Title: Any advice for serving divorce papers? Post by: tiredandbroken on August 26, 2014, 07:58:45 AM My attorney is currently drawing up the paperwork for what I pray will be an uncontested divorce (I know... .but I must HOPE for the best and prepare for the worst). I've been preparing for this for quite a while... .hoping to cover as many bases as possible so that it has the best chance for running as smoothly as it possibly can... .for our sake and that of our 11 yr old son. The one thing that has been my greatest internal conflict is how to serve the divorce papers. I'm not sure if it would be wise to have them served at the house while I am not there... .I may not have any personal items remaining by the time I came home. I feel that if she were served at work a nuclear meltdown would surely occur. I would rather serve them myself but not really sure of the wisdom of that either. I welcome any thoughts or experiences.
Title: Re: Any advice for serving divorce papers? Post by: Rise on August 26, 2014, 08:03:51 AM Does she already know that you are pursuing a divorce?
Title: Re: Any advice for serving divorce papers? Post by: tiredandbroken on August 26, 2014, 11:24:52 AM No she doesn't. I think that she may have suspicions, and it really shouldn't be a surprise, but I don't believe she knows I am actively pursuing it.
Title: Re: Any advice for serving divorce papers? Post by: hope4tomorrow on August 26, 2014, 11:49:04 AM I am in this exact same boat, if I am not around will he wreck everything we own? I hope we get some good advice.
Title: Re: Any advice for serving divorce papers? Post by: GaGrl on August 26, 2014, 12:28:04 PM People have weighed in on this in several ways -- it really depends on what you know or suspect about your spouse's reactions. Some of the ways have been:
-- Private conversation, hand over the petition for divorce -- Ask for therapist's help, tell him/her during session, hand over petition then or later -- Have petition served formally by a third party, at work or at home I'm sure there are other suggestions that will come forward. As to the potential for a rage and destruction of property... .common wisdom here is to gradually remove all important papers, valuables, keepsakes/photos, etc. that you do not want to risk, prior to serving papers. Title: Re: Any advice for serving divorce papers? Post by: goateeki on August 26, 2014, 12:33:55 PM In many states, a party to the action cannot serve process. Consider that your service of a complaint would not be valid service of process. Talk to your lawyer about this and ask your process server. Your service of the papers might mean there has been no valid service.
Title: Re: Any advice for serving divorce papers? Post by: ForeverDad on August 26, 2014, 02:44:03 PM Be aware that even if you haven't mentioned it, she likely has sensed a change in you and that may make her suspicious of something looming. Her thinking and perceptions may be extremely skewed but most here describe spouses who are master manipulators and that means they can sense subtle changes in our attitudes and behaviors.
Probably it is best for a professional to serve the papers. Either the court can have it served (timing out of your control) or your lawyer can hire a process server to serve it. If you can know in advance when it might be served, then you can have a friend nearby to limit her (over)reactions. Be fully aware that then your spouse is very likely to try to position herself as the temporary custodial parent. It is sadly very common for a woman to use false allegations of DV, child abuse, child neglect or child endangerment to emotionally batter the court into thinking you're an ogre or at least default to the mother. She will have intensely emotional claims, you will have facts and documentation. In the early stages the court often is inclined to ignore the facts and default to their usual procedures (typically favoring mothers, but it won't be stated that way in anything written or on the record). A word to the wise... .temp orders generally have a nasty tendency of becoming permanent orders - or an uphill struggle to correct. If at all possible, try to present an overview of the case in the limited time allowed (often just a half hour or so) to get the best temp order possible from the very start. My lawyer said, after I was defaulted to alternate weekend dad, ":)on't worry, well fix it later." Guess what, 'later' turned into two years later. Meanwhile the court's social worker's parenting investigation report recommended I get at least 50% parenting, but court did nothing. And the initial custody evaluation report recommended my then-stbEx immediately lose her temporary custody, but court did nothing. So my advice is to start off, if you can, with the best temporary custodial and parenting order possible. You should already be (quietly) preparing for the separation:
Title: Re: Any advice for serving divorce papers? Post by: whirlpoollife on August 26, 2014, 09:44:44 PM My L sent it by mail, when it arrived h was not home so h had to go to the post office to sign and pick it up. By him signing for it , the start date of separation became official.
Follow the list that FD posted. It will be rough but you can get though it. Title: Re: Any advice for serving divorce papers? Post by: tokyotea on August 28, 2014, 08:50:24 AM you can't serve the papers yourself because you are an "interested" party... .has to be 3rd party server... .let attorney order server...
my ex evaded service of process for 2 months... not fun... .on such a procedural matter Title: Re: Any advice for serving divorce papers? Post by: catnap on August 28, 2014, 10:12:29 AM ForeverDad posted extremely important information. Get positioned the best you can-- then have the papers served. In my son's case a private process server was used because you can pick the day, time and place. Plus, they will notify you quickly that the party has been served. He had her served at work.
