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Title: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Hope0807 on December 21, 2014, 05:29:10 PM
I realize that if you have a parent, or spouse, or sibling, or child in this world…you have some one.  And that some "one" truly makes all the difference in the world.

I'm praying that it's just my first holiday post divorce that the "alone" feels this incredibly horrible.  My most important New Year's resolution (that kinda started months ago, post fallout) is to learn to be okay and happy being alone.  I can't stand how much it hurts, but I know I need to heal.

I attend meet ups, I stay connected to friends and get out of the house.  I have a job, I read, walk my dog, stay busy in a variety of ways... .but I'm struggling, big time.  I really need to know if there's anyone out there who is really and truly alone and comfortably so.  Do you find strength in memories of a parent who was alone and strong?  Did the peace and comfort of "alone" come in time after your fallout with your BPD ex?  Please share if you can.

It is a painful reality to learn how MUCH I invested into the relationship with PD.  I am working and healing many of my own care-taking personality issues.

Exactly how ALONE are you? 


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Infern0 on December 21, 2014, 05:41:16 PM
To be honest I am very alone.

This Christmas day I will be on my own,  I'll probably spend a few hours at the gym. And then I dunno,  watch whatever trash is on TV haha.

But to be honest I'm not bothered.  My BPDEX lost me a lot of friends,  and most of the people left around me went in the great toxic people cull of 2014.

Yeah it'd be nice to have someone,  but I don't,  I am self sufficient and it doesn't depress me.

2015 I start my therapy to eradicate codependency and self esteem issues etc,  it's time to spend time on myself and once I'm the person I want to be I'll start letting people into my life again


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: peiper on December 21, 2014, 05:54:32 PM
Right now very


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: PaintedBlack28 on December 21, 2014, 05:55:13 PM
Exactly how ALONE are you? 

Hope,

I am completely alone. I live like a zombie. I have parents (talk to them through Skype), brother mostly over the phone. I have two kids from a previous marriage - both heavy alienated. I may resume contact with them after my exw severed all  contact  after she found out I had a GF (she would be very happy if she knew she had BPD and how everything ended for me). I have a job, I talk to people at work, but I actually watch it all from a distance. I am utterly and completely alone. Weekends are the worst, nobody  to talk to. I hate the empty moments that  used to be filled with our relationship. Too much time to think, re-think, ruminate. I even miss the abuse, that's how alone I feel. people complain about their pwBPDs coming back into their lives, and I would give ONE YEAR FOR A MINUTE with her again. Every day is a living hell for me.

She left, no goodbye no nothing.

Hope, i hope things will work out for us somehow. If you are too lonely  we can always talk via Skype- just send me a PM.      


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Hope0807 on December 21, 2014, 06:05:49 PM
Thank you Infern0,

I'm working hard to get where you are…"not bothered…and not depressed".  I'm determined to get there.  I've turned down a few invitations from friends to join them for the holiday, but I just can't handle it.  It's not my ex who's no longer in my life, it's my whole sense of family as I had known and grown to love it for the past 7 years. 

I left my own toxic family behind years ago and won't go back in that direction either.  I'm working hard on making sure I'm REALLY REALLY "good" on my own so I can be "great" when I'm ready to try relationships again.

Thank you!  Looking forward to hearing from others in the same boat.


To be honest I am very alone.

This Christmas day I will be on my own,  I'll probably spend a few hours at the gym. And then I dunno,  watch whatever trash is on TV haha.

But to be honest I'm not bothered.  My BPDEX lost me a lot of friends,  and most of the people left around me went in the great toxic people cull of 2014.

Yeah it'd be nice to have someone,  but I don't,  I am self sufficient and it doesn't depress me.

2015 I start my therapy to eradicate codependency and self esteem issues etc,  it's time to spend time on myself and once I'm the person I want to be I'll start letting people into my life again



Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: fred6 on December 21, 2014, 07:04:25 PM
I got divorced back in 2006 when I was 34. I lived alone up until I moved in with exBPD in 2011. So that's 5 years that I was alone. I dated a bit, but never really found anyone that I was that interested in. Looking back, I was perfectly fine back then and I'll be fine this time, even though it can be lonely sometimes. The worst part is getting used to the ex, her kids, and the cat being around all the time, then they are just gone one day. It just takes a little time getting back into the mindset of being on your own again.

For the ones here that haven't lived alone long term, I would suggest making it a priority to get somewhat comfortable being on your own for 1-2 years minimum. One thing that we have to remember is that pwBPD are the ones that can't be alone. If you have to have someone out of desperation, it probably won't work out well long term.

As for me, I'm kind of like a shut in these days. I go to work, to the store, and go to see my 16 yo daughter every so often. That's about it for me for the time being, and I'm mostly OK with it. I just don't want to be around anyone at this point. It is what it is!


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Inside on December 21, 2014, 07:27:09 PM
Hope… same here   After a divorce I had my BPD experience ... .twas like icing on the cake of dysfunction, as I’d spent nearly 3 decades with an anxiety plagued wife.  We’ve two daughters, one living with either of us.  So, technically, I’ve ‘company.’  And, it’s the best kind… a collage attending daughter who actually asks me for advice about her friends, and seems to agree with it :)

But, she’s not always around, and I am.  In fact, having left a job in preparation of selling out & moving on, and when she’s away, I’m both isolated and alone…  :)epression can set in from every angle, and praying hasn’t worked for me.  Though, I actually feel like an accomplished father and former husband, if life were to end right now, I’d be ok with it.  ... .but I’m not dead yet.  Though at times, it feels like it.  

