Title: Interesting what ds29 said to me tonight Post by: cfh on February 14, 2013, 08:56:48 PM I told my son that dh and I are taking the Family Connections course and how much we like it.
He is in jail as you know. He told me tonight "mom I know you are taking that course and I appreciate that you want to learn more about me but could you please go back to sounding like yourself when you talk to me." Oops... . I guess I'm being too obvious, or he is too smart, or I have to tone it down, or I am coming across as too validating and he's not buying it! I want to sound authentic when I speak to him and I really do feel like I have learned a better way to communicate. But I guess the words are not coming out right. Any tips? Title: Re: Interesting what ds29 said to me tonight Post by: Reality on February 14, 2013, 09:29:18 PM cfh,
Your son's words could have come straight from my son's mouth. Almost spookily similar! Oddly, it makes me laugh. My son used to tell me to just be myself. I think he saw through me totally. Reality Title: Re: Interesting what ds29 said to me tonight Post by: cfh on February 14, 2013, 09:46:02 PM Reality
In some ways they are so wise, so smart and they pick up on things. I've learned so much ( and I use it with my nonBPD son with great success!) But I need to learn how to use the right language with ds29. I guess he's on to me. We need to talk this out. But I did laugh when he said that to me and he laughed too... . he told me to stop being goofy! Title: Re: Interesting what ds29 said to me tonight Post by: Reality on February 14, 2013, 10:14:32 PM cfh,
My son told me that he didn't have BPD or DBT or PMS! They do see through a lot of the nonsense, yet they can't manage not to trip themselves up! I guess they just want real, everyday mothers. So unaware that their choices turn us into unreal, spooked-out mothers just trying to get back into being real and everyday. So evolved... . so unaware... . Reality Title: Re: Interesting what ds29 said to me tonight Post by: cfh on February 14, 2013, 10:30:18 PM Reality
I think our boys would have gotten a kick out of each other. Your friend cfh Title: Re: Interesting what ds29 said to me tonight Post by: lbjnltx on February 14, 2013, 10:58:54 PM For me, when I got past the "practice" phase and absorbed validation and active listening into myself, it became part of who I am ... . not just something I "do"... . then it is authentic.
Your tone of voice and slight changes in verbiage will relax as you become more comfortable with the skills. Our kids are very very perceptive... . hypervigilant is their authentic state. Title: Re: Interesting what ds29 said to me tonight Post by: qcarolr on February 15, 2013, 10:57:19 AM Being in a place of sincerely feeling non-judgemental and not giving advice - this was and is the hardest part of validation for me. It does get better as we do it until it becomes part of our nature - when we no longer have to pause and THINK of what we need to say. When the listening is there and the understanding has a flow. My DD's favorite response has been "mom, stop being a therapist". I haven't heard this from her recently.
qcr Title: Re: Interesting what ds29 said to me tonight Post by: Kate4queen on February 15, 2013, 01:26:47 PM Interesting, my son can detect the slightest hint of me trying to validate him as well, but then I can't say anything right these days... . :)
Title: Re: Interesting what ds29 said to me tonight Post by: qcarolr on February 15, 2013, 11:36:40 PM Interesting, my son can detect the slightest hint of me trying to validate him as well, but then I can't say anything right these days... . :) The key word in your reply, for me anyway, is "hint of me trying". Being able to communicate with my DD26 happens when I am in a place to BE validating with her, not TRYING to be. And it only works when she is also in a place to be receptive. When either or both of us are feeling in any way unsafe within ourselves then a conversation is very limited. This is how our brains work. qcr Title: Re: Interesting what ds29 said to me tonight Post by: cfh on February 16, 2013, 12:04:33 AM I get it now. At the moment I am "trying" and "practicing" but soon it will become just the way I think and communicate.
I need to work on really listening to ds. Title: Re: Interesting what ds29 said to me tonight Post by: qcarolr on February 16, 2013, 10:48:10 AM I get it now. At the moment I am "trying" and "practicing" but soon it will become just the way I think and communicate. I need to work on really listening to ds. |iiii |