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12-2-10

Family Therapy Session #22

we started the session w/BPDd-13 telling me that one of her project horses, mijo, is now under saddle and he didn't seem to even mind being sat upon.  i asked her if she had been working w/him a great deal and she said "no, not really".  i told her that the time in between training sessions is important too.  that is when mijo processes information and has the option to accept or rebel his previous lessons. her therapist jumped in and said "just like teens do".  i replied "just like we all do" and we all had a good chuckle.

the therapist wanted to talk about honesty.  my BPDd-13 told me she had not been completely honest with us about smoking marijuana.  she said she never did that and only told us she did because "i thought you suspected me of it and because I wanted you to trust me I told you that I did".  i asked her if she thought that made sense and she said "no..not really".  i told her that I knew she had past opportunities to experiment w/marijuana and because she had a pattern of making poor choices for herself that it was a possibility.  i also told her that I am glad she did not have the mountains of drug addiction or alcohol addiction to climb as well as the mountain of her behaviors.  i asked her how close to the mountain top she believes she is.  she didn't seem to understand the analogy so her therapist stepped in and said "we have been working on that.  mom is referring to what we call reaching goals."

the therapist then asked my BPDd-13 to list her goals and where on a scale of 1-10 she believes she is with that goal.

relationship w/mom and dad               8

willingness to communicate feelings    7.5

controlling emotions                          9

feeling sad                                       10

school                                              3

controlling anger                                7

boundaries for self                             6

boundaries w/horses                          8

respect from horses                           9

the therapist :  "all of these goals need to be between 8 and 10 before you are ready to graduate and return home.  even though school is a 3 it is still much progress because you started at a -10.  lol  BPDd-13 has identified writing as part of the reason she so dislikes school so we are looking at other options for her.  perhaps the school will allow her to use a computer to do much of her written work.  are there any goals you can think of mom and dad to add to the list?"

me:  self motivation

BPDd-13:  i would say that is at about a 5 right now.

dh:  patience

BPDd-13:  i guess about a 6

t:  how about honesty.  

BPDd-13:  i would give myself a 7

dh:  taking no for an answer and trying to see the situation from a parents perspective.  what if you were the parent and I asked you if I could go to tina's house for a birthday party and that tina's mom was going to take us to the movies and then back to her house by 10. what would you say (at this point I am thinking what is tina's moms' name and phone number)?

BPDd-13:  i would ask for tina's moms' number so I could call her and talk to her myself.

me:  you sound like me BPDd-13.

everyone laughs again.

dh:  ok so if I say "i'm going to a party w/some friends" what would you say?

BPDd-13:  NO!

everyone laughs again.

t:  so why did you say no?  

BPDd-13:  because I don't know enough facts or who is going to be supervising the party.

t:  so anytime you want to put yourself in your parents shoes think about whether or not you would let your little friend m do what you are asking to do.

BPDd-13:  yeah.

t:  so, is everyone ready for the home visit?

BPDd-13:  Yes!

dh/i:  Yes!

t:  BPDd-13 will be bringing home a rough draft of the home contract.  while she is at home this month I want you all to work on it and type it up.  when BPDd-13 returns to falcon ridge we will make any needed adjustments.  the contract is to be reviewed once she graduates and is home every 3 months.  some things will most likely be relaxed or eliminated depending on how she is doing.  if she is not doing well some things may need to be put back in the contract.  the hope is that eventually there will be no need for the contract.  at my house, with my teens, all the rules on the refrigerator have been replaced with just one rule.  do you know what that rule is BPDd-13?

BPDd-13:  give respect always and to everyone.

t:  right!

dh:  i have an important business call coming in so I must go now.

t:  BPDd-13 has filled out a lot of the contract already on her own.  is there anything you want to talk about that needs to be in the contract mom?

me:  i need to tell BPDd-13 that there is a problem with her iphone.  the cell company now required all iphones to have internet connection and charges $30/month.  it is no longer an option to have internet on iphones.  it is a requirement so BPDd-13 will not be getting her iphone back.  

BPDd-13:  no!  i love my iphone. that's not fair.  can we switch to another cell company?

me:  we are under legal contract with the cell company and cannot switch.  we will look at getting  you another phone.

t:  do you see that this is not something mom and dad can have any control over?

BPDd-13:  i want my iphone though.

t:  i know that you are disappointed.  can you get this into perspective?

me:  i know it really stinks when things are forced upon you and your choices are taken away.  i hope that with time you can get  your perspective and see that in the larger scheme of life this incident is small.

BPDd-13:  i know...i'm just not happy about it.

me:  me neither.

t:  since we are talking about perspective lets take a quick look at priorities again.

BPDd-13:  self, family, happiness, fairness, responsibilities, friends, church.

me:   there seems to be some changes in your list.  tell me what responsibilities include.

BPDd-13:  school, sports, Positive Peer Culture, therapy

me:  so sports and Positive Peer Culture group are things you want to do right?

BPDd-13:  yeah.

me:  so are you saying that fun things come w/responsibility too?

BPDd-13:  yes sometimes they do.

me:  so our responsibilities add enrichment to our lives and help us grow as people and are good for us.  would you agree?

BPDd-13:  yes.

me:  so school is good for you right?

BPDd-13:  whoa!  that's going to far!

we all laugh

t:  the negative mindset about school makes it much harder to achieve success there BPDd-13.  mom, we have been looking at some of the positives about school.  BPDd-13 says she has a great deal of trouble focusing and concentrating at school so it may be necessary to enlist the schools help in addressing these issues.

me:  BPDd-13 you have worked so hard and accomplished so much.  when you come home we want you to be successful.  we want to help you set yourself up for success.  dad and I have talked about a few things and would like for you to think about changing your cell phone number as well as your email address.

BPDd-13:  but my phone number is so easy to remember.

me:  we can get you another number that is easy to remember.

t:  who has your old cell #?

BPDd-13:  all my old friends.

t:  were they all good influences?

BPDd-13: no

t:  so the only way for mom and dad to know that they aren't calling you is if they don't have your phone number.

me:  i would also like for you to think about removing movies, books, and music from your room that may not promote a positive self image.

BPDd-13:  does that mean I can't have my scary movies?

me:  i am asking you to give it some thought whether or not these things set you up for success or influence you negatively.

BPDd-13:  you don't believe in me.

t:  that is not what mom said.

BPDd-13:  that is what she means.

t:  you are in  your emotional mind and need to return to your Wise Mind. can you do that?  pause...i think we need to table this for now.

BPDd-13 can you tell your mom good bye now?

BPDd-13:  by mom I love you.

me:  by sweety I love you too and I am proud of you for all that you have accomplished, I believe in you very very much.  

so what started well did not end well.  this is just the tip of the iceberg concerning the home contract...we haven't even talked about monitored computer access, net nanny, parental controls on the tv, whether or not she will have xbox live again or when, etc...

this am husband and I talked about when to bring her home...it seems like she has already been gone a year.  his concern is $ as it pertains to the well being of the family...i know this is a factor but for me it is not the determining factor.  for me it is the  ?  will she be ready at the end of month 8?  will she be able to practice and sustain all of her tools at home?  in the end we decided to leave this up to the Lord and listen for His answer of guidance.

thanks for staying with me on this journey.

lbjnltx

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an open mediated dialogue like this would be heaven for me to have with my daughter!

I am a high school teacher. Does your daughter have an IEP at school? That could quarantee some modification considerations such as being allowed to use a computer for all written work.

I am keeping an close eye on your "journey".

Reading this makes me realizes how much ground I don't have. I started to say lost, but never had any to start with. I would give my eye teeth to have this kind of therapy with my D24. I have to say my immediate thought there at the last when your D said that you didn't believe in her was "where did that come from?"  You're going along well, even laughing..then out of the blue, here it comes. I'm not implying your D hasn't made progress..I can see that she's come SUCH a long way. I was just caught off guard by her statement. I imagine your T will address that at the next session.