Sometimes it feels like I’m testing myself, and often times it feels as though I’m growing.  Also a year from my BP r/s, I think of her daily…  I’ve tried the meet-up events but they’re not happening where I’d like to relocate so don’t want to connect (fall in love with) someone tying me to an area that’s come to break my heart.  And, I fall in love too easy, as well as appear to be a magnet for disfunction…  My online forays for romance scared the crap out of me as several I’d been attracted to seemed more vishous than what I’d just left!  And I’ve dropped out of the group I met my BPex in, as showing up there and having a couple of beers led to several stupid re-connects…  I do take ‘field trips’ to a location I’d like to be, and have no trouble meeting people or getting invited to join in ... .but I’m not there yet.  Feels like a living limbo

There are times I’m having a blast by myself - travel where, if, and when I want.  Checkout what I want, eat, watch, listen, visit, sleep or stay up as I wish.  ... .and those times when friends describe how much they envy that … while committed to stale marriages...   Both my parents have lived apart and alone for decades, and their cats have become my siblings…  Honestly, I don’t want to be alone, and as much ‘fun’ as I can have, I so want to share that.  Just feels like I’m going to waste … though I vividly recall the same feeling while carrying my wife through life, realizing then she was far from a wise investment... . 

So when friends ask, “What do YOU want to do?” ... .having been a caregiver all my life, it’s a question I can’t answer!  With all I’ve accumulated, what I miss most I last experienced with my BPgf -- the sincere feeling and proclamation that ‘I could live in a cardboard box,’ ‘with her.’  Granted, a big one! ... .with holes for windows and stuff :)   You know, that feeling of ‘all’s well,’ ‘life’s good,’ someone loves me and I love them’... ?  My parents are aging and my daughter’s will be moving on.  Me too, but where?  

It saddens me to notice the woman my age who no longer make eye contact... . That religate themselves to book groups, yoga, or crafts, and surround themselves with cats.  It pains me that there likely lies within them so much more… but that they no longer have either the trust in humanity nor the resilience to be hurt while attempting to find out.  ... .while I fill the bachelor niche, a week between shaving, eating from cans, beer in the morning while staying close to home and well-worn ruts…  Though no cats…  ... .our dog was killed by a bear 17 months ago, as old in ‘dog years’ as me.  

I dance with depression, even dare it.  For months I asked friends and family ‘what they looked forward to in life?’  ... .some likely dreaded seeing me coming, and that seemed a question they’d never asked themselves…  Many couldn’t answer it.  My Sister did, and best, “Sometimes I just look forward to falling asleep at night.”  That was my favorite, nothing exhotic or complicated, just acknowledging the basics.  And though I’m very much alone, I definitely detect growth.  It can’t be forced, as I wouldn’t know what to push or look for ... .but just last night, shutting things down before watching TV, I felt complete, if completely alone.  When I worry about it, it’s a problem.  When I accept it, it works.  I actually did some serious contemplation with regard to whether I wanted anyone in my life or not.  A lifetime of caring for others, from the oldest of four and held responsible for their acts, to decades of care for a dysfunctional non appreciative wife, to an at-home & homeschooling dad ... .to the enabler of a pwBPD, baring the last daughter at home, am I nearly and finally free -- free to concentrated on me?  

I doubt it’ll last, and as mentioned, don’t really want it to.  I don’t want or need dysfunctional, but am very concerned as to whose left that’s not so jaded by similar mistakes and trauma ... .that’s still capable or willing to risk more?  I look forward to returning to work, anywhere.  :)oubt I’ll ever take on another dog… and will continue to dodge cats.  Neither daughter wants to live the direction I’m headed (to the ocean), but I’d like to share it with someone.  Alone can work, as long as it’s never viewed as permanent.  Not much to do with BPD, but I’m real glad you asked


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Inside on December 21, 2014, 07:56:57 PM
I even miss the abuse, that's how alone I feel.

... .first I laughed, then held back a tear...   I talk too much, but that line said so much.  We’re good people - we’ll get through this |iiii

PS, when I'd began my piece ... .no one had responded to Hope, so I need to type faster or talk less, and am still catching up :)


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: MrConfusedWithItAll on December 22, 2014, 03:36:37 AM
Looking within myself I have to admit I could be AVPD - cluster C anxiety disorder.  I wonder how many others here might qualify for such a diagnosis?


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Left broken and confused on December 22, 2014, 07:21:59 AM
I am not sure about anyone else but I can tell you that if I am in a room with 100 people right now I still feel alone


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: whythisgirl on December 22, 2014, 08:55:02 AM
I am not sure about anyone else but I can tell you that if I am in a room with 100 people right now I still feel alone

I feel the same. I actually have my exbf prior to the exBPDbf who is very supportive, caring, and here with me. He hates how the exBPD treated me and wants me back. But I still feel so alone. I have a great person wanting to be with me but I feel lost/confused/broken because of the xBPD. Its a horrible feeling. I'm trying my hardest to look on the bright side of things and accept love from ppl who actually loves me. Just feels like I'm going backwards.


