Title: These reminders when I start to miss my ex. Post by: Wize on July 07, 2016, 11:15:27 PM www.thoughtcatalog.com/shahida-arabi/2016/06/20-diversion-tactics-highly-manipulative-narcissists-sociopaths-and-psychopaths-use-to-silence-you/
Don't know about you, but ex pwBPD is 20 for 20 on this list. 1. Gaslighting 2. Projection 3. Nonsensical conversations from hell 4. Blanket statement and generalizations 5. Deliberately misrepresenting your thoughts and feelings to the point of absurdity 6. Nitpicking and moving the goal posts 7. Changing the subject to evade accountability 8. Covert and overt threats 9. Name calling 10. Destructive conditioning 11. Smear campaigns and stalking 12. Love bombing and devaluation 13. Preemptive defense 14. Triangulation 15. Bait and feign innocence 16. Boundary testing and ho overing 17. Aggressive jabs disguised as jokes 18. Condescending sarcasm and patronizing tone 19. Shaming 20. Control Title: Re: These reminders when I start to miss my ex. Post by: woundedPhoenix on July 08, 2016, 03:26:52 AM All in all, you can just say that in one sentence:
She isn't healthy to be around. She made it look differently in the beginning, but that was just an impressive self-marketing act, the product you bought is something completely different. Your list is the small print at the very end in the contract we didn't read before signing. Title: Re: These reminders when I start to miss my ex. Post by: Larmoyant on July 08, 2016, 03:39:11 AM All of these except 'stalking'. He doesn't know where I live and it's going to stay that way.
Title: Re: These reminders when I start to miss my ex. Post by: JerryRG on July 08, 2016, 04:25:08 AM That's a good list and my exgf is guilty of them all and yes very unhealthy to be around.
Title: Re: These reminders when I start to miss my ex. Post by: hope2727 on July 08, 2016, 07:56:32 AM All of the above, sigh. How sad.
I hate that he lives like that. I hate that I let myself get treated like that. I hate that I still love and miss him. I hate that I give a darn. Title: Re: These reminders when I start to miss my ex. Post by: gotbushels on July 08, 2016, 08:07:39 AM 16. Boundary testing and ho overing I may confuse someone who is overly ho and testing my clothing's boundaries as someone that really wants me. If this person is attractive should I ignore the other 19 tactics? Title: Re: These reminders when I start to miss my ex. Post by: DreamerGirl on July 08, 2016, 08:12:24 AM Great list and I relate to it all sadly.
My new list : Trustworthy Respectville Affectionate Loving and Kind Generous Kind Honest Reliable Sane Responsible Caring Genuine Interesting Emotionally available That's my short list, but I am trying 2 focus on this to keep me NC from him. It's not easy but I keep focusing on how unhappy he is making me, I just hope I can keep strong and stay no contact with him. The longer we go, the stronger I become... Title: Re: These reminders when I start to miss my ex. Post by: Sadly on July 08, 2016, 11:18:11 AM Hi Fr4nz
I actually just put DITTO but I don't know where it went ! Yes it is s good baseline isn't it, I just have to learn to live up to it somehow. I like the original post, something I need to keep reading to remind myself. x Title: Re: These reminders when I start to miss my ex. Post by: Rayban on July 08, 2016, 11:41:05 AM Another 20/20 perfect score for my BPDex. I could just hope that If I ever come across anyone who shows even 3 of these traits, that I'm able to recognize them and stay away. I also realize that in order for this to happen, I have to be in a better place, and work on some of my own issues. I kept in contact with her despite knowing how abusive, and mentally unstable she was.
Title: Re: These reminders when I start to miss my ex. Post by: ICantFixHer on July 08, 2016, 11:46:13 AM The fact I even *think* about my BPD ex baffles me. I am working very hard to condition myself to remove the words "her" and "she" from my vocabulary for the time being so as to stay focused and in the moment. I refuse to let my psyche become a tool of hers, something to be played with.
When I first met the skunk in 2006, her little statement on her MySpace page said: "I like messing with people's minds." Talk about a red flag. Thanks for the list of absolutely unacceptable and, frankly, ridiculous behaviors I accepted from the skunk for 10 years. Never hurts to have a reminder. All I know is I am never, ever going back. I see her this weekend to get the last of my belongings from our old house. After that it's a total disconnect. Any contact from her is seen for the truth: a way for her to manipulate herself back into my reality. Never gonna happen. Title: Re: These reminders when I start to miss my ex. Post by: Wize on July 08, 2016, 01:31:20 PM Skunk: a cute little bigger that leaves an awful stink in their wake. Avoid at all costs.
My folks had a family of skunks set up a den beneath their house. After the pests were removed, all the floor joists and framing had to be replaced to get the stink out. Skunks are terrible. Title: Re: These reminders when I start to miss my ex. Post by: ICantFixHer on July 08, 2016, 01:42:07 PM I got hurt so, so bad; writing these words to music helped me a little.