You asked in your last thread if I'd received my book yet. No. Actually, I don't know as I've been too sick to get to the post office and DH hasn't been getting home until WAY after they lock the doors. Hopefully this will pass soon and I can get up there and see if it's come in yet.

lbj,

I still see this as a positive session for the most part.  What type of scary movies is she talking about?  What is net nanny? 

So, were you planning on returning home, tentatively after the 8th month?  Too bad there is not some type of scholarship for children who are progressing as your dd is.  And, what type of school will she be transferring to, or is that undecided, yet? 

Thanks again for sharing.

peaceplease

thank you for reading and the inquiries.


no she does not.  she did not qualify for one as she had minimal problems at school  until the last 3 months of her 7th grade year...5 days after school was out she went to the residential treatment center.


from the dark mind of a pwBPD. :'(


i imagine the therapist addressed it as soon as I hung up the phone. and yes, we will discuss this during our next session.


she has the complete collection of "amityville horror" movies, and a few other various movies.  her favorite animated movies are "corpse bride" and "9"... dark!


an internet monitoring device that can block/report unacceptable activity according to the security standard you set.


we originally planned for 9 months...finances may dictate that we have to cut it to 8 months or maybe 8.5 if falcon ridge will allow her to stay less than a full month...they price it by the day so they probably would ok that.  we must give a 30 day written notice of withdrawal from the program according to our contract.


originally I was told that there was scholarship money available.  we requested 2 months...$14k...we got about $635...they applied most of it to the pdoc bill as he is out of network so his fees were not paid by our insurance.  the rest went towards the next months tuition...about 225.00.  we are grateful for whatever we can get of course.  we could borrow $ but my husband won't do it.  he has already spent all of our savings...it is just too much for him as he will be 63 in january...with no retirement plan/savings. ;p


prior to 6,7th grade in public school she was in a private school...this is where all our problems started...the private school 4th grade...when she comes home she will not return to the same public school.  she will go to another public school...very small...in another little town.  so small that elementary--high school share common areas of the building...7 man football, 1A school.  they are very attentive to helping kids w/special needs as this is where her little friend m from next door as well as m's big sister are now going to school...built in friends!

My son goes to one of those small schools. All grades in one building, though they try to make it look separate. One classroom per grade. I know that there are children with special needs, and they bend over backwards to help them. I know the state requires them to do so, I just think it being a smaller school makes it easier to implement the requirements. The teachers are more apt to go the extra mile, as well. Our little school receives money from the railroad, as well as an electrical plant. We're one of the lucky rural schools that doesn't hurt for money.

I don't mean to refer to your D as special needs..I just didn't know any other way to put it. My brain isn't functioning so well. I'm glad to hear that she'll have built in friends! I notice that in the high school here, the girls are all really close. There are so few of them, so they HAVE to bond together, lol!

i don't recall that you did.  anyway...i know what you mean.

aok!

lbj - just checking - you and your family are in my thoughts daily even as I am taking a break from this board (well except today :)). Ahhh - the contract and resistance to change, letting go of what was there before to accept a new direction in the same physical space. This has got to be hard for each of you. I understand the fears of losing so much that has been gained - so I know you have the faith needed to let go and trust your higher power - GOD - to guide you.

There was so much good in the session - let the home visit help guide you on things with this contract. If any mom can keep the skills within easy reach, it is you and dh. Now for d14 to access that Wise Mind that she now owns.

Ill keep you all in my prayers. When does she come? Can you pm me if it is this week as I may not be back until next weekend.

qcr       |iiii

thank you for the kind words and vote of confidence qcarol,

we go up to utah on the 19th ... we start the family therapy "weekend" on the 20 at 8am and will finish on the 21st at 5 pm.  we will stay in utah that nite and all fly home together on the 22nd.  BPDd-13 will be home until she flies out on the 29th to return to the program.

lbjnltx

ps  I was looking for my BPDd-13's iphone in her room yesterday and found a book I had bought her when she was 5.  it is called "his little princess...treasured letters from your King"...i am wishing it to your gd5 for Christmas...it is inscribed "hit_, remember God loves you! mommy

greetings fellow journiers...is that a word? lol

our Positive Peer Culture therapist, nali, was a no show on tuesday...had to do a student transport...forgot we were scheduled...even after BPDd-13 reminded him that we were to have therapist session...got an email from him tues. nite...can  we reschedule for thursday at 10?  emailed him back yes...send quiz questions for ch. 2...no reply...

at 9:30...case manager calls...Positive Peer Culture therapist home sick ... will call when he can to reschedule...she tells me BPDd-13 is doing well...loves equine and individual therapy...has lots to work on still...she is an awesome kid.  I reply ... I think so too.  case manager tells me BPDd-13 has awesome parents...what a complement.

got a phone call yesterday from the clinical director/equine therapist...asking to meet w/dh and I during the family therapy weekend to discuss how to keep BPDd-13 until graduation in march...she says they are willing to give us a discounted rate for the last 2 months or let us pay out over time ... appreciates that we were upfront from the beginning that funds were limited and insurance won't pay...another blessing from our faithful Father...dh and I have been praying for Gods leadership in this matter and removing ourselves from the concern, fear and worry that BPDd-13 would not be ready to come home when the $ ran out...equine therapist says she believes BPDd-13 will be ready when graduation comes about in march...this is also when gary and joy lundberg...authors of "i don't have to make everything all better" will be at falcon ridge for a seminar...i am so thankful for them and their immense help in getting me out of the last bit of FOG that lingered in my mind.

our family therapy session is scheduled for tomorrow as lorneta is in CA today...

lbjnltx

an awesome kid.  I reply ... I think so too.  case manager tells me BPDd-13 has awesome parents...what a complement.



Of course, she has awesome parents! |iiii

You have been awesome with all the sharing on this site.  You always seem to have some great feedback. 

Looking forward to reading about the next session.

peaceplease

dear lbj,

Such great progress.  It is always so good to hear what your D has been doing and the changes she has been making at Falcon Ridge.  It's truly awesome!

When reading the part with the conversation with the T and school work you mentioned that your D had difficulty with writing.  My S did too and we ended up purchasing software that allowed him to speak into a mic on the computer which typed his words.  For him it was both a physical concern as well as an organizational concern.  He could verbalize what he wanted to put down, but had great difficulty in getting on paper with both pen and keyboard.  It took some time to get used to but did end up being a good help for him during the period he remained in school.  I don't know if this would apply to your D's situation, but thought I would mention in case.

The program is called Dragon Naturally Speaking by Nuance and sells for around $100 or so.

Continued blessing to you and your family as we wait for the Light of the World.   

pennifree 

dear pennifree,

thanks for the info on the computer program...it may come in handy in the future.

may all your beautiful dreams come true!



lbjnltx

Family T session #23                                12-10-10


the call started with me asking my BPDd-13 how she is doing today...her reply "ok".  I could tell by he voice something was up...

T:  not really ok.  do you want to tell mom what is wrong?

BPDd-13:  i'm really sad...i cried all day yesterday.  mijo is going back to his owner.  I just found out yesterday.

me:  i'm sorry you are so sad.  it is hard when animals and people leave our lives.  not all relationships are meant to last forever. people and animals come and go from our lives and we can take the good lessons from them and keep the memories.

BPDd-13:  i'm going to miss him so much.

T: can we talk today about the home visit at Christmas ?

me:  I would like to ask BPDd-13 what she would like to have for a Christmas gift...

BPDd-13:  the new halo game.

me:  those games are kind of violent right?

BPDd-13:  no, there's no blood or anything.

me: they are based on military conflict...that is violent right?  I am going to ask  you to think about whether things like that affect you in a negative or positive way.