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: clydegriffith on December 22, 2014, 09:44:56 AM
I'm thankful for the group of close friends that i have. It would have been impossible for me to begin healing and carry on a normal life after the pure hell the BPDx put me through if had nobody.


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Rise on December 22, 2014, 10:15:11 AM
I even miss the abuse, that's how alone I feel. people complain about their pwBPDs coming back into their lives, and I would give ONE YEAR FOR A MINUTE with her again.

PB, I appreciate you being so honest. It's not easy to admit things like that.

What I want to know is, how many of us are truly miss our exes, and how many of us really just can't stand being by ourselves? Do we really want our exes back, or do we just need someone to be there? And why is the idea of being by ourselves so terrible to so many of us?


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: DiamondSW on December 22, 2014, 12:15:48 PM
I'm on my own at the moment and it's ok.  I have a lovely gf who has gone home to visit her family in another country for xmas, hence I find myself watching tele and shopping quite happily.  It's been a year and a half since the relationship from hell and i feel ok, but still a bit wobbly and nervous every now and then... .

I feel sad to read the stories on here and just hope those people do something nice for themselves over the next 24hrs... .  cook yourself some nice food, enjoy a walk somewhere gorgeous, basically just take care of themselves. 

Last year I was alone, very sad and very vulnerable.  But this year things are better... .and I'm thankful for that.  My BPD exgf did a good job on taking all hope from my life... .  but when I met a healthy woman, and worked hard in all areas, my life improved.  All it took was time, distance, no contact and remembering who I was and what skills and talents I had... .   

I wish all those people on their own a happy Chrismas and a healthy new year.   xx


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Painterly2014 on December 22, 2014, 05:47:26 PM
This Christmas is very hard and I feel alone and depressed some of the time but other times I feel really good. Maybe some of it is because for the last few years I felt so alone with my BPD that its not that different.  What a sad fact. The thing that bothers me the most is being apart from my daughter this year because its her husbands family turn to have her.

The BPDh has been gone for almost 2 months and after 25 years of marriage its pretty weird to be sitting here alone on Christmas. Going to spend time with my friends and try not to obsess about it.

I think I'm in an ok place for what I have been through and really last year Christmas sitting with him and relatives trying to act normal right after the big s**t hit the fan was harder than being alone. Actually I have felt more alone with him than without him.







Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Turkish on December 22, 2014, 09:28:30 PM
I think I'm in an ok place for what I have been through and really last year Christmas sitting with him and relatives trying to act normal right after the big s**t hit the fan was harder than being alone. Actually I have felt more alone with him than without him.

I can relate to that. My Ex and I have not been together for over a year, yet she finally moved out this past february. I was invited to her family's house for Thanksgiving and Christmas Eve (when they celebrate). Ditto for this thanksgiving and perhaps for Christmas Eve again. I only live a few miles away. I would want to be there for our kids, but I shift the celebrations. I worked a homeless outreach on Thanksgiving instead and got my kids that night. Their family has a lot of pain, but everyone pretends otherwise in order to keep it intact. This is one reason my Ex is the way she is, compartmentalizing. I can't pretend, it's so fake. Maybe in later years, perhaps.

I'm alone, and always was alone. I'm ok with it, even for 2 and 3 day stretches without D2 and S4, because they are always happy to see me. When not here, or working, I've been reading compulsively, as it's my escape.


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Inside on December 22, 2014, 11:58:29 PM
The thing that bothers me the most is being apart from my daughter this year because its her husbands family turn to have her.

Both my daughters will be with my ex wife …the ‘pickins’ are better over there    What bothers me is how their mom, after taking off and leaving me to finish raising them, got married.  Instead, I found a BPD…  So, as her tree’s stocked with gifts and ‘the gang’s all there,’ I’m in the woods recovering from the BPD, alone, again    

But - when my daughter returns, overflowing with stories of drama, stress & anxiety, I begin to smile, knowing I’ll never (ever) have to spend time around that collection of clowns again ... .barring a serious funeral...  :)aughter texted me last night saying she's ‘heading home for a couple of normal days before spending c-mass with them.’  I’m already counting my blessings  

Hey Turkish ... .your kids are far younger than your wisdom belies, impressive…  I just finished reading Blue Highways, by William Least Heat Moon, thirty years late - but worth the wait!  :)eep, contemplating commentary by a thirty-something laid-off college writing teacher having just separated from his wife - off to circumnavigate the USA.  Honestly, I’m tempted to do the same ~


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: maric on December 23, 2014, 06:21:50 PM
Alone to the point where I feel like killing myself.


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Left broken and confused on December 23, 2014, 06:52:55 PM
Hi Maric

I think there have been times that most people feel so alone or depressed that the thought may cross our minds but if you feel any impulse to act on those thoughts then you need to reach out immediately for help. Do you have any friends or family to turn to? Remember we are not along we are part of a group and all are here to support each other. I will be spending Christmas day alone but I am thinking of it as a day just like any other. I will probably turn to this board for some support that day as many of us will. You are never truly alone and I hope these feelings will one day soon pass for us.


