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Title: What a complete idiot I have been.
Post by: Sadly on October 25, 2015, 01:08:24 PM
Hi everyone. Well, here I am again. After all my fine thoughts and words. Totally suckered again. Well at least I still have my new job and am still moving hundreds of miles to a new home but hey, more pain more heartbreak, I feel so devastated and hurt but why? I knew it was the wrong thing to do but I fell for it again.

A few weeks ago my ex realised that I was actually leaving, moving on. I cant say I was painted white and certainly not as many as 50 shades of grey, more a whiter shade of pale really. He actually got me believing that he loved me, that what he felt for me was unlike anything he had felt before blah blah blah. To the extent that I nearly actually bought a house in our home town, and was making plans for a horrific amount of weekly travelling just to be with him at weekends. We booked a holiday at the beginning of December at our favourite place. Wham, suddenly blacker than black again. Constantly shouting at me (he says he doesn't) oh, unless I deserve it! Excuse me? Deserve it! He hasn't hugged or even touched me since the night/morning of my nearly white moment. Said he was keeping me in his life for selfish reasons as we have no future.

Occasionally when we sat together during conversation I would pat his arm or rub his back like I always used to and during one argument he told me he didn't like me touching him, that it made him feel hemmed in, gave him the creeps. Could someone explain that to me? To hear it was like being stabbed. This weekend was one of the worst ever and I was trapped at his dads house 250 miles from home, verbally abused until I vomited and shaken by it more than I have ever been before. His dad is dying of cancer, I couldn't walk out without upsetting him badly. I had to pretend everything was ok when we were all in the room together but if we went out for a cigarette he would round on me again, nasty spiteful digs and then if I cried he would tell me to stop being pathetic and saying he wouldn't have his dad upset. I love his mum and she loves me too. She is in a nursing home with Parkinson's and I promised her I would call in this morning before we left for home and do her nails. Late last night he told me I couldn't go, not even to say goodbye. I said it would hurt his mum more if I didn't go but he told me "don't f*cking well lay that on me. The nastiest thing was when I said goodbye to her yesterday. Even though I thought I was seeing her again this morning I knew that this would be the last time I ever saw her. I held it together with all my strength. She is such a tiny little thing in her chair so I knelt down and stroked her hands, said I would do her nails in the morning and kissed her goodbye. She said thank you for being a lovely person and it broke my heart to walk out of the door.

When he came down and we got in his car he was furious. Said what was all that drama about, kneeling in front of her and stuff. I said I couldn't loom over her and I wanted to hold her hands and look into here face so that she knew I meant it. All I got was "it's my mother, why make such a fuss, you were way out of line and order! For gods sake, I couldn't do right from wrong. At least I had my own car an was able to get away early this morning but he arrived back a few hours ago, if you remember he lives over the road. I got some really nasty texts and then one that said I should be ashamed of myself for acting the way I did all weekend. Don't answer this text with one of your ridiculous essays in fact don't answer at all cos I wont get it "BLOCKED"

Am sorry this is so long, I had to let it out. I don't know how I feel but can someone tell me why I am crying and heartbroken and devastated all over again. Why do I feel like this over a nasty vicious person who has trampled all over me. Does he really believe that I am the person he calls me, a liar and a disgusting human being when I have loved and cared and supported him through all the bad things happening in his life. I am left sitting here wondering what is real anymore. Half of me just wants to actually get out of my life and the other half wants me to carry on. It's scary and horrible. I feel such a loser for letting him back in. Thank you for listening. Again.


Title: Re: What a complete idiot I have been.
Post by: AsGoodAsItGets on October 25, 2015, 01:24:05 PM
Well, thier is nothing wrong with you per say, you could have a mental disorder like me and my girlfriend.  It's possible you could have codependency.   It curable,  but most like myself just manage it.  Me and my girlfriend have it.  That's why we work so well togeather.  I know healing and counseling are probably the best options, yet i have realized this is who  I am used to being and comfortable with.   I realized in college some drugs felt really good, yet that didn't mean they were good for me.  My ex felt better then my current relationship, but the new relationship is functional, predictable, and caring.  Plus we both come from the same place.  It's very loving on paper and a few times a month we do feel in love a few brief times.  We have a family and are children will be raise so they can express all thier emotions.   Yes we do lack boundaries, yet it works.  I'd recommend therapy.  See how much you want to grow, and find a balance that works for you.


