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Title: Interesting what ds29 said to me tonight
Post by: cfh on February 14, 2013, 08:56:48 PM
I told my son that dh and I are taking the Family Connections course and how much we like it. 

He is in jail as you know.  He told me tonight "mom I know you are taking that course and I appreciate that you want to learn more about me but could you please go back to sounding like yourself when you talk to me."

Oops... .  I guess I'm being too obvious, or he is too smart, or I have to tone it down, or I am coming across as too validating and he's not buying it!

I want to sound authentic when I speak to him and I really do feel like I have learned a better way to communicate.  But I guess the words are not coming out right.

Any tips?


Title: Re: Interesting what ds29 said to me tonight
Post by: Reality on February 14, 2013, 09:29:18 PM
cfh,

Your son's words could have come straight from my son's mouth.  Almost spookily similar!  Oddly, it makes me laugh.

My son used to tell me to just be myself.  I think he saw through me totally. 

Reality


Title: Re: Interesting what ds29 said to me tonight
Post by: cfh on February 14, 2013, 09:46:02 PM
Reality

In some ways they are so wise, so smart and they pick up on things.  I've learned so much ( and I use it with my nonBPD son with great success!)

But I need to learn how to use the right language with ds29.  I guess he's on to me.  We need to talk this out.

But I did laugh when he said that to me and he laughed too... .  he told me to stop being goofy!


Title: Re: Interesting what ds29 said to me tonight
Post by: Reality on February 14, 2013, 10:14:32 PM
cfh,

My son told me that he didn't have BPD or DBT or PMS!  They do see through a lot of the nonsense, yet they can't manage not to trip themselves up! 

I guess they just want real, everyday mothers.  So unaware that their choices turn us into unreal, spooked-out mothers just  trying to get back into being real and everyday.

So evolved... .  so unaware... .  

Reality




Title: Re: Interesting what ds29 said to me tonight
Post by: cfh on February 14, 2013, 10:30:18 PM
Reality

I think our boys would have gotten a kick out of each other.

Your friend

cfh



Title: Re: Interesting what ds29 said to me tonight
Post by: lbjnltx on February 14, 2013, 10:58:54 PM
For me, when I got past the "practice" phase and absorbed validation and active listening into myself, it became part of who I am ... .  not just something I "do"... .  then it is authentic.

Your tone of voice and slight changes in verbiage will relax as you become more comfortable with the skills.  Our kids are very very perceptive... .  hypervigilant is their authentic state.

 


Title: Re: Interesting what ds29 said to me tonight
Post by: qcarolr on February 15, 2013, 10:57:19 AM
Being in a place of sincerely feeling non-judgemental and not giving advice - this was and is the hardest part of validation for me. It does get better as we do it until it becomes part of our nature - when we no longer have to pause and THINK of what we need to say. When the listening is there and the understanding has a flow. My DD's favorite response has been "mom, stop being a therapist". I haven't heard this from her recently.

qcr


Title: Re: Interesting what ds29 said to me tonight
Post by: Kate4queen on February 15, 2013, 01:26:47 PM
Interesting, my son can detect the slightest hint of me trying to validate him as well, but then I can't say anything right these days... .  :)


Title: Re: Interesting what ds29 said to me tonight
Post by: qcarolr on February 15, 2013, 11:36:40 PM
Interesting, my son can detect the slightest hint of me trying to validate him as well, but then I can't say anything right these days... .  :)

The key word in your reply, for me anyway, is "hint of me trying". Being able to communicate with my DD26 happens when I am in a place to BE validating with her, not TRYING to be. And it only works when she is also in a place to be receptive. When either or both of us are feeling in any way unsafe within ourselves then a conversation is very limited. This is how our brains work.

qcr  


Title: Re: Interesting what ds29 said to me tonight
Post by: cfh on February 16, 2013, 12:04:33 AM
I get it now.  At the moment I am "trying" and "practicing" but soon it will become just the way I think and communicate.

I need to work on really listening to ds.


Title: Re: Interesting what ds29 said to me tonight
Post by: qcarolr on February 16, 2013, 10:48:10 AM
I get it now.  At the moment I am "trying" and "practicing" but soon it will become just the way I think and communicate.

I need to work on really listening to ds.

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