BPDd-13:  they are part of me.  it's not fair that  you are trying to take them away.  they are a stress reliever for me.

T:  can you think of a more appropriate stress reliever?

BPDd-13:  no.  they are part of who I am.

T:  they may be things you do.  that does not make them part of who you are.

me:  I am asking you to be mindful and give some thought to whether your choices are having positive or negative influences on you.

BPDd-13:  I am basing this on past experience mom, you put me on a guilt trip sometimes and you are putting me on a guilt trip now.  I am afraid you will make me stay here if I don't do what you want me to do.

me: how long you stay at falcon ridge will be a treatment team decision.  you will only stay there as long as they think you need to be there so I don't want you to worry about that.   I asked you to think about your choices.  I want you to be mindful of what is good for you.  I do not want to control you.  you are getting older and growing up and that means you need to be more in control of yourself.  when you have the privilege of making your own choices you also have to own the consequences.  I want you to control yourself as that is the highest level of excellence. 

T:  mom is not putting you on a guilt trip.

BPDd-13:  it feels like she is.

me:  sometimes feelings are not based on what someone else said or did.  sometimes they come from within you and your thinking.

T:  you are projecting onto mom.  it is your own conscience that is causing you to feel the guilt and you need to own that.

BPDd-13:  there is nothing to own.

T:  this is a thinking error.  I know you are really sad today.  do you need to just cry? 

BPDd-13:   :'(

me:  I wish I was there to hug you and hold you.  I am so sorry you are hurting so much.

T:  we will discuss the thinking errors another time.

me:  do you think it would have helped if you had known that mijo was only going to be there a short time?

BPDd-13:  yeah.

T:  would you have bonded with him and have good memories if you had known he was only here temporarily?

BPDd-13:  no... :'(  it isn't worth the pain.

T:  we will talk with carol and mike about this and help her work through this sadness.  can you stay in the here and now BPDd-13?

BPDd-13:  i'll try.

T:  let's talk about family weekend and the home visit.

(husband is now conferenced into the call)

T:  she is pulling herself together.

dh:  can you use what you learned from training mijo to help other horses with their people?

BPDd-13:  yes.

T:  some relationships are for life lessons and are not meant to be permanent.  BPDd-13 has been working on a packet called "thinking errors".  sometimes parents have thinking errors too.  during family weekend there will be a packet for mom and dad to work on.

we need to talk about more positive things.  we have already discussed limiting time w/your little friend m, the home visit not being a vacation, doing chores, no computer unsupervised, playing video games as a family, no isolating in your room.  anything else we need to discuss about the home visit?

BPDd-13:  can I play on the xbox after my mom and dad go to bed?

T:  what about that mom and dad?

dh:  I don't know...i wouldn't want you to stay up all night and not be able to participate with the family the next day.

T:  what would happen if you were so tired the next day that you slept most of the day away and did not do your chores or participate with your family?

BPDd-13:  no xbox.

T:  right.

me:  I know how you like your sleep so lets be careful to get proper rest so that you can be at your best.

BPDd-13:  the less I sleep the easier it is for me to get up the next morning.

 ;p  ?

T:  I really think that BPDd-13 will make a good choice about the violent games and their negative impact on her.

me:  do you remember what we talked about doing when  you get home?

BPDd-13:  what do you mean?

me:  well, you said you thought there was negative energy in your room right?  and that we would all go to your room and say a prayer for all the negative energy to leave.  if you ask the negative energy to leave and then create more negative energy through games and other things how does that help?

BPDd-13:  it won't.

T:  what else is a concern for the family visit?

me:  her 1/2 brother and sister are looking forward to seeing BPDd-13 and will be here for the holiday.  we may need BPDd-13 to help keep her 1/2 brother engaged and not isolated.  what is his favorite thing to do BPDd-13?

BPDd-13:  take naps on the couch with little nicky.

me:  right.  he takes a lot of medication and needs extra sleep yet we also want him to participate with us as a family and not isolate through sleep.  maybe if  you take away his nap buddy it will help accomplish that.

BPDd-13:  I plan on spending as much time w/little nicky as I can.  I miss him so much.

T:  what family traditions do you have that you are looking forward to?

BPDd-13:  the pizza party at grammy's house.  are we going to grammy's?

me:  we usually do that a week or so before Christmas so that extended family and the kids can see each other.  I don't think there is a plan for the party this year and since we won't be back home until the 23rd that won't allow time for that type of gathering.  I believe that grammy and pawpaw will come to our house on Christmas day.

T:  any other traditions?

me:  every year BPDd-13 counts and rearranges the birds that are on the tree.  this year there are some new ones and dad has a prize for the person who guesses the closest to the correct number of birds on the tree.

BPDd-13:  we put up our tree after Thanksgiving but not on Thanksgiving day.

me:  I have already put up the tree since we will not have time to do that when BPDd-13 gets home.  it will be late on the 23rd and we will have lots to do on the 24th...shopping is one of the things we will need to do the day before Christmas.

BPDd-13:  I didn't realize it would be so close to Christmas when I got home.

T:  keeping family traditions is important for a family's identity and creates bonding so keep those traditions as best you can and maybe even create some new ones.  while she is home I want you all to keep a journal of what went well and what still needs to be worked on and email it to me after she comes back here.  I want BPDd-13 to do the same and I will get hers when she comes back.

me:  BPDd-13 ... have you gotten caught up on  your school work or will you be bringing some home to do?

BPDd-13:  not yet,  i'm working on it.  I want to apply for trans again when I get back from my home visit.

T:  have you read "anatomy of peace" yet?  that and Positive Peer Culture are required to be accepted into trans.

BPDd-13: I haven't finished it yet but I did finish the Positive Peer Culture book.

T:  being behind creates stress so let's get caught up and relieve some of that stress ok?

BPDd-13: ok

dh:  have there been any new girls come in?  have you helped them?

BPDd-13:  yeah. there have been 2 new girls.

dh:  do you see how far you have come compared to the newbies?

BPDd-13:  yeah. a lot!

dh:  what is the biggest change...what woke you up...when did you realize that we love  you?

BPDd-13:  on father's day when I wrote you that card and got to call you.

did you ever get that card?

dh:  yes I did.  you can make a difference in your life and the lives of others with what you have learned.  we pray for you and love you so much.  we also pray daily for the staff at falcon ridge that they will have the wisdom to help you and all the other girls there. I will close us with a prayer today...

we said our good byes.

lbjnltx

    :)

lbj - I think of you and your family everyday, praying for the guidance you so richly seem to be receiving.  Hang in there - there is such resistance to change the ways at home for d14, this is clear in the session just ended. Ah - new contracts so invite the push against the edges. So pray for you and husband to be calm, stand fast and for d14 to have her Wise Mind engaged as much as possible. Have a good trip next weekend - learning for everyone - and a safe journey home.

qcr  |iiii      

It is great to hear that you DD is doing so well.  I just wanted to share a bit of my 15yoDD experiences of late..  She spent 7 months is residential therapy and seemed to be doing so well.  She would make promise after promise that she would use all she learned in therapy when she came home.  Well, she has been home since 10/24/10 and slowly, but absolutely certainly, she is back to most of her same behaviors.  She is volatile, moody, nasty, mean, lies, purging, starving herself!  Just be very, very aware that things may go back to the old ways once she is home.  I even mentioned putting my DD back in residential and her therapist told me that she would simply skate through, do everything she's supposed to and probably return back to same old behaviors (My DD happened to be a master at manipulation and has fooled many, many counselors, therapists...).  I truly hope with all my heart that this does not happen with your daughter.  I am again at my wits end and it hasn't been near as long as I endured before treatment and I try to find the strength everyday to keep going with her.  She is in aftercare with 3 different therapists, but almost everything is a constant battle; school, homework, chores, computer, phone, isolating, cussing, yelling, screaming... She had absolutely none of this at RTC.   It was so nice to have my daughter back for a short period of time and now I think I miss it even more than before she went to RTC!  I am truly not trying to burst your bubble or bring you down; (it sounds like she is doing great) I just wanted to share what happened in my situation.  I truly in my heart believed my DD was going to use all of what she learned when she got home, but after about 3 weeks, it's been down hill from there which each day seeming to get worse and worse..

