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Title: Can you make them feel your pain
Post by: whoboyboyy on June 30, 2025, 02:46:22 PM
Hi guys. My ex and I started talking again after a few years. She gives me no time, though she’ll say she misses me, and the days we were together. Makes jokes about not fully being able to leave me. Even told me I should come visit. Then she disappears. This has been going on since fall, she had just reached out again after a few months of nothing. She also keeps telling me she has no phone and I feel like she keeps me at a distance. It tears me up cause I can see her active and she either leaves me on read or doesn’t even read my message and it hurts. I’ve been genuine, I told her I’d love to talk again and I miss her but all I seem to be worth is a few messages a day if that. What is going on? My heart is getting torn apart over this.  I’ve told her so many times it hurts but I feel like she just says what I wanna hear, and I don’t want to make a fool of myself. Just yesterday she told me to come visit, and then left me on read over a day. It’s killing me and she is all that I can think about my heart is hurting. I really need advice. I think I upset her by telling her I figured I she hated me and wanted me dead, and told her I thought of removing the tattoo I had for her when she told me she still had my name tattooed. I've thought about it and I'm down playing the game. It's obvious she is toying with me and I hate myself for letting it drag on, I've made a total ass of myself once again, three years later. I just want to know if there is anyway to make her feel my pain, I want her to understand how worthless she made me feel and I want it to hurt her just as she hurts me. If she even replies I'm done answering I just hate this feeling. It's not fair she gets to ruin me and move on like it never happened




Title: Re: Can you make them feel your pain
Post by: HoratioX on July 01, 2025, 02:30:42 AM
Okay, a few things:

1) What you're experiencing, many, many exes of people with BPD (or CPTSD, anxiety, etc.) have experienced. You have genuine feelings, so they're going to be hurt. You're being sincere, so when you're lied to or manipulated, it will feel like a betrayal. You hold out hope for reconciliation because your feelings are genuine.

2) It's possible she has genuine feelings but is halting or uncertain owing to her mental illness. It's also possible she's manipulating you, getting what she wants -- attention, a knight in shining armor, knowing someone cares about her, etc. -- merely from dangling herself before you to see you react. Once she gets that, she doesn't need any more and is done until time passes and she needs that hit again. That's not an unusual pattern with people like this either.

3) It's possible she may feel the pain she's causing you, but doubtful. People with this sort of mental illness certainly can feel guilt, empathy, and the like, but that rarely if ever stops the mental illness from doing things that cause pain for others. If they're comorbid with other mental illnesses or personality disorders, like narcissistic personality disorder or even sociopathy, their capacity to feel anything resembling ordinary human warmth and empathy is diminished further. So, if your goal is to make them feel your pain, that's not likely possible. (Keep in mind, too, that they may already be in pain from their condition, and that pain may be so great, it interferes with the capacity to feel pain for others -- empathy.)

4) You certainly should discuss this situation with a professional, who may or may not agree with what I've written and who may well have much better advice. That said, I advise people to stay away from people with BPD (etc.), especially if they're exes. With someone with a healthy mental condition, it may be possible to reconcile or rekindle a past love. But with someone with BPD (etc.), it's far more likely they will merely fall back into the same toxic patterns that led to the relationship falling apart in the first place. Yes, someone with BPD (etc.) can get treatment, but BPD can't be cured. The best that can be hoped for is remission, and that takes enormous effort on their part and there are no guarantees how long it will last.

5) If you find yourself unable or unwilling to remove yourself from her sphere of influence, you may have drifted into the realm of codependency. That is, you know being with her is toxic and unhealthy, and yet you are driven to ignore your own safety and peace of mind in order to be with her. If that is the case, I'd again encourage you to consult a therapist. It's certainly normal to yearn for love and to remember the good times with someone. But once we're aware of how damaging such a relationship can be, we should be able to stay away from it, painful as that might be at first.

Whatever your choose, good luck to you. Don't put yourself down or feel foolish. You're human. Focus on getting better.