Title: she died Post by: rogerroger on August 29, 2014, 09:00:23 PM I received a call tonight that my BPD ex wife has died. She had threatened suicide many times, but I think it is much more likely that it was an unintentional overdose. She was never responsible about taking any medications.
It hit me a lot harder than I would have expected. I still haven't told our kids. I told them she was very sick and was taken to the hospital. In spite of all our difficulties and the intolerability of our marriage, I never stopped loving her. I continued to hope that she would receive the help I couldn't give her and get her life under control. Friends and family never really got that I saw our divorce as a tragedy for everyone involved. Even though I didn't hold out hope for reconciliation, I always hoped we could co-parent. At times she seemed to be moving in the right direction. The news that she is gone is so painful. Whenever the kids told me they had a good time at Mommy's, my heart rejoiced. I don't know how to explain to them (they are 7) that the time they spent with her two days ago was the last time they will ever spend with her. I feel selfish for thinking that there are things I left unsaid. Things I couldn't tell her because she wouldn't have been able to receive them without being triggered. I know I couldn't have saved her, though I also know she still thought and hoped I could. I never responded to the texts she had sent me begging me to take her back so we could be a family again - promising to live clean and sober. It broke my heart that she was in such pain. I remember the look of terror in my sister's eyes when I told her that sometimes I wished I could just gather my ex into my arms and hold her and tell her everything was going to be alright. The terror was that I would take her back. I knew it would have been a disaster, but I still felt that way. I regret that the kids didn't get to have the Mommy that everyone wanted them to have. And now all hope is gone of that, even if it was profoundly unlikely. I feel like bawling my eyes out, but that will have to wait until I can bring myself to break the news to the kids. I dread it. Title: Re: she died Post by: Conundrum on August 29, 2014, 09:14:23 PM Your post breaks my heart. I am so sorry for your grievous loss. I am so sorry for the immense task that faces you with your children--when you are also in great pain. I can't find other words. My deep condolences on your loss. I wish you and your children peace in this dreadful time.
Title: Re: she died Post by: michel71 on August 29, 2014, 09:15:59 PM Rog. I can't begin to imagine your pain. The duty of telling your kids... .beyond difficult. You need to do everything you can do to concentrate on the kids. You did all that you could regarding your ex wife. You couldn't save her. Feel your feelings. Cry when you can. Really get it out. Surround yourself IMMEDIATELY with close friends and those who love you. If not already in therapy, make an appointment immediately. Rely on family members or friends who can handle the practical details like funeral, burial, financial stuff. It's all about the kids now. My heart goes out to you. We all are here for you.
Title: Re: she died Post by: Lights843 on August 29, 2014, 09:33:49 PM I'm so sorry. There are no words. Even if you have support there with you please come here for support as well. We're here for you.
Title: Re: she died Post by: Mutt on August 29, 2014, 09:34:14 PM I'm so sorry about your loss rogerroger
Title: Re: she died Post by: Harri on August 29, 2014, 09:38:30 PM Roger, I am so sorry for your loss. Wishing you and your children some peace and comfort.
Title: Re: she died Post by: corraline on August 29, 2014, 09:45:47 PM rogerroger
I am very sorry for your loss . Please know that we are here for you. Sending you and your children lots of love . Title: Re: she died Post by: Ventus2ct on August 29, 2014, 10:05:41 PM So sorry to hear of your loss Rogerroger. Stay strong and thoughts are with you and your children.
Title: Re: she died Post by: Traumatized on August 29, 2014, 10:40:03 PM I'm so sorry to hear about this. It's heartbreaking on so many levels. It's clear you truly loved her and did your best to try and help her. Having regrets is normal, but like you said you couldn't have saved her. Feel free to cry as much as you need to as you go through the grieving process. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your children.
Title: Re: she died Post by: Cocoon on August 30, 2014, 12:34:24 AM I am sorry for your loss, and the anguish you are going through. This time will be a blur. My mother's death was something I had a hard time surviving, and it changed me, in a few big ways. I will pray for you tonight, for calm, love, acceptance.
Title: Re: she died Post by: PhoenixFromTheFlames on August 30, 2014, 12:59:32 AM I am so sorry for your loss Rogerroger. There is a daunting set of tasks ahead. I hope you will feel yourself all the way through them. This is so many things - as you know. Keep checking in here so we can try to help you.
