel.. now that the wieght isnt sitting on it...


I feel *ucking LIBERATED, I have lived in a constant cringe, afraid to stand up for myself for YEARS. Her pushing me so far has helped me realize that I deserve better than her juvenile behavior, so SHE needs to work to prove that SHE deserves all MY efforts and love.
You guys on this site have helped me more than I can explain.

glad to hear that..welcome to the dark side Devilish
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