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Mutt on December 23, 2014, 07:23:17 PM
Hi maric,

I'm sorry to hear you're having a tough time. We're volunteer staff. It really helps to talk to a live person. I sent you a PM. Can you give the number a call?


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: maric on December 23, 2014, 09:09:15 PM
Hey Mutt and LeftBroken,

thanks a lot for the kind replies. Christmas time is taking its toll on me. I'm at my parents' now, in a tiny town. They are old aged and I really can't open up to them (the problem would just become a snowball of sadness), this is why I am keeping everything inside and feel so alone, though I have them here with me. Of course, I am grateful I have their company. I had a awful panic attack some hours ago and had to keep it all inside. I could talk to a friend of mine through Skype and it really gave me comfort and support.

I am triggered because at this time, last year, I was left by myself during vacation that had been planned for months. And today I saw she's spending Christmas with my replacement. It hurts so much.

I am also so grateful I have this forum. Seeing your kindness gives me strenght and hope.

Thanks a lot.


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Left broken and confused on December 23, 2014, 09:17:11 PM
I too am struggling with seeing him with my replacement. Unfortunately the only family I have is my sister who is a week into her break up with her boyfriend. This Christmas may be full of tears but we will all get through it. I have been very depressed today but I am trying hard to function.  I am dreading all the photos on fb but trying to remember the minute after the photo was taken his mood may change and the holiday be ruined with any luck :)


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Hope0807 on December 23, 2014, 09:55:06 PM
Appreciating all of your posts very much.  But like I said, it's a totally different kind of alone when you don't have a sibling, child, or parent.  That's me…and I can't stand it.  Most of you are writing that you're alone here and there but have children, or parents, siblings.  Those people depend on you in some sense.  It gives you a sense of purpose.  They would miss you if you were gone…and THAT is sometimes a VERY reassuring thought in a very dark moment.  In this healing process I realize how my own fear of being alone helped to keep me clinging to what I knew didn't feel right at all.  I felt incredibly alone with the ex.  I remember thinking that exact thought year after year.  I am grateful to be out, but truly long to be needed in only the way those nuclear family members can make you feel.

Is anyone TOTALLY alone?  No parents, children, or siblings?


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Mutt on December 23, 2014, 10:17:22 PM
Hi maric,

Panic attacks are not fun  

I used to get severe panic attacks. I can relate.

Here's an article. I hope that helps.

PERSPECTIVES: What is a panic attack? (https://bpdfamily.com/message_board/index.php?topic=71498.0)


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Turkish on December 23, 2014, 10:31:49 PM
Hi maric,

Panic attacks are not fun  

I used to get severe panic attacks. I can relate.

Here's an article. I hope that helps.

PERSPECTIVES: What is a panic attack? (https://bpdfamily.com/message_board/index.php?topic=71498.0)

I used to get panic attacks. Sometimes at work by reading this site (no offense to anybody  *)

They are a natural reaction to emotional trauma. Depression is as well. Connecting with support systems like family, friends, or a therapist can help. Being tortured by our own thoughts  isn't fun, but it's a natural phase in the process of detachment. Keep posting, maric, we're all here fir each other  

Turkish


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Inside on December 23, 2014, 11:05:30 PM
Maric ... .I can relate, and battling depression doesn't help... . But lately, I’ve just given in to it, to being alone.  It’s like, ‘yeah, I could be dead,’ ‘instead, I’m alone,’ ‘so what’s the difference?’ - other than occasionally something makes me laugh.  

... .watched what I thought would be a pretty dry documentary on PBS about Admiral Hyman Rickover and our Nuclear Navy last week - busted out laughing over that guy’s attitude on life, and thought to myself - that - was worth sticking around for!  Life is rich, so be the character you are.  

This is a tuff time of year to be alone, but I can verify - there will be millions in a day or two who would pay heavy to be the hell away from their crazy outlaws, siblings, SO’s, kids... .and the commercial hype this season’s come to represent.  

Spring’s coming Maric, the days are lengthening (unless yur down under) - keep us company


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Rifka on December 23, 2014, 11:25:57 PM
Appreciating all of your posts very much.  But like I said, it's a totally different kind of alone when you don't have a sibling, child, or parent.  That's me…and I can't stand it.  Most of you are writing that you're alone here and there but have children, or parents, siblings.  Those people depend on you in some sense.  It gives you a sense of purpose.  They would miss you if you were gone…and THAT is sometimes a VERY reassuring thought in a very dark moment.  In this healing process I realize how my own fear of being alone helped to keep me clinging to what I knew didn't feel right at all.  I felt incredibly alone with the ex.  I remember thinking that exact thought year after year.  I am grateful to be out, but truly long to be needed in only the way those nuclear family members can make you feel.

Is anyone TOTALLY alone?  No parents, children, or siblings?

I sent you a private message, please check your mail.

Rifka


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Inside on December 24, 2014, 12:12:16 AM
Is anyone TOTALLY alone?

Hope… you said a lot...   And yes, I’ve long thought my now young adult daughters are my only reason to keep going…  But, the pressure, demands, expectations and responsibility can also take a toll. 