You might be able for instance to have her served close to the end of the work day. Your process server might be able to do so quietly by asking for an HR person, or her supervisor, so the actual service can be done in a private setting with support available. Title: Re: Any advice for serving divorce papers? Post by: tiredandbroken on August 28, 2014, 11:39:03 AM This is all very good information. Thank you so much for sharing.
Title: Re: Any advice for serving divorce papers? Post by: Boss302 on August 28, 2014, 12:10:49 PM My attorney is currently drawing up the paperwork for what I pray will be an uncontested divorce (I know... .but I must HOPE for the best and prepare for the worst). I've been preparing for this for quite a while... .hoping to cover as many bases as possible so that it has the best chance for running as smoothly as it possibly can... .for our sake and that of our 11 yr old son. The one thing that has been my greatest internal conflict is how to serve the divorce papers. I'm not sure if it would be wise to have them served at the house while I am not there... .I may not have any personal items remaining by the time I came home. I feel that if she were served at work a nuclear meltdown would surely occur. I would rather serve them myself but not really sure of the wisdom of that either. I welcome any thoughts or experiences. In my state, serving papers personally isn't an option from a legal standpoint - they have to be delivered by a third party, like a process server. Your attorney should be able to consult with you on the best way to make sure she's served legally and protect your rights and property. The attorney usually has process servers that they use. Title: Re: Any advice for serving divorce papers? Post by: birdlady on August 29, 2014, 02:26:47 PM In my state it has to be served by an adult, third party. My attorney used a process server. It was served with a very nice letter stating that I was willing to work it out in with the least expense possible and all the other niceties one uses when one would prefer a cooperative outcome.
Though I filed first, he already had the replacement fiancé and had informed me he wanted a divorce. I was supposed to accept a draft marriage settlement, totally in his favor, that he had drawn up on a legal website. When served, he went ballistic and engaged in 24 hours of binge drinking and verbal abuse. He said he would make sure all the money was spent on attorneys and that he would destroy me. He tried. It's a little over two years later and he didn't succeed :) In my case, I had a "go bag" with some clothes and documents at a neighbors. I didn't use it that day and due to my ex stalling on temporary spousal support, was unable to move out of the marital home for 2.5 of the worst months of my life, but I survived it. He totally did not cooperate. We had to subpoena everything. He lied repeatedly. He played games with DMV and the car registrations. He wrote nasty emails and sent vile letters after I was able to move out. I of course passed them on to my lawyer and did not respond. He never paid a thing on time, though on threat of contempt eventually did. I went NC within a month of moving out (except for court appearances and though attorneys). Funny thing, I know how much I would have settled for if he had cooperated, and because I had to fight for it every step, I got almost 2x as much as I wold have thought reasonable, even after attorneys fees. I will never regret standing up to him through the legal system. It was an important part of my healing. I may not have done this the best way, but I did it in the only way I was able to at the time. Had he known in advance, he would have tried to stop me, so I had to do this without his knowing until he was served. When your stbx has pd traits, anything you do is "wrong" anyway. Sometimes you just gotta do it and work through the blowback. Title: Re: Any advice for serving divorce papers? Post by: buterfly on August 30, 2014, 07:23:20 PM It helped me to think of the divorce like ripping off a bandaid. The faster you do it the less it hurts. Don't prolong the process, and cause yourself more pain. You deserve to be happy.
Title: Re: Any advice for serving divorce papers? Post by: Bellerphon on September 06, 2014, 03:07:17 PM I had the greatest difficulty in serving divorce and discovery papers on my exBPDw. She would claim that I was stalking her and have her address hidden by the courts. So finally my lawyer and I came up with a plan to have my ex served in the parking lot of of the Dept. of Social Services when she was doing her supervised visitation. It was not the best decision but we had to get the legal ball rolling and it took 18 months to get her into court to get the divorce.
The kids have been placed with me finally and we are pending the final decision on the manner of custody. B Title: Re: Any advice for serving divorce papers? Post by: Boss302 on September 07, 2014, 12:26:50 AM I had the greatest difficulty in serving divorce and discovery papers on my exBPDw. She would claim that I was stalking her and have her address hidden by the courts. So finally my lawyer and I came up with a plan to have my ex served in the parking lot of of the Dept. of Social Services when she was doing her supervised visitation. It was not the best decision but we had to get the legal ball rolling and it took 18 months to get her into court to get the divorce. The kids have been placed with me finally and we are pending the final decision on the manner of custody. B Sometimes I get reminded that as hideous as my divorce is, others have suffered worse. Hang in there. |