Title: Re: What a complete idiot I have been.
Post by: Sadly on October 25, 2015, 01:40:40 PM
Hi, thank you. I know I have co dependency issues up to a point and I will start therapy when I eventually get moved and settled, I just cant believe I went from being so strong to letting myself be hurt again like this. I do love him but I really don't like him all that much and I know I feel very sorry for him. I am glad you have worked together to achieve what you have. Happiness to you both. xx


Title: Re: What a complete idiot I have been.
Post by: AsGoodAsItGets on October 25, 2015, 01:41:47 PM
Well, thier is nothing wrong with you per say, you could have a mental disorder like me and my girlfriend.  It's possible you could have codependency.   It curable,  but most like myself just manage it.  Me and my girlfriend have it.  That's why we work so well togeather.  I know healing and counseling are probably the best options, yet i have realized this is who  I am used to being and comfortable with.   I realized in college some drugs felt really good, yet that didn't mean they were good for me.  My ex felt better then my current relationship, but the new relationship is functional, predictable, and caring.  Plus we both come from the same place.  It's very loving on paper and a few times a month we do feel in love a few brief times.  We have a family and are children will be raise so they can express all thier emotions.   Yes we do lack boundaries, yet it works.  I'd recommend therapy.  See how much you want to grow, and find a balance that works for you.

. Ment will have a family.  Good luck... .


Title: Re: What a complete idiot I have been.
Post by: lbjnltx on October 25, 2015, 01:43:52 PM
Oh Sadly,

I'm so sorry that you have been trampled on again.  In the process of letting go and moving on we have ups and downs, forwards and backwards movements.  Like healing, letting go and moving on are usually not linear.  Sometimes we need to go backwards in order to see a clearer path forward.

Please don't beat yourself up for trying again to make it work with him. You know what your motives are/were.  Your kind gestures towards his mom and dad are not erased because of his beliefs about them or you.



Title: Re: What a complete idiot I have been.
Post by: Mel1968 on October 25, 2015, 01:45:10 PM
Oh Sadly, I'm so sorry you've been through that, it sounds really horrible, brought a tear to my eye, so goodness knows what you must have felt like.  

You absolutely are not an idiot, you're someone who wanted to believe the best in the person you love.

So what is your next step?

Xx


Title: Re: What a complete idiot I have been.
Post by: enlighten me on October 25, 2015, 01:56:05 PM
Hi Sadly

I too am sorry you've had to go through this. I can understand your confusion with the behaviour. My exgf also flinched away from my touch and acted as if she was going to throw up if I said something loving to her. My personal opinion on this is that she had devalued me and even though she had played along that I was still who she wanted to be with she had decided that she no longer wanted me.

As to why you feel so bad theres a couple of things ive noticed with me. Firstly the recycle with my ex wife broke me more than the initial break up. Secondly the reason it hurt so much was that the dream that I had thought I had lost I got back and had snatched away again. I just don't think I had anything left in the tank to deal with this.

I now realise that my two failed relationships had more to do with what I wanted than what they really were. I had certain hopes and aspirations from them and thought that it was what my exs also wanted.


Title: Re: What a complete idiot I have been.
Post by: Beach_Babe on October 25, 2015, 02:28:15 PM
 lol
In the process of letting go and moving on we have ups and downs, forwards and backwards movements.  Like healing, letting go and moving on are usually not linear.  Sometimes we need to go backwards in order to see a clearer path forward.

You did nothing wrong.  HE is the one with the mental disorder.


Title: Re: What a complete idiot I have been.
Post by: patientandclear on October 25, 2015, 02:58:36 PM
Sadly--it is what it is. This guy is bad at relationships! And it continues to play out as it must. I hope you can get back to not taking it very personally, though I know how hard it is to maintain that understanding 100% of the time.