With several options for company, I’ve again chosen to be alone    Sometimes I just feel like wallowing in it… maybe to get it out of my system, or to prove that I can do it?  My BPex will be surround by family, and ‘friends,’ but she’s more alone than we could ever be. 

Seems everybody battles something ... .I should probably look into SAD, the seasonal depression stuff…  But when my life's over, I’d like to leave a positive mark, hopefully a number of them.  I get the impression that ‘we’ are positive people with a lot to give ... .and were likely tapped because of that by our BP mates. 

We’re good people, who are not only capable but bound to leave some positive tracks in life.  You’re here - and sparked me to ponder these feelings, so I’ll thank you, again.  You count, we all do, but as givers, we expect to see our caring reflected in others.  Never think that because you can't see into all the eyes that you've positively impacted that it isn't there.  And you've no doubt more to give


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Hope0807 on December 24, 2014, 12:47:29 PM
Thanks, all.  Inside:  that last post brought me to tears.  Believe it or not I'm a professional who is confident and put together.  Most of my colleagues and dear friends there have commented on my strength and resilience for the little they do know, and the little they think they understand.  The only place I wallow is here on this forum…and not even as much, with my T.



Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: fred6 on December 24, 2014, 01:01:54 PM
Thanks, all.  Inside:  that last post brought me to tears.  Believe it or not I'm a professional who is confident and put together.  Most of my colleagues and dear friends there have commented on my strength and resilience for the little they do know, and the little they think they understand.  The only place I wallow is here on this forum…and not even as much, with my T.

I'm the exact opposite. I talk to lots of people about this stuff. I find that it helps get it out. Hell, I have a felling some people are sick of hearing about it, haha. Also, I get many different perspectives and opinions on what happened. Everyone will have a different opinion, but you will start to see a pattern. I definitely have.

I'm definitely like Inside, I don't really want to be around anyone right now. A little is OK, but being around people too much is exhausting for me right now for some reason. For me being alone is not the problem, I'm OK alone. It's more the sense that being along triggers the thoughts of what I've lost.


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Hope0807 on December 24, 2014, 01:48:14 PM
fred6,

Yeah I was talking to everyone who would listen a few months ago as well.  The shock, anger, disgust, humiliation, and insanity of it propelled me to talk to others.  How do they receive what you're saying and offer their support?  I'm past the offerings of:  "Be glad you're out"  "It could have been worse, thank god you're safe"  "Now he's someone else's problem"  "There's someone better out there for you" 

My ex has demonstrated callous cruelty that is so far beyond the scope of what I can wrap my head around.

The only kind of feedback that feels right is what my T has said here and there and a friend will on occasion toss in my direction…"He's going to crash and burn." 

Thanks, all.  Inside:  that last post brought me to tears.  Believe it or not I'm a professional who is confident and put together.  Most of my colleagues and dear friends there have commented on my strength and resilience for the little they do know, and the little they think they understand.  The only place I wallow is here on this forum…and not even as much, with my T.

I'm the exact opposite. I talk to lots of people about this stuff. I find that it helps get it out. Hell, I have a felling some people are sick of hearing about it, haha. Also, I get many different perspectives and opinions on what happened. Everyone will have a different opinion, but you will start to see a pattern. I definitely have.

I'm definitely like Inside, I don't really want to be around anyone right now. A little is OK, but being around people too much is exhausting for me right now for some reason. For me being alone is not the problem, I'm OK alone. It's more the sense that being along triggers the thoughts of what I've lost.



Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: NYMike on December 24, 2014, 01:59:19 PM
I have also had thoughts of suicide.So your not alone.

I have done everything I can to heal from this and stay NC.It has been by far a painful ride for me.I use my family,a few friends,life-line,suicide hotline,T and stangers in the street(lol).

I feel so cheated,Lied to,Manipulated,Angry,Used,Led to believe a lot of BS.I feel robbed of money also.I feel like she stole my soul.In many ways she did steal my soul.

I am alone at this point even if I am in a room full of people.I walk around in the FOG.I just have to pray I heal each day and stay NC.

I am not the greatest help right now to anyone but I try to post some things around here.Even if it is letting other people know they are not alone with this terrible pain BPD's inflict on us caring souls.

It is no doubt a VERY painful horrible feeling.

Merry Christmas to Everyone From NYMIKE


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Left broken and confused on December 24, 2014, 02:01:20 PM
I'm at a point of not even knowing what else there is to say anymore.  I know everyone is tired of hearing it and I think I  am tired of saying it. I now just suffer in silence other then when I post here.  The truth is I keep looking for answers and nobody has the answers only he knows the truth.


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: fred6 on December 24, 2014, 02:05:35 PM
fred6,

Yeah I was talking to everyone who would listen a few months ago as well.  The shock, anger, disgust, humiliation, and insanity of it propelled me to talk to others.  How do they receive what you're saying and offer their support?  I'm past the offerings of:  "Be glad you're out"  "It could have been worse, thank god you're safe"  "Now he's someone else's problem"  "There's someone better out there for you" 

My ex has demonstrated callous cruelty that is so far beyond the scope of what I can wrap my head around.

The only kind of feedback that feels right is what my T has said here and there and a friend will on occasion toss in my direction…"He's going to crash and burn." 