dear debbirazz,

so very sorry to hear that your d isn't making good choices at this time.  I too have the fear that my d will revert back to her old ways...that is why we have plans in place to continue the good things she is doing at the residential treatment center...i have vowed to help her start a Positive Peer Culture group either at school or at our church, just bought her a brand new saddle for Christmas to encourage her equine activity, have been in touch w/her therapist at home to keep the dbt advancing, plan to take her for neurofeedback therapy and make sure the school watches her like a hawk...also she will be playing sports.

we have made the decision to have no internet in the home when she gets back.  she will have to earn it through trust before she has access, she will not be allowed to have accounts online in the future unless we have the passwords, we will have an internet security system installed on the computer when we once more reinstate online service.  she will not have access to the phone numbers of any of her past friends unless we approve them first.  she will not be going back to the same school either so we are giving her as much opportunity to succeed as we are able...the rest is up to her. 


when I catch myself having fearful thoughts I remind myself how much God has been and continues to be the leader in this process.  I claim my inheritance and the promises He has made to me and the fear subsides...

i hope that one day soon your d will decide to use all the tools she learned and turn herself back around.

lbjnltx

Debbirazz: I had the same experience as you. Our son was in residential treatment for 21 months and did great while he was in a structured environment with a scheduled routine. He even graduated high school there with honors! But slowly, as he came home, he was back to his old behaviors. He is master at manipulating also. He could convince Eskimos to buy ice...

I hope ibjnltx has a better outcome. Not to be negative... but be prepared...there are no guarantees. Maybe yours will be one who follows through on what she has learned!...Best of luck to you.

lbj,

It sounds like you are being pro-active.  I know when I worked at psychiatric hospital, we had a few return admits at the residential treatment center.  However, most of them were in foster care, and I can't recall if they were with the same family when they returned.  But, on the flip side we heard of other residents who were doing really well.  I think that being pro-active is key, here. 

Debirrazz, would you consider getting a second opinion about sending her back? Are you in a position to do so? Perhaps, she will skate through, but she will not like the idea of having to go back a third time. JMHO, I could be totally wrong, here.

Debirazz and lovesjazz, I am really sorry that recovery from this illness was not long lasting.  I know that many people must go to rehab several times before they give up their old behaviors of addiction.  It must be really hard when they are still adolescents.  Adolescence is a difficult time enough for teens without mental illness.

 

peaceplease

Familt T Session #24  12-16-10

BPDd-13: started the call by telling me she has earned earring privilege.  she said she would get some of her earrings when she comes home.

t:  she earned the privilege for the positive way she is dealing with the situation w/mijo...one of her project horses that she found out is leaving the ranch. 

BPDd-13:  I got in trouble yesterday though for being defiant towards staff.  she told us we couldn't eat before our chores so I told her i'm not doing my chores.  the group helped me to see that I was hurting everyone by being defiant.  I didn't have to go to the rec room for self time and to protect the group so it all came out ok. 

me:  what did the group do to help you?

BPDd-13:  some of them came off mean but there were a few who were nice so it made it easier to understand that I was not helping them or myself by being defiant.

t:  this is from a thinking error on her part that things are always supposed to be fair.  is it realistic to expect everything to be fair all the time for everyone?

BPDd-13:  no.

t:  sometimes if what is fair for you is done then that means that what is fair for someone else won't get done.  so you are only looking at yourself.  what does "fair" mean?

dh:  every one's needs get met.

me:  the rights and respect of everyone is considered and shown.

t:  all the time?

BPDd-13:  no

t:  compromising needs to happen in order to reach as close to a fair decision as possible.  BPDd-13 has been working on having an open mind and willingness to compromise when it comes to her video games.  what have you decided about the games?

BPDd-13:  I don't know.

t:  I recall from our therapy session yesterday that you said you were not going to shut down, and you were willing to talk about it w/mom and dad.  we used an analogy with mijo.  if mijo gets access to bad hay and he is hungry he will eat that bad hay because he doesn't understand the possible consequences of the bad hay making him sick.  just as you don't believe or understand the bad consequences of playing violent games.  in the end the games will not make  you happy.

what will it look like at home when you have to make a decision about the games?

BPDd-13:  (no response)

me:  if we think about this with our Wise Mind we can more clearly see how to make a decision.

t: when you first got here you drew a road map.  the destination is going home for good.  along the road there were goals that had to be met to reach your destination.  also along the road were side roads that would  detour you from reaching your destination.  we discussed how everything is connected.  when  you think about things not being fair think about how everything is connected.  the side roads you take will lead  you further from your goals.  this is something you need to realize.

me:  I see what you mean t.  BPDd-13 have you ever heard the saying "put good in get good out"?

BPDd-13:  yes.  I know that if I take a side road I will have to travel all the way back to get back on the right track.

t:  at home we want to focus on the positives.  I want you and your family to create a paper chain with positive memories written by all of you on each link.  I think that if you focus your energy on positive things you will find you don't have the time or the need for negative things like violent video games.

BPDd-13:  I don't think they are negative.  they are a stress reliever for me and I think I should be rewarded for all the progress I have made. they aren't rewarding me by taking away something I like.

t:  there are many ways to be rewarded...not just by giving things.  they are coming here and taking you back with them to your home.  isn't that a reward?

BPDd-13:  yeah.

t:  ok. so don't put that on mom and dad.  this is black and white thinking...another of your thinking errors.  will the home visit and Christmas be good without the video game you want?

BPDd-13:  not as good.

t:  what is Christmas about?

BPDd-13:  spending time with your family.

t:  mom and dad what is Christmas about for you?

me:  it is a celebration of the birth of our savior Jesus Christ.

t:  is this what Christmas is about for you?

BPDd-13:  I don't know.

t: she needs time to process this.

dh:  God gave us the gift of His Son and we give gifts to each other to show His love to one another.  does that help you understand better?

BPDd-13:  yeah.

t:  BPDd-13, are you in your emotional mind right now or your Wise Mind?

BPDd-13:  wise.

t:  before you learned to get into your emotional mind what would you do in a situation like this?

BPDd-13:  plug my ears.

t:  you have come a long way.  you will not always get your way.  thank  you for being honest about your feelings.  did that change the outcome about getting the game?

BPDd-13:  no.

t:  understanding doesn't mean you get what you want.  you have parents wanting to protect  you just like you would want to protect mijo.  it sometimes won't be what we want to hear but it is nice to know that we are cared about.

dh:  what is making you so sad?

BPDd-13:  not getting the game.  that you don't trust me.

me:  I would like to focus on the positive and move away from possible negatives.

dh:  yes, lets have good influences in our lives as much as we can.

BPDd-13:  can I buy the game for myself w/my own money?

t:  whose visit is the home visit?  does dad have a right to say what he allows in his home since he pays the bills?

BPDd-13:  it's every one's' visit and yeah he has that right.

t:  if you need to relieve stress what other choices do you have?

BPDd-13:  it's too cold to go outside and play basketball or something.

t:  you are stuck.

BPDd-13:  no i'm not.

t:  we need to table this once more.

me:  we encourage you take make as many choices for yourself as you are able.  if you don't demonstrate to us that you are able then we will have to make some of the choices for you.

t:  if mom and dad notice you isolating and becoming more aggressive and believe that the video games are part of the problem then what will you do?