As to his aversion to being touched by you, feeling creeped out: it's engulfment or a need not to avoid enmeshment and to preserve his sense of self. I personally totally relate to this. I experienced with the man I now wish I'd spent my life with, when I was much younger. It was just too ... .Close. Hard to explain, but I needed him not to touch me. We were so close, nothing was bad or wrong. So I can tell you not to take it as rejection in any normal sense. The article on this site called "Why We Struggle In Our Relationships" has a good explanation of how this feels from a BPD perspective.



Title: Re: What a complete idiot I have been.
Post by: Sadly on October 25, 2015, 03:00:27 PM
Hi everyone, thank you so much for your words and support. One thing guaranteed in my wibbly wobbly world is that you, my family can all be relied on. It means the world.

IBJ

Sometimes we need to go backwards in order to see a clearer path forward.



This is so very true. However heartbroken and bereft I feel right now there is a sense of relief because I think I can see that I now can go forward, there is no going back, not again, not after this.

Your kind gestures towards his mom and dad are not erased because of his beliefs about them or you.



Thank you so very much for saying that, I never looked at it that way.

MEL

Thank you too, I was devastated about his mum. I just wanted to pick her up and run away. She has put up with the same behaviour from his father all her married life, he still shouts at her now sometimes, ill as she is. I could not bear for her to know that her son is the same even when he eventually he blames me for breaking up and makes me out to be a monster. The thought of her thinking badly of me tears me apart but I can do nothing and the thought of her disillusionment in me is unbearable. She loves her son and has no idea and I guess that's how it should be. As for what next, I am doing a 500 mile round drive to me new job every week and hope soon to hear if I get my new little cottage to live in closer to work. I have a massive amount of work to be done packing up my house at weekends but am so tired all the time and then me and my little cat will be gone from here and all the reminders. Right now though all I want to do is curl up and wish I had never been born I'm afraid. I have to be honest here I drove my car (sports) like the very devil this morning, mostly at 100 miles an hour for the whole 3 hour trip, and am ashamed to say I wasn't that bothered if I crashed or not. A really truly terrible thing to say but if you cant be honest here where an you be?

E ME

Secondly the reason it hurt so much was that the dream that I had thought I had lost I got back and had snatched away again. I just don't think I had anything left in the tank to deal with this.



That is so true. I had no reserves to fight with. I snapped twice and answered back, knowing what would come but my nerves were stretched to breaking point, hence the worst weekend ever and final break. My hopes and aspirations were made of smoke and dispersed in the same way but oh how it hurts.





Title: Re: What a complete idiot I have been.
Post by: JohnnyShoes on October 25, 2015, 06:29:38 PM
Hi everyone. Well, here I am again. After all my fine thoughts and words. Totally suckered again. Well at least I still have my new job and am still moving hundreds of miles to a new home but hey, more pain more heartbreak, I feel so devastated and hurt but why? I knew it was the wrong thing to do but I fell for it again.

