Title: Desperately want out but scared Post by: Inneedofhelp on April 05, 2017, 03:14:19 PM I have just recently realized my spouse has all signs of BPD. While this has allowed me to understand there are reasons for his erratic and rageful behavior, it has spiraled to this point where I need to take the next steps. We have been physically separated for almost 6 years, but he is constantly finding ways to stay or be at my house-supposedly seeking comfort and to be near our 2 children (ages 8 and 12). We tried marriage counseling (she was one who suggested to me individually of his probable BPD diagnosis) but he would not actively try the tools our therapist suggested and it has been 6 years of conflict-just the last few months it has become overwhelming. I finally started the divorce process-I thought we had agreed to mediation at the time, but his rage and fears of abandonment have taken over so only my paperwork has been filed. The lawyer, not understanding how volatile this situation is, suggested to just serve him instead of trying to handle it peacefully together. I am scared of the rage that will definitely come if done this way. Last week I saw a ray of hope when spousewBPD said he would go to finish papers and "let me go"... .but that was immediately followed with a rage episode and a cancelled appt.
He says that this affects him so deeply because it will take his kids away from him, but what he can't see through his BPD (and maybe narcissism) is that his erratic behaviors are more removing him. I am willing to have joint legal custody, but lawyer suggested sole physical custody because I have stable living situation-he will freak out about that. As much as I try to shield the kids from his behaviors, I know this has to be affecting them. Lately he is so angry all the time, and shows up at my house in middle of night and insists kids can't hear the awful things he says to me. I know not best to do but there have been times where I told him I might need to get police help if he didn't stop because I feel threatened and alone, and he has rage violently in words about how that wouldn't end well. Title: Re: Desperately want out but scared Post by: Anonymous0991 on April 05, 2017, 04:10:42 PM Ohh my heart goes out to you! I'm such a similar spot right now except ours are three and five. And we've only been apart for a few weeks. But otherwise, everything would go in my story! I'll be following this, but I just want to say I'm so sorry for what you're going through, and to stay strong!
Title: Re: Desperately want out but scared Post by: Inneedofhelp on April 05, 2017, 04:54:49 PM @anonymous0991 Thank you for the support-I too wouldn't wish this on anyone else. What are you doing to help you? I have been so alone in this for so long, but am afraid to involve anyone else. I was just reading about FOG (fear, obligation, guilt) in a resource on emotional blackmail on this site. I fit in to all of that. They outline steps to take but it's scary when they say if it doesn't work you need a safety plan. We dont deserve this. Sending hugs.
Title: Re: Desperately want out but scared Post by: ForMySon on April 05, 2017, 06:04:04 PM One of the things that's helped me the most in being here is that we all have a very similar story. I remember when i first started reading things here I was blown away. I could remember those exact stories happening in my house. It really is comforting to be here knowing that the people here are struggling with the same issues, because it seems to never end. I've found it a great place to vent as well, and have gotten amazing feedback from the community here.
Title: Re: Desperately want out but scared Post by: Inneedofhelp on April 05, 2017, 06:38:21 PM @formyson Yes, it has provided some comfort. Please share any resources that have helped. I'm am trying to come out of my fog, and not let this destroy me. I am stronger at times than others, but I know I can't just let it keep happening in the same way for much longer. I don't want to involve my family because it would cause them so much stress and want to take immediate legal/police action to protect me but that could make it worse, especially on the children.
Title: Re: Desperately want out but scared Post by: ForMySon on April 05, 2017, 07:59:03 PM I read stop walking on eggshells and i hate you don't leave me while trying to work on things.
I read splitting which will provide considerable help with what's to come. I continued using the couple's counselor so i didn't have to explain what i was going through. She had quit going by that time anyway. She has helped me to direct my focus. Family and friends will be vital during this time. You will need all the support you can get. This road is extremely tough. It's one of the hardest things I've ever done. Title: Re: Desperately want out but scared Post by: flourdust on April 06, 2017, 04:17:02 PM One piece of advice I'm going to give you is to change lawyers. You need a lawyer who understands and has experience in high-conflict divorces. You will get steamrolled during this process otherwise - your BPD husband is likely to get much, much more adversarial during divorce.
Title: Re: Desperately want out but scared Post by: ForeverDad on April 09, 2017, 10:50:01 PM As flourdust emphasized, you need a lawyer who is equipped, prepared and capable to go to trial if necessary. Sorry, virtually all that find their way here to the Family Law, Divorce and Custody board cannot succeed with a lawyer who specializes in forms filing and hand holding. Yes, all lawyers, and courts too, prefer and even push for mediation and settlement agreements but you can't afford to lock yourself into those limited scenarios. Major hearings and trials are a fact of life with most of us who have high conflict cases. For that we need problem solving, proactive lawyers. We need a variety of strategies at hand because some will work and some won't depending on the situation. We need a lawyer with experience to keep the important issues in mind so a hearing or trial doesn't drift off course and get nothing accomplished. We need a lawyer who can call the emotional claims and BS from the Ex for what it is. We walk in with documentation and logic, Ex walks in with emotional claims and negative advocates, we need every advantage we can get. A lawyer who is out of his/her depth is not who we need. Of course, don't expect your lawyer to know all the psychological diagnostic labels or agree with every detail you want brought to the court's attention — my lawyer just called my ex #!#! crazy and at court skipped some of the less consequential complaints — but he knew overall how to handle the case.
Title: Re: Desperately want out but scared Post by: Inneedofhelp on April 09, 2017, 10:57:55 PM I understand about the lawyer, but I don't have the money for that and right now he is not even filling out the initial forms let alone trying to get something. I have the stable job, home and plenty of references. He has no money, not even a stable job and he rents a place with a roommate that would not be considered a home. I wasn't planning on trying anything extreme because he is ok with the kids, and I don't expect child support-I've been making it on my own for years. I just want to finally say he is my ex and get that distance between us.
Title: Re: Desperately want out but scared Post by: ForeverDad on April 10, 2017, 04:32:42 PM So you need (1) parenting schedule, (2) custody defined to handle major issues and (3) divorce. Perhaps also an RO or PO to keep him off your property except for exchanges and perhaps even then make sure they're done at the street or some other location. Right? Which comes first?
A lot of this is setting boundaries, probably you've already set boundaries for visitation schedule, etc. Also, you may want to do this in stages. If nothing is in writing except for assorted emails or other communications, then maybe a parenting/visitation schedule is a place to start. Perhaps combine in who has which sorts of custody voice. Once you have it fleshed out to what you think will work long term, then have it reviewed by a family law attorney (lawyer). Edit to incorporate the needed changes. Once you have that and the two signatures and he is more or less following it, then you can seek to have it filed with the court. That may be part of a divorce filing. I guess what I'm saying is to get the less triggering things done first, if possible.
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