BPDd-13:  I was less aggressive when I played the games because they relieved my stress.  it's like exposure therapy.

me:  EXPOSURE THERAPY?

t:   lol  exposure therapy.

BPDd-13:  (crying)  you are laughing at me.

t:  no i'm not laughing at you.  i'm just surprised by you and your intelligence once more and you are so cute.  you know I would not laugh at you.

BPDd-13:  I would leave the game alone if it hurts me. I feel like you are laughing at me.

t:  you know me well enough by now to understand that I don't laugh at you right?

BPDd-13:  yeah. (still crying)

t:  we need to end our therapy call for today.

we said our goodbyes and BPDd-13 still had the ability to tell us she loves us.

one hour and 15 minutes later:

Positive Peer Culture Therapy Session

the session began w/nali letting BPDd-13 and I talk while he conferences in dh.  she was telling me how she got to drive the mule while the equine specialist rode mijo and practiced roping a dummy steer she was pulling.  also she told me that another cowboy working with the horses stood on mijo's back and that she got to sit on him bareback.

we started the session:

Question 1:

Positive peer culture is based on what application?

a. peer respect

b. peer unity

c. peer concern

d. all of the above

nali:  what did you get for that mom and dad?

me:  we put c. peer concern

nali:  BPDd-13 what did you put for your answer?

BPDd-13:  d.  all of the above..

nali:  the answer is c.  peer concern.  mom why did you put c?

me:  well the question is what is it based on.  while all the other applications are components of Positive Peer Culture they are based on concern for one another and build on that foundation of concern.

nali:  right.  wonderful (he says that a lot lol)  BPDd-13 needs to be concerned about mom and dad and  herself.  you focus everywhere else

accept on yourself when it comes to being concerned.

Question 2:

A student in a Positive Peer Culture group enters the group to be in what seat?

a. hot seat

b. help seat

c. love seat

d. angry seat

nali:  what did you get for answer #2 BPDd-13?

BPDd-13:  b. help seat

nali:  why is this a big deal?

BPDd-13:  if you truly want to help the hot seat will only lead to frustration. 

nali:  being willing to ask for help and be open to help is important.  is it realistic for someone to expect help only on their terms?

BPDd-13: no.

nali:  mom and dad what did you put for your answer?

me:  b. help seat. 

nali:  do you agree that it is unrealistic to expect help only on your terms?

me: yes, because sometimes our terms are that they solve our problems for us or give us permission to continue in the same problem behaviors.  if someone is concerned for us and wants to help us they will not do that.

nali: wonderful.  BPDd-13, how did you see the help mom and dad were trying to give  you at home?

BPDd-13:  as an attack

Question 3:

The foundations of Positive Peer Culture are:?

a. care

b. mutual trust

c. concern

d. all of the above

nali:  what do you have for your answer BPDd-13?

BPDd-13:  I circled d. all of the above.

nali:  wonderful.  which of these areas do you think you struggle with the most as a family?

BPDd-13:  trust. 

nali:  what have you learned to increase the level of trust from mom and dad?

BPDd-13:  learning better coping skills.  learning what true love and caring is from my family.

nali:  how will they know you are for real?

BPDd-13:  by putting it into action and experiencing me using my coping skills with their support.

nali:  what have you learned about choices?

BPDd-13:  that they have consequences good and bad.

nali: what does trust mean to you dad?

dh:  open and honest communication of our feelings.

nali:  wonderful.  BPDd-13 what does help with this look like?

BPDd-13:  with help and using coping skills to stay in my Wise Mind I have learned to better trust myself but i'm still working on that.

nali:  mom, what does trust mean to you?

me:  it means that we believe in her ability to make some decisions for herself.  and it also means that she can believe that the decisions we make for her are truly in her best interest.  BPDd-13, would you believe that I was a good parent if I allowed you to have or bought for you a video game that was rated M for mature, 17 years and up?

BPDd-13: I think it would depend on the game.  but the games I have and want are T for teen.

me:  no they are not.  I looked at the games we are talking about and they are rated M for mature. 

nali:  is it necessary for you to have the games?  will it help you?

BPDd-13:  they are my stress relievers.

nali:  you are making excuses to get what you want. do you see that?

BPDd-13:  (crying again) yeah, they never made me more aggressive before so I don't see why...

nali:  now you are justifying.  destinguishing between need and want are important.

me:  we are trying to be in the help seat based on concern for you BPDd-13. 

nali:  being honest and talking this out is a good way to problem solve.

BPDd-13: what is the point of talking?

nali:  it is a parents responsibility to protect and provide.  if they compromise their standards on the games then you will expect them to compromise on other things as well.  this is not showing concern and protecting you.  let move on to the next question.

Question 4:

What is anxiety?

a. feeling bad

b. body's natural warning system

c. a signal

d. hyperactivity

nali:  mom what is the answer you put?

me:  b. problem solving.  it is my experience that most anxiety is based on past experience.

nali:  wonderful.  mom read the next one please.

Question 5:

Ppc makes a distinction between controlling problems and _____?

a. a behavior problem

b. solving problems

c. observable behavior

d. insufficient problems

nali: BPDd-13 what is the answer?

BPDd-13:  b. solving problems.

nali:  how are we going to solve this problem? solving problems is spending energy in a positive way.  right now you are shutting down.  why? 

BPDd-13:  if I can't play the game on xbox live I won't be able to talk to my cousin and he needs help.

nali:  once more you are doing what you always do..which is what?

BPDd-13:  focus on someone else instead of myself.

nali:  how can you help him if you can't help yourself?  what do you want to do right now?

BPDd-13:  go home.

nali:  what if you can't handle things at home appropriatly?  you shut down when mom and dad take a stand. 

BPDd-13: (crying)

nali:  we are going to stop for now.

dh:  will you call and let mom know how she is doing later.  she worries sometimes.

nali:  yes. I will.

we said our good byes and once more BPDd-13 sent us her love.

i did not hear back from nali.  we leave on sunday to go to utah to the family weekend for therapy and will bring BPDd-13 home for Christmas...home wed. the 22nd-29th.  for Christmas we bought her a new saddle (w/grammi and pawpaws help), the move "dispicable me" and an alarm clock for her room.

thanks for traveling this road with me...it would be so lonely without all of you.


lbjnltx

dar lbj,

Thanks for allowing us to come along for the ride.  It has been so informative and validating.

All of your posts give me such hope that while your D is still resistant around the violent game, she is at least listening to reason.  Her defiance seems to be lessening as she learns more about herself and her horse and what it means to care for and be responsible for another.

She is growing wiser and has very wise parents. 

Blessing to each of you at Christmas and this all important first visit home.

Take good care,


pennifree   

lbj - my thoughts an prayers as you journey to have your weekend in Utah and home with d14. Though the game issue is a tough one, d14 seems to be putting more into thinking. What other avenues are for her to 'stress relief' - she so emphasizeds this. And has the types or sources of this stress been included in the conversations?

The love in your family is so evident - even in d14's resistence.

qcr  

thank you for the kind words pennifree and qcarol!

she has many ways to relieve stress indoors.  dance dance revolution, Beatles rock band, yoga videos, hot baths, etc...

i didn't offer her other ideas at the time because I was hoping she would come up with her own ideas and also because I don't want to solve her problems for her..."i don't have to make everything all better"!



lbjnltx

Setting the rating limit is a good boundary, and no Xbox Live anyway with no internet access in the house - the whole game question becomes a moot point really. And how does this live game 'help my cousin'. T probably has these questions out there - just thought maybe the question to her of what other thinking she has done for relieving stress. Perhaps she is using this as a test point for you all in this visit.

Hope sharing these random thoughts is OK. Take what you can use and just leave the rest.

qcr

lbj,

Thanks for sharing.  I am wishing you a safe and wonderful trip. 