A few weeks ago my ex realised that I was actually leaving, moving on. I cant say I was painted white and certainly not as many as 50 shades of grey, more a whiter shade of pale really. He actually got me believing that he loved me, that what he felt for me was unlike anything he had felt before blah blah blah. To the extent that I nearly actually bought a house in our home town, and was making plans for a horrific amount of weekly travelling just to be with him at weekends. We booked a holiday at the beginning of December at our favourite place. Wham, suddenly blacker than black again. Constantly shouting at me (he says he doesn't) oh, unless I deserve it! Excuse me? Deserve it! He hasn't hugged or even touched me since the night/morning of my nearly white moment. Said he was keeping me in his life for selfish reasons as we have no future. Occasionally when we sat together during conversation I would pat his arm or rub his back like I always used to and during one argument he told me he didn't like me touching him, that it made him feel hemmed in, gave him the creeps. Could someone explain that to me? To hear it was like being stabbed. This weekend was one of the worst ever and I was trapped at his dads house 250 miles from home, verbally abused until I vomited and shaken by it more than I have ever been before. His dad is dying of cancer, I couldn't walk out without upsetting him badly. I had to pretend everything was ok when we were all in the room together but if we went out for a cigarette he would round on me again, nasty spiteful digs and then if I cried he would tell me to stop being pathetic and saying he wouldn't have his dad upset. I love his mum and she loves me too. She is in a nursing home with Parkinson's and I promised her I would call in this morning before we left for home and do her nails. Late last night he told me I couldn't go, not even to say goodbye. I said it would hurt his mum more if I didn't go but he told me "don't f*cking well lay that on me. The nastiest thing was when I said goodbye to her yesterday. Even though I thought I was seeing her again this morning I knew that this would be the last time I ever saw her. I held it together with all my strength. She is such a tiny little thing in her chair so I knelt down and stroked her hands, said I would do her nails in the morning and kissed her goodbye. She said thank you for being a lovely person and it broke my heart to walk out of the door. When he came down and we got in his car he was furious. Said what was all that drama about, kneeling in front of her and stuff. I said I couldn't loom over her and I wanted to hold her hands and look into here face so that she knew I meant it. All I got was "it's my mother, why make such a fuss, you were way out of line and order! For gods sake, I couldn't do right from wrong. At least I had my own car an was able to get away early this morning but he arrived back a few hours ago, if you remember he lives over the road. I got some really nasty texts and then one that said I should be ashamed of myself for acting the way I did all weekend. Don't answer this text with one of your ridiculous essays in fact don't answer at all cos I wont get it "BLOCKED"

Am sorry this is so long, I had to let it out. I don't know how I feel but can someone tell me why I am crying and heartbroken and devastated all over again. Why do I feel like this over a nasty vicious person who has trampled all over me. Does he really believe that I am the person he calls me, a liar and a disgusting human being when I have loved and cared and supported him through all the bad things happening in his life. I am left sitting here wondering what is real anymore. Half of me just wants to actually get out of my life and the other half wants me to carry on. It's scary and horrible. I feel such a loser for letting him back in. Thank you for listening. Again.

Ok... .first thing:

Be Oh Soo GLAD that you're done with this guy. Please please please... its understandable how you feel and perfectly normal, but within a few days maybe weeks you WILL see things clearer, and YOU will be thankful its over.

I'm so sorry you had to go through that.



Title: Re: What a complete idiot I have been.
Post by: EJ on October 25, 2015, 11:50:07 PM
I recently attempted to get back with my ex-BPD girlfriend. Once I cut her out of my life she came back crying, begging for me to take her back & saying she had made a huge mistake. I agreed to work things out, but it only took about a week for her to go back to her old ways. Ignoring my calls & texts. Nearly 3 weeks after I agreed to work things out she called to tell me she didn't want to be with me. I was broken hearted & sad all over again (& still am at time). The truth is, we shouldn't be sad or broken hearted. We tried to fix something that can't be fixed. If he thinks you're a liar or a disgusting human being it doesn't matter, because most if not all of what he thinks is completely false & irrational. Stay strong my friend. We'll all get through this together.


Title: Re: What a complete idiot I have been.
Post by: Fr4nz on October 26, 2015, 05:46:00 AM
I recently attempted to get back with my ex-BPD girlfriend. Once I cut her out of my life she came back crying, begging for me to take her back & saying she had made a huge mistake. I agreed to work things out, but it only took about a week for her to go back to her old ways. Ignoring my calls & texts. Nearly 3 weeks after I agreed to work things out she called to tell me she didn't want to be with me. I was broken hearted & sad all over again (& still am at time). The truth is, we shouldn't be sad or broken hearted. We tried to fix something that can't be fixed. If he thinks you're a liar or a disgusting human being it doesn't matter, because most if not all of what he thinks is completely false & irrational. Stay strong my friend. We'll all get through this together.

Hey EJ,

once my ex told me that, for her, when a relationship ends it's much better for her - from a psychological point of view - to leave instead of being left.

This seems also your case, and I think it might be a general pattern as well, since one of the greatest BPDs fear is the abandonment - so for them it's better to have the upper hand :)


Title: Re: What a complete idiot I have been.
Post by: Sadly on October 26, 2015, 07:00:41 AM
Thanks guys. Am having a really very bad day today so can't write much but thanks. xx