I don't talk that much about it anymore. Well, just a little, lol. Most of the people that actually know her couldn't believe that she acted the way she did. They didn't see behind the mask. I've been told that "she's a sociopath" all the way to "she just didn't like you", and everything in between. Most people say that she has a mental problem.


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: NYMike on December 24, 2014, 02:09:45 PM
I'm at a point of not even knowing what else there is to say anymore.  I know everyone is tired of hearing it and I think I  am tired of saying it. I now just suffer in silence other then when I post here.  The truth is I keep looking for answers and nobody has the answers only he knows the truth.

LOL.That is so honest.I wore so many people out with this and I suffer in silence and I have asked GOD to help me every half hour and at night.Not much to say anymore but come here and read and type.I feel you on this one.

I think it is all in the NC and TIME healing the wounds.This is my 2nd BPD Woman and I am in T to why I attract these demented woman.That is prolly the real answer.They come at me all the time.It's like I have a label on my forehead.

This is like a bad f----- dream.It has warped my mind,broke my heart and ripped at my soul.

Hang in there and keep babbling away if that's what you need to do.We do whatever we have to do,to get to the other side.

I refuse to go down with the ship.I worked so hard for all I have and I have to somehow someway keep going and not give up or fall to the dark side.

I hope this helped a bit.We love you around here.

NYMIKE


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: susanleona on December 24, 2014, 02:21:22 PM
I have a sibling and I spend Christmas with her and her daughter's family.  It's fun but I always have in the back of my mind that I'm no ones number one person.  I have an ex who is still a friend but I'm not included in his Christmas as it belongs to his new wife.  There's friends I wish a Merry Christmas to.  I have an ex BPD boyfriend and he is cheerfully alone.  He has recently been ostracized by his family, his best friend died, but he has other Facebook friends and flirts and can always make new ones, and he at least has a job now, and a kitten.  He seems better off now that I'm not in his life and the challenge of having a relationship is not there.


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Mutt on December 24, 2014, 02:44:10 PM
I'm at a point of not even knowing what else there is to say anymore.  I know everyone is tired of hearing it and I think I  am tired of saying it. I now just suffer in silence other then when I post here.  The truth is I keep looking for answers and nobody has the answers only he knows the truth.

You know your truth - hang on to it.

Answers will come on their own terms.

Excerpt
"Everything comes gradually and at its appointed hour" -Ovid

Yeah I was talking to everyone who would listen a few months ago as well.  The shock, anger, disgust, humiliation, and insanity of it propelled me to talk to others.  How do they receive what you're saying and offer their support?  I'm past the offerings of:  "Be glad you're out"  "It could have been worse, thank god you're safe"  "Now he's someone else's problem"  "There's someone better out there for you"  

My ex has demonstrated callous cruelty that is so far beyond the scope of what I can wrap my head around.

It hurts when we're invalidated. I can relate. It's tough



Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Left broken and confused on December 24, 2014, 02:51:29 PM
Thanks NYMike

It definitely did help and I am also in NY all this rain is not helping at all today lol Merry Christmas


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: NYMike on December 24, 2014, 02:52:37 PM
I'm at a point of not even knowing what else there is to say anymore.  I know everyone is tired of hearing it and I think I  am tired of saying it. I now just suffer in silence other then when I post here.  The truth is I keep looking for answers and nobody has the answers only he knows the truth.

You know your truth - hang on to it.

Answers will come on their own terms.

Excerpt
"Everything comes gradually and at its appointed hour" -Ovid

Yeah I was talking to everyone who would listen a few months ago as well.  The shock, anger, disgust, humiliation, and insanity of it propelled me to talk to others.  How do they receive what you're saying and offer their support?  I'm past the offerings of:  "Be glad you're out"  "It could have been worse, thank god you're safe"  "Now he's someone else's problem"  "There's someone better out there for you"  

My ex has demonstrated callous cruelty that is so far beyond the scope of what I can wrap my head around.

It hurts when we're invalidated. I can relate. It's tough

That's it.!... .INVALIDATED... .Mutt can you explain to me a little bit about this.She would not for the life of her validate me on anything.Why would she do that.?.That was and still is very painful.

Everyone knows how well I did right by her and all I gave but her... It's confusing


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: NYMike on December 24, 2014, 03:01:15 PM
Thanks NYMike

It definitely did help and I am also in NY all this rain is not helping at all today lol Merry Christmas

I have to have hope.I went through this with a BPD Woman I was with for 6 years.I was able to break away from her 4 years ago.

That was hell also.It took me into T and I stayed single for 3 years.This new woman ran after me and I just was not thinking.So here I am again.

So I offer hope.I don't even think about the one woman of 6 years.And I remember how terrible it was.

So I think we can get through this together and someday they will be a distant memory like my ex of 6 years.And she really is a distany memory.I went NC with her for 2 years and she called ''private'' and she said hi.I had nothing to say and said bye.I have not heard from her again.

All we have know is TIME TIME TIME and NC NC NC.Everytime I went back for the recycle I had to go through the suicide pain all over again.

I think it's at a point that I run for my life after this last episode.She is disordered and I have to LOVE her from a distance and hope someday she gets the help she needs.