I was just wondering, if you could compromise on the game.  Is there another non-violent one that she would enjoy as well.  Or, are you going non-video game?  I was just curious.  I thought there may be some games out there (would hope) that would help with life skills.  I know for the younger pre-school kids they have many learning videos.  I was thinking that it would be great, if they had some learning videos for teens as well.  I really don't know what is out there for this age group, now.  I know that video games can be a waste of time, but what if they were learning something from them.  Maybe the learning tools stop at a certain age. 

I know that I do not like my gs watching violent videos.  My kids think I am way too protective in that area.  However, I go by ratings, and they are there for a reason.  I don't like him watching any movies where they wrestle or karate kid.  He is always wrestling and doing karate moves.  Even spiderman has him climbing my walls!  It was cute at first, but not anymore.  And, his theme for birthday party this years is spiderman. Sorry, getting off topic here!

Again, thanks for sharing, and I hope her visit home will be great for all of you.   


peaceplease

Dear lbjnltx,

I hope you are enjoying time with you DD as I type this. I hope everything goes well with her visit. Stay strong and please let us know how it goes. I am thinking of you.

   

hello dear friends and Merry Christmas!

what a journey!  lots of strange occurrences but we made it home and all is going pretty well.

will update you all when time allows.

thanks for your thought and prayers.

God bless you all and your families.



lbjnltx

greetings dear friends,

so sorry to read that so many have had to deal with major crisis' this Christmas.  stay strong and true to your values and you will make it to another day that holds some promise. 

our home visit has been awesome.  I have been trying to journal daily (at the request of BPDd-13's therapist at the residential treatment center) and will post the daily details once I get my precious BPDd-13 back to falcon ridge.

God bless

lbjnltx

So happy for you and your family. Keep up the good work. I am looking forward to reading all about it when you get a chance. |iiii

Glad to hear that you had a good Christmas.  Looking forward to hear more about your dd's visit home.


peaceplease

lbj - so happy the home visit is going well and look forward to hearing more when you have time again.  |iiii

qcr

well dear friends...there is so much to tell so I will start at the beginning.  I may not get it all done tonight but I will give it a shot!

sunday, december the 19th.  husband is ill.  went to the 24 hour clinic for meds to help.  caught our flight ok.  had problems at the rental car center as they had us picking up car at 10 am and listed us as a no show...wanted to charge us about 25 a day more than the agreement so we went elsewhere...found a nice young man at Budget rentacar that gave us a great deal plus a free upgrade...it was raining in vegas when we landed so we had a long drive in the rain up to utah.  we didn't get to see BPDd-13 sing in the chorus of Messiah.  the residential treatment center called just as we arrived at our hotel room to see if we were ok as BPDd-13 was expecting to get to stay with us at the hotel that night.  told them to go ahead and put her to bed and we would see her in the morning at 8 for breakfast.

monday 20th.

arrived at falcon ridge at 8 for breakfast.  BPDd-13 so glad to see us ... asked me to "call next time if you aren't going to be able to be here when you said you were".  assured her I would and also apologized for not making the concert...told her also that I had told the case manager we would do our best to get there but it would be close...somehow the message got miscommunicated...or maybe BPDd-13 was just overly hopeful...anyway...it was ok.  after breakfast we had family Positive Peer Culture with nale and all the other girls and their families that were there for the weekend.  I was so proud of my BPDd-13 as she was able to explain to the newer parents who have not had much time working with nale or Positive Peer Culture how the whole process works.  one family was "awarded the meeting"  which means that all the others present would give them feedback on their particular family situation.  at the end of the meeting several people told me "you and your daughter could have run the meeting".  that really gives me the confidence that when my BPDd-13 comes home we can really make a go of starting a Positive Peer Culture group here.

we had an hour free before lunch was being served so my BPDd-13 played a game of chess with another students dad.  she did very well against this 50 something Englishman.  after lunch parents went to a class on "the cycle of anger" with the clinical director/equine therapist.

we were only able to stay for one of the two hours of this class because we had individual family therapy with lorneta...my BPDd-13's t. in this session we talked about mazlows hierarchy of needs.  we received our assignments once more that were to be done during the home visit.:  BPDd-13=close facebook account and delete all emails., give mom and dad the password to the computer, read "anatomy of peace" if you want to apply for trans when  you get back. all of us: journal daily, make a paper chain with positive memories or attributes about BPDd-13 on each link, say the cleansing prayers in BPDd-13's rooms. we also received a worksheet to do on thinking errors. 

BPDd-13 had to go get ready for the graduation program.  she did not want to wear a dress!  husband and I sat at a table up front and BPDd-13 sat on the front of 2 rows of chairs for the girls performing.  there were 2 girls graduating from high school and one girl graduating from the program...she had been there for 14 months...wow!  that's a fortune if mom and dad paid out of their pockets...they sang some Christmas songs.  the last musical number was "wind beneath my wings".  BPDd-13 looked me straight in the eye while she sang that song...i was a blubbering mess! :'(  at the end I signaled to her 'my heart is yours' and she told me "i love you" with silent lips...still standing in the line of girls across the room from me...i will never ever forget this precious 2 minutes.  I would walk to the ends of the earth to experience it again!  after the program was over we had a nice dinner there and the girls were given gifts.  one of them was a book of poetry and writings by the girls.  here is one of the poems my BPDd-13 wrote back in november:

My Forest

my wicked forest will turn you away

even if it seems like it begs you to stay

at the top of the trees there's a fighting wind

like a sword of steel it won't break or bend

a lifeless river flows around it all

to protect my forest so it will never fall

the stones of ash are solid and rough

they make my forest look scary and tough

but inside of it...hidden away

is a sweet little girl who is very afraid

with the help of my friends and those who are close

the ones I push away will help me the most

so i'll tear it apart, by root and vine

this wicked forest is no longer mine.

we left the ranch and went back to our hotel.  husband was tired as it was about 9pm by now and he went to sleep.  BPDd-13 and I laughed and talked...took video of husband snoring, snuck down the hallway to get snacks and she was still having trouble getting sleepy.  I started reading "BPD in Adolescents" by blaise aguirre and she asked me what I was reading.  I told her the name of the book and she said "read me some of what BPD is".  so I read some of the descriptions of how teens experience BPD.  she said "that sounds just like me".  I also told her that since she is so young technically she is dx w/ BPD traits...not the full blown disorder even though there are times in the past that she behaved like she did.   throughout the entire day and night it never stopped raining. ;p

tuesday 21st.

we gave a lift up the mountain to another "new" mom who had not rented a car.  BPDd-13 has her d as a room mate at falcon and reassured her mom that she is doing well and working hard.  we arrived at a few minutes after 8 and had a lite breakfast and headed over to our academic meeting w/BPDd-13's teachers.  just as we came down the hall the case manager came out of her office and told us the call to evacuate had come in and we needed to get BPDd-13 and leave the ranch...no meeting w/clinical director about finances, no power point presentation on nuero feedback therapy, no academic meeting to discuss an iep...just out!  so we did!  we headed back down to hurricane and went to walmart to get BPDd-13 some cold sore medicine..then we went to a resteraunt and had a little more breakfast.  we went back to the hotel where husband rested and BPDd-13 and I watched a movie. we met up with another family who had rented a house and their d is bffs w/my BPDd-13.  we had pizza at their rental home and the girls sang and danced to cd's.  BPDd-13 invited their d back to our hotel to swim in the indoor heated pool.  after the girls swam about and hour BPDd-13 showered and wanted to go do something...go shopping or something.  we went back to walmart and planned to get subway there for dinner as well.  just as BPDd-13 was coming out of the dressing room the entire town of hurricane utah went black!  the emergency lighting came on after just a few seconds and of course the registers still worked! lol  subway could not sell anything though so we left with only chips.  husband wanted to find somewhere else to eat but the whole town lost power and BPDd-13 was telling him "i don't feel good about this.  let's just go back to the hotel please".  so he did.  at the hotel the only light was the headlights of cars coming through the open window.  all 3 of us layed in the same bed eating chips and laughing and talking until the power came back on about an hour and a half later.

maybe i'm a little shell shocked...but I think i'm going to hit post so I don't lose all this. i'll begin another shortly...to be continued...

lbjnltx

lbj - WHEW - what a whirwind  couple of days. I look forward to the next installment. I am always amazed at the details you retain to share your story.