You're going to get through this, PHXbpdfamily.com Title: Re: she died Post by: rogerroger on August 30, 2014, 01:13:19 AM Thank you all so much for the words of support and encouragement.
It seems odd to me -- in the divorce I had grieved the loss of her. If you had asked me yesterday I would have said I was done grieving. But today all that old grief is back again, except more so. Title: Re: she died Post by: Turkish on August 30, 2014, 01:56:49 AM Bawl your eyes out when you can. I can hardly imagine how you must feel, dealing with this, and anticipating how to tell your children. We are all here to support you in any way which we can.
Turkish Title: Re: she died Post by: Ripples on August 30, 2014, 02:22:38 AM Very sad. So sorry for you and your family.
Title: Re: she died Post by: biglearningcurve on August 30, 2014, 02:34:22 AM How horrible sad.
Best wishes to you and your children. I hope you have friends and family to comfort you all. Title: Re: she died Post by: Infern0 on August 30, 2014, 03:46:26 AM I can't imagine what you must be feeling. And it's one of my deepest fears. That one day I'll hear she's gone. Despite it all I know that would crush me beyond belief.
You have to take care of your kids now, mourn her. I like to belive that deep down there is an angel in my BPD ex, I saw glimpses occasionally of something real and wonderful. Yours is in heaven now, her pain is over, live your life to its fullest, perhaps you'll meet again upstairs, and the angel will be fully free Title: Re: she died Post by: freedom33 on August 30, 2014, 04:01:59 AM Your situation sounds heartbreaking. I am so sorry for your loss Roger. I hope you have some support around you in these difficult times.
Title: Re: she died Post by: NorthLight on August 30, 2014, 04:16:28 AM I am so sorry to hear this. So sad. I wish you the best, and know that the community here supports you! Good luck.
Title: Re: she died Post by: Dutched on August 30, 2014, 04:46:16 AM I am so sorry for your loss Rogerroger!
Wishing you and your kids all the strength you need and the comfort of having each other. Please be strong for your children, it’s the 2nd devastating time they will have to go through. Guide them, cherish and tell them the positive side of their mother (how hard it might be after all events). Maybe hard to imagine now, but I am convinced that you, specially you, will blossom up together with your children as you all will find the so needed stability. Title: Re: she died Post by: Recooperating on August 30, 2014, 04:51:20 AM I'm so very sorry to hear this Roger. My deepest sympathies. I wish you lots of strenght. My heart goes out to you and your children. Take good care of them and of yourself.
Good luck in these unfair and though times. Title: Re: she died Post by: Tibbles on August 30, 2014, 05:47:59 AM I am so sorry for your loss and the painful journey ahead for you and your kids. Sending much love x x x
Title: Re: she died Post by: Kwamina on August 30, 2014, 05:48:21 AM Hi rogerroger,
I would like to add my sincere condolences to those offered to you by the others. I'm very sorry for your loss. You are right when you say that you couldn't have saved her but I understand that on an emotional level it might feel different. Telling your children won't be easy, I believe it probably was a good decision to take some time to (somewhat) process what has happened yourself before you tell your kids. It really is a very unfortunate aspect of BPD that certain people with this disorder have suicidal tendencies and some of them end up committing suicide. Whether it was accidental or not, the outcome and hurt are the same. We have some resources that might be helpful for you in the coming days, weeks and months as you try to deal with this loss: Recovering from suicide loss (https://bpdfamily.com/message_board/index.php?topic=301482) It's a self-help handbook for people who have lost someone through suicide. Losing someone you love like this is very tragic, I hope this handbook will be helpful as you try to move on. Title: Re: she died Post by: Take2 on August 30, 2014, 05:51:56 AM :'(
Ugh... .crushing... . I am so sorry for your loss... . we're here for you... . Title: Re: she died Post by: Clearmind on August 30, 2014, 05:54:07 AM to you and your children. You're a fabulous and caring dad.
Title: Re: she died Post by: Skip on August 30, 2014, 06:22:35 AM Telling children that a parent is not ever coming home is hard. They look to us for answers in that moment and we haven't any to give. Nothing is as it seems. We can only hold them and be a pillar of of healthy grieving for them to see and emulate in their own way. I lived through it myself. I feel every word you wrote.