NYMIKE


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Turkish on December 24, 2014, 03:18:57 PM
I'm at a point of not even knowing what else there is to say anymore.  I know everyone is tired of hearing it and I think I  am tired of saying it. I now just suffer in silence other then when I post here.  The truth is I keep looking for answers and nobody has the answers only he knows the truth.

You know your truth - hang on to it.

Answers will come on their own terms.

Excerpt
"Everything comes gradually and at its appointed hour" -Ovid

Yeah I was talking to everyone who would listen a few months ago as well.  The shock, anger, disgust, humiliation, and insanity of it propelled me to talk to others.  How do they receive what you're saying and offer their support?  I'm past the offerings of:  "Be glad you're out"  "It could have been worse, thank god you're safe"  "Now he's someone else's problem"  "There's someone better out there for you"  

My ex has demonstrated callous cruelty that is so far beyond the scope of what I can wrap my head around.

It hurts when we're invalidated. I can relate. It's tough

That's it.!... .INVALIDATED... .Mutt can you explain to me a little bit about this.She would not for the life of her validate me on anything.Why would she do that.?.That was and still is very painful.

Everyone knows how well I did right by her and all I gave but her... It's confusing

Not to put words in Mutt's maw, but I think the invalidation is in reference to friends who mean well, but whose words are invalidating. Saying, "you're better off," or "she was terrible; I knew it from the beginning," and the like are invalidating. They don't acknowledge your feelings of either anger, or perhaps residual love or at least attachment.

I know mine was a bit off. I know she had anxiety, and often presented a fakeness to the world (as one female friend told me). I get that. I was still with her and loved her anyway. I know she was difficult and often abusive. I get that, too. Friends offering me things that I already know isn't supportive, and it's invalidating of my feelings.


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: maric on December 24, 2014, 04:04:12 PM
You know your truth - hang on to it.

Answers will come on their own terms.

Excerpt
"Everything comes gradually and at its appointed hour" -Ovid


I pray for that... .don't know what else to hope for.

And yes, though I have my parents (no siblings), I was in a lesbian relationship and for many many reasons they don't know about it. I just cannot tell then, it's a HUGE cultural issue. So I have to pretend that I'm happy, since they cant know about the reasons to my suffering. I have to keep it all inside. And this makes the "real Maric" completely lonely.

This year was one of the worst years of my life. So much emotional and financial struggle. A lot of lost battles. I feel defeated.

Sorry for the negativity you guys... .I am truly thankful for having you around.



Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Jonie on December 24, 2014, 04:11:06 PM
Hope, you’re right, it makes all the difference if you have a family, parents, children… Even if the relationship is bad, you’re still somebody’s child or parent, part of the fabric of life, it feels. My heart goes out to you…   It’s quite an ambitious goal you set for yourself: ‘to learn to be ok and happy with being alone’ - why not simply ‘learn to be alone’? Being able to share your life with someone is such a fundamental desire to most of us (it is to me), that it is quite a task to do without it and be happy with it as well… I’ll be happy if I’m not unhappy with it




Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Mutt on December 24, 2014, 04:20:08 PM
You know your truth - hang on to it.

Answers will come on their own terms.

Excerpt
"Everything comes gradually and at its appointed hour" -Ovid


I pray for that... .don't know what else to hope for.

And yes, though I have my parents (no siblings), I was in a lesbian relationship and for many many reasons they don't know about it. I just cannot tell then, it's a HUGE cultural issue. So I have to pretend that I'm happy, since they cant know about the reasons to my suffering. I have to keep it all inside. And this makes the "real Maric" completely lonely.

This year was one of the worst years of my life. So much emotional and financial struggle. A lot of lost battles. I feel defeated.

Sorry for the negativity you guys... .I am truly thankful for having you around.

*welcome*

No need to apologize. These are your feelings. It's hard keeping this stuff in and have no one to turn to  

It really helps to talk.

I'm sorry to hear about your parents

Hope, you’re right, it makes all the difference if you have a family, parents, children… Even if the relationship is bad, you’re still somebody’s child or parent, part of the fabric of life, it feels. My heart goes out to you…   It’s quite an ambitious goal you set for yourself: ‘to learn to be ok and happy with being alone’ - why not simply ‘learn to be alone’? Being able to share your life with someone is such a fundamental desire to most of us (it is to me), that it is quite a task to do without it and be happy with it as well… I’ll be happy if I’m not unhappy with it

Sometimes the person we are with make us feel lonelier. At least that's how I felt in my marriage.

Excerpt
I used to think that the worst thing in life was to end up alone. It's not. The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel alone.  -Robin Williams



Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Fly Like An Eagle on December 24, 2014, 05:26:02 PM
Pretty alone tonight... .left my BPD wife for good today and the consequence of that is that I am spending my first Christmas totally alone ever.  At least I have my two dogs with me.  However, I must say that I feel liberated, almost euphoric.  But I also know some very tough times are up ahead, emotionally and dealing with the divorce.

Merry Christmas to all,

Mav


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: fromheeltoheal on December 24, 2014, 06:06:35 PM
Being alone and being lonely are two different things.  I'm one of my best friends today and don't mind time with me at all, and add Christmas activities that I'm only going to out of a sense of obligation, not desire, and I guess I'm in a different place.  So yes, I too am alone, but we have a choice as to what we make that mean.  Merry Christmas peeps!