Thanks, qcr

continuation:

wednesday 22nd.

we got up and got ready to head to vegas to catch our flight.  it was raining in hurricane but by the time we got to st. george it was raining heavily.  dh drove too fast for my or my BPDd-13's comfort and we were repeatedly asking him to slow down.  about an hour or so from vegas my BPDd-13 says "mom.  i need to tell you that every little thing is making me feel angry. I don't know why.  it just is.  so that you know in advance that I am feeling this way."  i replied "thank you for letting me know.  we will try our best to help  you cope."  she didn't act out in any way or say anything ugly...i think it was most likely anxiety about driving in the rain and being couped up in the car for so long.  we stopped and ate lunch at ...you guessed it...subway just outside of vegas.  we turned in our rental car, rode the shuttle back to the airport, went through security and headed to our gate..no plane...ok...board still showing it as "on time".  from past experience I know that doesn't mean anything!  so when boarding time came and went and the plane wasn't there I asked the attendant where the plane was coming from?  :).C.  BPDd-13 and I went to star bucks and bought some snacks...finally plane arrived an hour late...sold out flight...packed in like sardines!  we finally leave the gate 1 hour late...go sit on the tarmac for 20 min. when I hear the flight attendant rather loudly asking some passengers on row 4 (we are on row 17) "are we going to take off or are we going back to the gate?" HUH!

next thing I know the pilot announces we are going back to the gate.  apparently a woman made a rude comment to this mom and dad traveling with a 2year old boy and the mom made a threatening comment towards the woman.  so now she is a security risk!  we finally got in the air an hour and 25 minutes late.  it was a rough flight due to turbulence...still raining in vegas.  the drive from the airport home is about 2.5 hours.  not raining here...yeah!  oh...we are in a severe drought at that time. so not so great...anyway...we sat in traffic in the "big city" for about 30 min...made it out...stopped to eat dinner...even though BPDd-13 wanted to get home and go pick up her wiener dog and see her rooms I redid for her...she was kind and patient and enjoyed  the meal...it was cafeteria style served...bar b que!  we were in and out in no time...then there was a 4 car accident on the 2 lane highway which cost us another 20 minutes...we finally get home and BPDd-13 gives me a big hug because she loves her rooms that I re did for her.  she wants to stay home and let me go by myself to pick up her dog.  i am almost to my friends house...just about to turn on the blinker when the sheriff's deputy flashes his lights at me to pull over...what now i'm thinking? I don't speed!  well come to find out the lights on my license plate were both burned out...well actually they weren't burned out they just weren't making contact due to all the dirt that gets inside of them...i live 2.5 miles down a dirt road.  so I get the dog and go home.  by this time I am so tired and the sniffles I came down with when I landed in vegas have become a full blown head cold.  BPDd-13 was so happy to see her little dog. she fell asleep on the couch watching one of her favorite movies "coraline" and holding her dog.  

thursday 23rd.

stepson came in during the night.  BPDd-13 got up around 10.  she called her little friend m to go to walmart Christmas shopping.  we gave BPDd-13 $50 to buy stocking stuffers for the pets and a gift for her friend m.  BPDd-13 was really good about staying w/me.  she was not allowed to be at home or anywhere without dad or i.  i over heard her tell m several times "no.  i have to stay w/my mom" and "no. I can't. i'm not allowed to watch violent shows or play violent games" and "no. i'm not allowed to visit friends at their houses".  we finished our shopping and had lunch at ... yep! subway and then headed home. m stayed until 6pm.  BPDd-13 helped her dad feed the horses and cows and put out 2 hay.  step daughter and her roomy arrived about 9 and BPDd-13 helped them make some snacks as gifts (puppy chow) until about 1 am.

friday 24th.

BPDd-13 got up around 10 to a warm pumpkin pie coming out of the oven...her favorite.  her friend m called to see if she could come over later that day...dad said ok for a few hours.  BPDd-13 and I were in the guest room wrapping gifts when dad came in and wanted to know if she would give her iphone to her stepdaughter (21)ter as hers was broken.  BPDd-13 had already been told that she would not be getting her iphone reactivated because it would come w/internet automatically.  dh was not very sensitive about how he asked and BPDd-13 didn't react very well to his request saying "i thought we were starting with a clean slate" and "it isn't fair that sissy gets internet and I don't".  i told BPDd-13 that having internet on her cell phone posses a safety concern and that when she was over 18 and in college and needed internet on her cell phone we would pay for her to have it too.  i also told her that "we have made mistakes in the past and that doesn't mean that we have to continue to make them".  she calmed down immediately and said "ok. she is such a good sister to me.  i want to give her the phone".  dh was evidently still focusing on the negative and said "never mind. the whole deal is off" and walked out of the room.  that is when BPDd-13 started to cry a little with her head hanging down and asked me "does dad love sissy more than me?" I assured her he does not and that he struggles sometimes to see past his own emotions and stay in his Wise Mind.  after we finished wrapping the presents we called husband back into the room to talk again.  BPDd-13 was not very kind in her words to him...though not hateful either.  dh said "that sounds kind of ugly". I stepped in quickly and said "before we speak, think about how what we are going to say may sound to the other person.  BPDd-13 do you think there was another way to say what you needed to say without being hurtful?" she replied "yes. sorry dad".  i told husband "if she is calm and without attitude you can trust in what she says and believe her." so the situation was resolved and BPDd-13 would be giving stepdaughter (21) her iphone.  dh and BPDd-13 went upstairs so that she could help him wrap my presents.  m came over and played beatles rock band with BPDd-13. stepdaughter (21) went up and played as well.  a little while later m came down and said the girls fell asleep and wouldn't wake up.  m went home shortly.  we opened gifts and BPDd-13 loved her new saddle.  the girls helped me fix dinner and after dinner we watched tv and talked. we went up to BPDd-13's rooms and did the cleansing prayer.

saturday 25th.

BPDd-13 up before me...i'm really ill by this time...the flu!  i cooked Christmas dinner with a mask on...after dinner w/my mom and dad and the rest of the family BPDd-13 went riding for awhile.  she loves her new saddle.  we started watching the football game and worked on the paper chain until BPDd-13 got tired and went to bed.

sunday 26th.