We're here for you. Stay with us. Title: Re: she died Post by: BacknthSaddle on August 30, 2014, 06:30:29 AM I am so sorry for your loss and your pain rogerroger. This community is here for you.
Title: Re: she died Post by: waverider on August 30, 2014, 06:41:21 AM Treasure her memory for your kids sake, remember she was part of creating those kids who you will have the rest of your life to enjoy tome with.
Dont let anyone tarnish your kids view of her, let them have rose colored glasses if need be. It will benefit everyone in the long run Title: Re: she died Post by: whirlpoollife on August 30, 2014, 09:41:37 AM So sorry rodgerrodger, I wish you and your children strength today and in the months ahead.
Title: Re: she died Post by: DreamGirl on August 30, 2014, 10:00:56 AM I am so very sorry for your loss.
I echo everyone else in letting you know that we are here for you, every step of the way. Title: Re: she died Post by: rogerroger on August 30, 2014, 11:28:34 AM I told the kids this morning. The only one who cried was me. My son put his arm around me and offered to get me a tissue. My daughter tried to cheer me up with silliness.
It isn't real to them. They were clearly stunned when I explained to them that Mommy had died. I have read that the way children process grief is often very different from how adults do it. Definitely true in this case. I made a point of emphasizing that Mommy loved them very much. My daughter asked me if I would ever "calm down" (I was crying) and I said of course, but that being sad was normal when someone we love dies. I am pretty sure it will hit them harder at various later times. Once funeral arrangements have been made I'll talk to them about what to expect. But I remember that I first really experienced the surreality of death when I saw my grandmother at the reviewal. Maybe their experience will be different - I suppose everyone's is. I will just have to watch carefully. I have noticed that my son just called out to me just to make sure I was still nearby. Thank you again for all the support. It really means a lot to me. Title: Re: she died Post by: camuse on August 30, 2014, 11:33:41 AM So sorry. Thinking of you.
Title: Re: she died Post by: BuildingFromScratch on August 30, 2014, 12:00:16 PM I'm sorry for your terrible loss. I truly can't imagine what you are going through. I wish the best for you and your family.
Title: Re: she died Post by: heartandwhole on August 30, 2014, 01:01:09 PM rogerroger,
I'd like to extend my heartfelt condolences to you and your children. There are no words for times like this. Please know that we are with you, supporting you through this very difficult loss. Loving arms around you and your little ones today, and going forward. heartandwhole Title: Re: she died Post by: Caredverymuch on August 30, 2014, 01:06:01 PM I received a call tonight that my BPD ex wife has died. She had threatened suicide many times, but I think it is much more likely that it was an unintentional overdose. She was never responsible about taking any medications. It hit me a lot harder than I would have expected. I still haven't told our kids. I told them she was very sick and was taken to the hospital. In spite of all our difficulties and the intolerability of our marriage, I never stopped loving her. I continued to hope that she would receive the help I couldn't give her and get her life under control. Friends and family never really got that I saw our divorce as a tragedy for everyone involved. Even though I didn't hold out hope for reconciliation, I always hoped we could co-parent. At times she seemed to be moving in the right direction. The news that she is gone is so painful. Whenever the kids told me they had a good time at Mommy's, my heart rejoiced. I don't know how to explain to them (they are 7) that the time they spent with her two days ago was the last time they will ever spend with her. I feel selfish for thinking that there are things I left unsaid. Things I couldn't tell her because she wouldn't have been able to receive them without being triggered. I know I couldn't have saved her, though I also know she still thought and hoped I could. I never responded to the texts she had sent me begging me to take her back so we could be a family again - promising to live clean and sober. It broke my heart that she was in such pain. I remember the look of terror in my sister's eyes when I told her that sometimes I wished I could just gather my ex into my arms and hold her and tell her everything was going to be alright. The terror was that I would take her back. I knew it would have been a disaster, but I still felt that way. I regret that the kids didn't get to have the Mommy that everyone wanted them to have. And now all hope is gone of that, even if it was profoundly unlikely. I feel like bawling my eyes out, but that will have to wait until I can bring myself to break the news to the kids. I dread it. I am so sorry for your loss roger and I am sending you sincere condolences. . We are right here for you wrapping you with our immense blanket of caring and support. Title: Re: she died Post by: Rifka on August 30, 2014, 01:23:42 PM I also want to extend my deepest condolences to you and your family.