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Turkish on December 24, 2014, 08:38:35 PM
I chose to be alone tonight. I gave up the kds tonight to honor her family's tradition by celebrating tonight. Talked to the kids' mom a bit. She was happy. I was nice. She pulled out her phone to take pics of me and the kids (to post on her FB which I will forever block?). Everyone was happy I showed up, and disappointed when I left. They had a lot of awesome food lined up. I'm eating frozen pizza,.having some beer, watching a little Netflix, then going to bed early so I can get up early to prep, then pick up the kids to take them out of town for two days.

Though my Ex split me black as a romantic partner (and is still with the Homewrecker), mine actually likes me as a person. Maybe I was being a jerk tonight by leaving? Perhaps I'm being cynical by thinking that being there is me meeting their needs but not mine, but when all I carry is stripped away, they are being nice and genuine while I am not?

Honesty and authenticity are my core values I feel like I'm violating them if I were to spend the evening there with my Ex. It's the Her I saw tonight that I miss a little, but I lied to myself for almost 6 years about the other parts. I can't do it anymore. I won't, though I can treat her with kindness and patience, which I do, while practicing the new skill I learned from all of you: Boundaries.


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Hope0807 on December 24, 2014, 09:02:40 PM
I too chose to be alone.  I had a few invites from a friends and the ex's family as well.  I'd rather be alone than be around people to still feel alone…and pathetic.  Tonight and tomorrow is my choice.  We'll see what the year brings.  I can promise you all that I will find my way to this forum to check on all of you and let you know where I am.  I don't want to be in this space too long.  I want to thrive.

“Single is not a status. It is a word that describes a person who is strong enough to live and enjoy life without depending on others.”

I was THAT whole when he met me.  I want to be that person again.  I will be that person again.



Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Turkish on December 24, 2014, 09:17:20 PM
I too chose to be alone.  I had a few invites from a friends and the ex's family as well.  I'd rather be alone than be around people to still feel alone…and pathetic.  Tonight and tomorrow is my choice.  We'll see what the year brings.  I can promise you all that I will find my way to this forum to check on all of you and let you know where I am.  I don't want to be in this space too long.  I want to thrive.

“Single is not a status. It is a word that describes a person who is strong enough to live and enjoy life without depending on others.”

I was THAT whole when he met me.  I want to be that person again.  I will be that person again.

And we can be again, Hope. My Christmas Wish is that you, me (because I truly don't want to be alone forever), any anyone else when it feels comfortable, make it over to the relationships and dating board someday, or at the very least, qualify for it.     


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: fred6 on December 24, 2014, 09:53:47 PM
I too chose to be alone.  I had a few invites from a friends and the ex's family as well.  I'd rather be alone than be around people to still feel alone…and pathetic.  Tonight and tomorrow is my choice.  We'll see what the year brings.  I can promise you all that I will find my way to this forum to check on all of you and let you know where I am.  I don't want to be in this space too long.  I want to thrive.

“Single is not a status. It is a word that describes a person who is strong enough to live and enjoy life without depending on others.”

I was THAT whole when he met me.  I want to be that person again.  I will be that person again.

And we can be again, Hope. My Christmas Wish is that you, me (because I truly don't want to be alone forever), any anyone else when it feels comfortable, make it over to the relationships and dating board someday, or at the very least, qualify for it.     

I'm there with you guys. Ain't heard a word from exBPD. My ex wife invited me over tomorrow. Don't know if I want to go. May just sleep in.

Anyhow, Merry Christmas to you guys. Have a good one!


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Jonie on December 26, 2014, 08:52:09 AM
To me, Christmas is not the worst, but NY Eve. I had such fantastic NY-nights together with my BPD-ex…! Last year home alone, worst night of my life. So I booked a trip to get away from the memories of last year.

I’m doing much better in general, but there’s something about the atmosphere of these days that makes the memories of our happy times together pop up so lively, as if it was only yesterday.

He has a new relationship now, a replacement, she even looks like me. It doesn’t really bother me (strange but true), but I do wonder how he will organise his NY-party: he has kept her a secret and is messing with her best friend, and he has his jalous and vindictive ex-wife: he can’t invite all of them together, but he can’t not-invite any of them  :)



Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Trog on December 26, 2014, 03:36:26 PM
I spent xmas on my own quite on purpose, I went out for a fabulous meal at a restaurant i always wanted to, watched great tv, played computer games to my heart content and then went out for some drinks with friends. Best Xmas ive ever had. I'm living for me from now on. I will eventually get a new girlfriend but I don't think it would be fair on her while I carry this pain from my ex, it needs some time to work through and im enjoying being a selfish layabout way too much


Title: Re: How ALONE are you?
Post by: Hope0807 on December 26, 2014, 04:54:25 PM
This is good, Trog.  Ty for sharing!

I spent xmas on my own quite on purpose, I went out for a fabulous meal at a restaurant i always wanted to, watched great tv, played computer games to my heart content and then went out for some drinks with friends. Best Xmas ive ever had. I'm living for me from now on. I will eventually get a new girlfriend but I don't think it would be fair on her while I carry this pain from my ex, it needs some time to work through and im enjoying being a selfish layabout way too much