BPDd-13 and husband went to sunday school and church while I stayed home sick. they went to town and got a variety of fruits to have for lunch and got me some meds.  after lunch BPDd-13 and I watched "despicable me" and had fun with that.  she wanted to go riding again but I wasn't able to be out in the RAIN (drought finally over) and husband was napping upstairs.  BPDd-13 "i don't want to bother him.  he is tired from being sick and traveling so much"..  when husband got up we went up to her room and all played rock band together.  we watched the nature program on the wild horses of montana...time for bed and BPDd-13 gave me a hug and kiss on the forehead and told me to "feel better mommy, I love you."

monday 27th.

feeling better today...fever broke during the nite so I took BPDd-13 to the "city" to go to a mall to spend some of her Christmas $.  we had a good time...she bought me a new purse as a gift and bought husband a beatles therapist shirt and a new beatles cd for the family.  when we got home we watched monday nite football for a while until BPDd-13 went to bed.

tuesday 28th.

put together the paper chain and hung it in BPDd-13's room.  she was very proud of it as it reached around almost 2 walls and across the ceiling...that's lots of positive things about her!  we left to go to see my mom and dad's new lake house on the way to the big city to stay the nite w/dh at our city apartment. at the lake house my great nephew (5 yrs. old) played with my BPDd-13 outside in the damp leaves getting all the bad guys with sticks, played go fish and had a snack together before time to leave. when we got to the city we went out to eat dinner and came back and watched "9" until BPDd-13 went to sleep.

wedneday 29th (today)

got to the airport and waited in line at the ticket counter to get a pass for me to go to the gate w/my BPDd-13.  dh arrived just in time to get a pass as well.  bought snacks for BPDd-13 to eat on the plane and she told me she would journal on the plane and finish a book the therapist had given her to read called "the ultimate gift".  dh tried to use his pass to get on the plane w/BPDd-13 and make sure she was seated right and put her bags in the overhead...nothing doing...turned back cold!  so we wave goodbye to her smiling face and fight back the tears.  i went back to the apartment to do some cleaning and get the dog before driving back to the ranch.  about 1/2 way home I called falcon ridge because I had not gotten a call from the staff member who was to meet my d at the gate in vegas.  to make a long story short...staff member (who I paid $125 + shuttle fare) was not allowed through security to meet my BPDd-13.  she sat by herself at the gate for over an hour and a half before they finally got matched up...i was furious and scared for my d.  i had called my mom to try to get airport security to take my d to baggage claim where the staff member was waiting...i called the staff member 2 times but she could not hear her phone ringing in the loud vegas airport (slot machines).  i left her messages for them to please page my d to meet her at baggage claim.  my mom called me while she had airport security on the phone trying to get them to help us...what a mess!  finally my BPDd-13 called me to let me know she was with the staff member and was ok...she was all giggly as the staff member had another student with her as well...don't know how they finally got together...guess I will find out tomorrow when we have family phone therapy.

ok...that's it for now.

thanks for reading...thanks for caring...thanks for praying...thanks for being my faithful friends...God bless you each and every one.


lbjnltx

Thank YOU, lbjnltx---for sharing this incredible journey with us.  I hope you sleep well tonight, knowing your dd is back safely, and you can get some rest over the next few days, and even get out of your "Wise Mind" on occasion.  You deserve it!   |iiii    Swampped

BPDd-13 called a few minutes ago to let me know she got to the ranch...7 hours and 15 minutes since her plane landed...

was only able to say "i'm here, i'm ok. I love you. I will talk to you tomorrow"


?  ;p  

lbjnltx

lbj - life is an adventure. Hope you can get some rest now. I continue to keep you all in my thoughts and prayers. You give us all such a gift of hope with sharing your story.

qcr    

lbjnltx,

God Bless you and your daughter and the adventure you are on.  It sounds like the home visit was quite the success, other than the hic-up with DH.  I hope all subsequent visits and when she comes home permanently that things will go as well if not better.  Woot-woot!

JM

thank you for the hopeful wishes and continued support.

we had our family therapist session last thursday.

basically spent about 45 min. going over the home visit and giving encouragement to BPDd-13 to continue to do well and enjoy life.  the therapist had called me wednesday shortly after I had left BPDd-13 at the airport so she already knew the visit had gone well.

the therapist used the analogy of BPDd-13 working calves on my quarter horse (gentle pressure to get them moving in the right direction, staying close but not crowding, and backing off so as not to run them over husband or through the fence) to help my husband have a visual reference in dealing with BPDd-13 during potentially stressful situations.

i brought up to my BPDd-13 that often times I will approach a sensitive subject with the words " I want you to give some thought to...please don't give an answer right now." and that she gives an immediate response or has a reaction.  the therapist explained to BPDd-13 that "mom is giving you a cue that this is potentially a sensitive subject and you need to be mindful of that cue.  this happens in therapy as well.  what do I say when you don't take time to think before you speak?"  BPDd-13:

"you say stop.  I don't want you to tell me your thoughts right now".

we are scheduled to have Positive Peer Culture on tues. and family therapist again on thursday.

lbjnltx

lbj - thanks for sharing your journey. D14 has grown up so much, and so much hopefulness toward her return home in the spring. Did you get to find out about the scholarship for March yet?

qcr

no, we were unable to have our meeting with the clinical director or owner of falcon ridge due to the evacuation order.  also missed the meeting/power point presentation on neurofeedback therapy for the same reason.  haven't heard from the clinical director yet.  she will call I am sure.

i did talk to case manager briefly today to request that she make a dental appointment for BPDd-13 to have some small cavities filled...the wait for insurance coverage has been met.  also asked her about sending a "nightmare before Christmas" blanket my BPDd-13 bought while at home...she said to wait until individual therapist has time to visit w/BPDd-13 about it.  she told me that my d was complaining this morning about not feeling well...achey...hope she isn't coming down with the flu that I had...have ... getting better daily but not 100% by a long shot yet!

how is gd5?  was she excited about Santa coming?



lbjnltx

lbj,

I hope that your dd is feeling better soon.  Why was falcon ridge being evacuated?



peaceplease

the virgin river that runs directly behind falcon ridge and under the bridge at the drive way was above flood stage.  there is an rv park across from falcon that was partially evacuated the day before.  the owner of falcon has a private residence at the top of a mountain overlooking falcon ridge and the girls that were not leaving for home visits/off campus visits were taken up the  mountain and spent 2 days at the private residence. the grounds of falcon flooded but to  my knowledge none of the buildings took on any water.  my BPDd-13 was extremely concerned for the horses.  I promised her (going on faith) that they would all be well taken care of just like the girls who remained at the ranch were.

the day after the evacuation (i found out later) the virgin river was sweeping away houses in mesquite nevada...apparently we were staying just ahead of the raging river as we drove towards vegas.

lbjnltx

Dear lbj,

It is amazing that we were thinking of each other at the same exact time.  I have been keeping up with what you post but have been needing to sit quietly with my situation - and do not know when I last posted except for one last week and a response to the ? from the admin.  in a thread they had started. 

I have noticed so many new people here - and with older children.  Lots of good discussions taking place.  Just could not participate unfortunately. 

But I do want you to know and state it in the public thread that I think what is taking place with your daughter is so wonderful and I can see why you would be full of hope for her. I know that once she is released you as her wonderful, loving mother will know exactly what to do- to keep the momentum of your daughter's improvements going- in the right direction. 

Your daughter is very smart and has insight into herself and her feelings.  She wants to be heard and wants her own pain to diminish.  When you described that book to her about BPD and she said that sounded like herself- that was nothing short of miraculous.  She gets it! 

I can see her one day using her own experiences to help others.  She is a caring, loving young woman who just needs to be understood.  You and her father are doing a wonderful job of learning how to make her feel heard and understood.

The therapists (s) at Falcon Ridge are so talented and perceptive and sensitive.  They know just when to step in or even if they have to-"table" something for the time being.  Your initial concerns about DBT - well it seems that whether they define what they do as DBT or not - it was easy to see that DBT was part of what they practice among other excellent techniques.

I could go on and on- but will end here saying that I am so happy for you and your daughter and your family- I cannot see anything but continued improvement and happiness for your family.  It may take continued work- but you are strong and determined and it is easy to see that your daughter is determined to be healthy.  That is what comes across to me.

Take good care.

Much love,

wtsp

dear wtsp,

thank you so much for taking the time to post your thoughts and feelings about our family's journey. 

i think some of the success/failure for those who have been through a long term inpatient experience depends on the support they get from their families.  my BPDd-13 is planning on starting a Positive Peer Culture group here in our town when she gets settled back at home.  perhaps at school? perhaps at our church? perhaps at the community center?  I started praying today for God to provide the means and the adult leadership needed for this to take place...i am not sure if it is myself or He has another in place...i just believe it will happen.

continue to take good care of yourself my dear friend...

sincerely

lbjnltx