The Skunks Three or four o’clock is when the skunks come out Three or four of them crunching like bones the cat food I set out What did I set out to achieve With the skunks Three or four of us were talking about the skunks One guy in particular didn’t really like them much He said he got one and dumped her At the turnout on California 18 Freed her from her trap And maybe just perhaps gave her a fighting chance To survive the wounds And to make her move But until the end dear lord Don’t leave her abandoned You can take away your cross But the faith remains mine I’m immune to the artifice Of us over time Us over time Speaking of time Three or forty days have passed since I’ve seen the skunks I’m not even sure I really miss them all that much But I’ll remember them In a rainbow translucent bubble And at my feet is the hard bare ground and the memory of the stripe upon her head Grey hairs fading to red Like the blood my poor heart bled Lord she fouled me with her scent And left me abandoned You can take away your cross But the faith remains mine I’m immune to the artifice Of you over time And left you abandoned Left me hanging out to dry my clothes From the stench of your soul Title: Re: These reminders when I start to miss my ex. Post by: once removed on July 08, 2016, 05:29:51 PM Wize,
i notice this link (i read it) refers to "narcissists, sociopaths, and psychopaths" (not borderlines) and presents a pretty malicious narrative. you mentioned recently similar material from another site. its pretty inflammatory stuff in terms of fueling ones anger and hurt, and im wondering if its healthy or helpful reading stuff that tells you that your ex conned you; i know it can certainly feel that way. why not pick two or three items from the list, how did they effect you and the relationship? at what point in the relationship did you notice them? Title: Re: These reminders when I start to miss my ex. Post by: rj47 on July 08, 2016, 09:20:34 PM I kept the reminders close for a long time; recorded audio of her rage sessions.
A few seconds listening (out of hours long rants) would cause my stomach to churn with high anxiety setting my head right every time as my consciousness screamed What the heck! I haven't listened in a long time. I've considered sharing with my SO. Better to leave it where it belongs and continue to cherish the freedom that real love without fear offers. Title: Re: These reminders when I start to miss my ex. Post by: Wize on July 08, 2016, 09:49:37 PM Wize, To be honest, I'm angry. And I 100% believe my ex conned me. Maybe her con game wasn't from the very start but I assure you, she's very cunning, deceitful and dishonest. I don't believe a pwBPD has no conscience, so my ex knows the difference between right and wrong. She just didn't care.  :)id I mention she's also a lawyer. She's highly skilled in the fine art of twisting facts to her advantage.i notice this link (i read it) refers to "narcissists, sociopaths, and psychopaths" (not borderlines) and presents a pretty malicious narrative. you mentioned recently similar material from another site. its pretty inflammatory stuff in terms of fueling ones anger and hurt, and im wondering if its healthy or helpful reading stuff that tells you that your ex conned you; i know it can certainly feel that way. why not pick two or three items from the list, how did they effect you and the relationship? at what point in the relationship did you notice them? I don't choose the articles I share based on how malicious they are. I choose them based upon how the resonate with me. And yeah, some of the articles that resonate with me don't paint the prettiest picture of pwBPD. I understand that BPD is a disorder and much of the behavior we see from our pwBPD are related to unconscious use of the ingrained defense mechanisms. But I refuse to not hold my pwBPD accountable. Please understand, I'm not where you are in the healing/detachment process. I'm still pretty raw. And I'm not trying to incite anger among the members here at bpdfamily. Not even close. But there's a pretty noticeable contrast between the emotional state of the members here and some of the mod team. I appreciate you trying to direct my detachment process using knowledge and perspective you've gained from your own healing. Maybe you never went through the anger process, maybe you had nothing to be angry about regarding your breakup, I don't know because it doesn't seem like you relate to my anger. Title: Re: These reminders when I start to miss my ex. Post by: once removed on July 09, 2016, 12:18:48 PM Wize,
nothing inherently wrong with anger my friend, its one of the stages of grief. it can be used to get one over the hump of depression. sure i had an anger phase (a few of them), and more than my share to be angry about. we all do. you are right to hold her accountable, she is an adult, responsible for her actions, and even if she werent, your anger would be no less valid. I don't choose the articles I share based on how malicious they are. I choose them based upon how the resonate with me. i think thats my point here Wize, people often do the same thing with their news, and that doesnt make it accurate. to be frank, the facts of the disorder, the facts of our relationships, from a clinical and accurate standpoint are more than enough to be angry about; theyll resonate, too. your detachment is yours to direct. i would only encourage you away from junk psychology and lumping BPD in with other disorders; the internet abounds with urban legends, lumps disorders together, baits its readers with language that will resonate and inflame; its more insidious than "not painting a pretty picture". its a complicated area to navigate. i encourage you to explore this link: Which online resources are reputable and which are not? (https://bpdfamily.com/message_board/index.php?topic=161211.0) as far as relating to your anger, it helps to inform and explore it as we feel it. so why not pick a few items from that list, and lets talk about it? |