Title: Re: she died Post by: GaGrl on August 30, 2014, 04:33:11 PM Oh, overpower... .I am so very sorry for your loss and pain. Please know that many people are sending prayers and positive energy to you.
Title: Re: she died Post by: half-life on August 30, 2014, 05:32:57 PM Very sorry for your lost. I'm teary eyed when I read this.
Title: Re: she died Post by: mywifecrazy on August 30, 2014, 05:59:43 PM Saying a prayer for you and your kids Roger. For yesterday may the good memories be the ones that stay with you, For today that you are able to grieve a let it out so you can be strong when the reality hits your kids and For tomorrow that when you and your kids get through this that you guys we be so close and such a tight family able to get through anything.
Peace to you Roger... .MWC *) Title: Re: she died Post by: biglearningcurve on August 30, 2014, 06:34:22 PM Hi Roger.
Was wondering how you were doing and hoping you had a goodnights sleep. Not sure where you live but I am in the Southern Hemisphere, so sending you good thoughts from this side of the world. Title: Re: she died Post by: Stjarna on August 30, 2014, 06:54:59 PM I am heartbroken for you Roger. I really have no words to relieve the crushing pain you must be in now. I live in fear of this daily, as my exhusband also has had several suicide attempts and I also get texts from him for me to please come back, that I am his only salvation. I know exactly you feel, that you just wish you could wrap your arms around them and shield them from their nightmares, but alas, we cannot. Hugs to you. You are brave. Take good care of yourself right now, please. :'(
Title: Re: she died Post by: rogerroger on August 30, 2014, 07:01:10 PM Hi Roger. Was wondering how you were doing and hoping you had a goodnights sleep. Not sure where you live but I am in the Southern Hemisphere, so sending you good thoughts from this side of the world. Thanks for thinking of me, BLC. I probably got 2 hours of very restless sleep. I'm sure you know the feeling: so tired everything buzzes and feels unreal, but as soon as you start to fade out, some new thought triggers a release of emotions and wakes you up. I'll get through it. As I tell my kids, we are allowed to be sad when we lose someone we love. Title: Re: she died Post by: Vatz on August 30, 2014, 07:05:30 PM Jesus... .
I'm so sorry for your loss. I can't begin to understand what you are going through right now. I don't have any words besides my condolences. Title: Re: she died Post by: rogerroger on August 30, 2014, 07:07:16 PM I am heartbroken for you Roger. I really have no words to relieve the crushing pain you must be in now. I live in fear of this daily, as my exhusband also has had several suicide attempts and I also get texts from him for me to please come back, that I am his only salvation. I know exactly you feel, that you just wish you could wrap your arms around them and shield them from their nightmares, but alas, we cannot. Hugs to you. You are brave. Take good care of yourself right now, please. :'( Thank you. Yes, that pain is all-too familiar to me. I know that the only one who could really fight her battle was her, even though she was desperate for someone else to fight it for her. She fought as best she could, but just didn't have what she needed to win it. Filing for divorce required me to accept that it was not "our" battle to fight. I wasn't an equal partner with her, and buying into that view simply fueled the cycle of co-dependence. Title: Re: she died Post by: topknot on August 30, 2014, 08:06:30 PM Prayers said for you and your children, Roger. You have a great support system on this board, since we understand more than anyone what you are feeling.
Title: Re: she died Post by: InSearchofMe on August 30, 2014, 09:54:58 PM Dear rogerroger,
My heart goes out to you. I know what you are going through. Just over 4 weeks ago my darling BPDh took his own life. As much as they wanted us to, and as much we may have wanted to, we could not change how they felt, or fix their illness. It is heartbreaking to have to acknowledge that this illness is sometimes fatal. Big hugs to you and your children. I don't have any great words of wisdom as I am so new to this part of the journey but I am here if you need to talk to someone who is on a similar path. Title: Re: she died Post by: whirlpoollife on August 30, 2014, 10:07:21 PM In the days ahead as the kids try to comprehend death they can get worried that you might die too. If that happens, in reply, keep it short. " no I'm not going to die, I will be here everyday".
Title: Re: she died Post by: Tolou on August 31, 2014, 01:50:20 AM Roger. I am sorry to hear about your family's loss. Take care of yourselves and you did what you could always remember that, your post shows in all the words you use that you still loved, that love doesn't die. God bless you are in my thoughts and prayers.
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