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Children, Parents, or Relatives with BPD => Parent, Sibling, or In-law Suffering from BPD => Topic started by: Finallyawake on June 24, 2016, 01:58:16 PM



Title: How is walking away supposed to work?
Post by: Finallyawake on June 24, 2016, 01:58:16 PM
So after reading “Stop Walking on Eggshells” and “The Essential Family Guide to Borderline Personality Disorder”, I learned that I don't have to sit there and take emotional abuse from my Mom any longer. Instead, before it even gets that far, I can give myself the freedom to simply get up and walk away. Yay!

So, last night, I did just that. I was reading something on my phone when Mom started talking to me. I admit I took a few seconds too long to put down my phone. Mom said that I was being rude. I agreed with her that I was and I sincerely apologized. So far, so good. However, Mom wouldn't let it go. She started gaslighting me, invading my privacy, asking what I'm looking at, saying I haven't changed… and on and on and on.

I decided that this was going to escalate out of control if I stayed in the conversation. So, I said that I have apologized and admitted I was wrong. If she chooses to not accept my apology, that is fine, but I am not going to continue the conversation any further. I walked out of the room and did not come back.

This morning, Mom acted as if nothing ever happened. She said, “I thought we were going to spend time together last night. Do you think we can spend time together tonight?” I said yes. She never addressed WHY we didn't spend time together last night.

Should I have mentioned why, or does she secretly understand that I was not going to put up with her behavior last night?

Also, if she does bring it up, do I simply restate that I am not going to participate in a conversation that makes me feel uncomfortable? What if she accuses me of upsetting her or making her sick by walking out of the room? I don't think she will say either of those things this time, but I have seen her say stuff like that in the past.

I talked to her today on the phone while I was at work. She sounded totally 100% okay and not mad at me at all.

Taking care of my own needs and actually consciously managing my relationship with my mom is so new for me. Any advice would be very helpful. Thanks.


Title: Re: How is walking away supposed to work?
Post by: schwing on June 24, 2016, 02:19:09 PM
Hi Finallyawake,

I decided that this was going to escalate out of control if I stayed in the conversation. So, I said that I have apologized and admitted I was wrong. If she chooses to not accept my apology, that is fine, but I am not going to continue the conversation any further. I walked out of the room and did not come back.

This morning, Mom acted as if nothing ever happened. She said, “I thought we were going to spend time together last night. Do you think we can spend time together tonight?” I said yes. She never addressed WHY we didn't spend time together last night.

Should I have mentioned why, or does she secretly understand that I was not going to put up with her behavior last night?

I find that when loved ones with BPD start behaving in a manner that is unacceptable, walking away is a great solution.  The thing is, I wonder if this sort of takes advantage of their fear of abandonment.  I noticed that when I started doing that with my own uBPD mother, she upped the ante for awhile; I guess they call it an extinction burst.

In any case, I don't know how conscious your mother's behavior was.  Your walking away from her could have been so upsetting to her that she blotted it out of her memory.  Maybe her will behave better to avoid being left behind.  Or maybe the next time you start to walk away from her, she will find a way to escalate the situation to prevent you.  She will either accept your boundary or fight it.  I recommend you maintain your new boundary.

Also, if she does bring it up, do I simply restate that I am not going to participate in a conversation that makes me feel uncomfortable?

I don't think you need to talk about.  Speak with your actions, not words.  Also I doubt she will bring it up except to accuse you behaving badly.  :)on't J.A.D.E.  :)on't Justify.  :)on't Argue.  :)on't Defend.  :)on't Explain.

What if she accuses me of upsetting her or making her sick by walking out of the room? I don't think she will say either of those things this time, but I have seen her say stuff like that in the past.

Give it time.  She might just do those things again.  Just re-apply the boundary. "I'm sorry you felt upset or sick because I walked out of the room.  Period."  If she escalates, retreat.  I would.

I talked to her today on the phone while I was at work. She sounded totally 100% okay and not mad at me at all.

If she does decide to "punish" you, I think it would be for something completely unrelated (at least at face value).  Keep an eye out for that.

Taking care of my own needs and actually consciously managing my relationship with my mom is so new for me. Any advice would be very helpful. Thanks.

I have found that the best allies for maintaining low contact with BPD loved ones is: (1) formality and (2) distance.

Best wishes,

Schwing


Title: Re: How is walking away supposed to work?
Post by: Lam7615 on June 24, 2016, 04:19:34 PM
I find that even if I explain why I am not doing something or putting up with my mom's behavior, she doesn't see or acknowledge the problems with her behavior and I get more frustrated.


Title: Re: How is walking away supposed to work?
Post by: busybee1116 on June 26, 2016, 05:46:16 PM
I've found that my uBPDm takes formal declaration of boundaries incredibly threatening. I wish I could have s rational conversation with her where I say please don't do that and she accepts it and we move on. Or I apologize or whatever and she accepts it without creating major drama. Instead, I just have boundaries and I enforce them like a ninja. If she veers into territory I don't want to talk about or tells me another gory or gossipy story about someone I don't know, I change the subject or end the conversation. It's a little easier for me because she's now 2k miles away and our phone calls are infrequent (we email much more). I don't say, stop talking about X I'm leaving, I make up an excuse. Maybe that's passive, but she does not act or think like a normal human being so it's what works. My excuses range from someone knocking on the door to minor accidents (cat threw up, something bubbling over in stove, hose on in yard and flooding)... .Good luck!


Title: Re: How is walking away supposed to work?
Post by: BabyBat on June 28, 2016, 08:21:55 PM
Thanks for your post, FinallyAwake. I found your post to be encouraging since it is very similar to my situation. I think you are doing great. There are techniques and things to read, but ultimately it is about you and what you can handle. If something doesn't work and you find yourself in a whirlwind, try something else the next time. You are doing good. You've read, you know what you want and you know how to do it, just takes practice! Good thing they will give you lots of opportunities to find what works lol

Keep up the good work!

~ Babybat