Title: So when do they let go? Post by: MeandThee29 on June 04, 2018, 04:07:19 PM A therapist said it would happen when interacting with me was no long satisfying and/or when he emotionally decided to settle where he now lives, perhaps even finding someone else. I think that both have happened now.
Thoughts? Title: Re: So when do they let go? Post by: Insom on June 04, 2018, 06:08:32 PM That's a super-interesting question, MeandThee.
How does it make you feel to know your ex may be approaching the let-go point? Title: Re: So when do they let go? Post by: MeandThee29 on June 04, 2018, 09:43:15 PM That's a super-interesting question, MeandThee. How does it make you feel to know your ex may be approaching the let-go point? I feel sadness. Not crushing sadness, but acceptance. I held a glimmer of hope that things were turn around for a long time, and still pray for a miracle. Title: Re: So when do they let go? Post by: Insom on June 05, 2018, 09:06:47 AM Excerpt I feel sadness. Not crushing sadness, but acceptance. I held a glimmer of hope that things were turn around for a long time, and still pray for a miracle. This sounds like a poignant mix. FWIW, while I felt some grief toward the end of my relationship with BPD-ex, by the time I was ready to leave him I felt so angry and was so eager to escape the relationship that there wasn't any room for sadness which may partly be why I'm here now . . . to feel sadness that I couldn't access back then. This idea of letting go is an interesting one. You are wondering if he's reached the let-go point. How about you? Have you let go? What does letting go look and feel like for you? Title: Re: So when do they let go? Post by: Wicker Man on June 05, 2018, 10:03:10 AM Excerpt This idea of letting go is an interesting one. You are wondering if he's reached the let-go point. How about you? Have you let go? What does letting go look and feel like for you? As far as I know my ex fiancé is still wearing our engagement ring and waiting for me to return. We have not spoken in 6 months. At the end of her longest and worst rage she broke our engagement. After absorbing this (and a minor breakdown) I agreed with her that we should end the relationship. We had a final call, in which she said 'So we will never speak again?' I answered 'yes'. A lot of tears and pain on both our parts but a definite air of finality. My therapist said this sort of denial can go on for quite a long time for some individuals suffering from BPD. I asked him directly how long, and he said it depends on the individual and the circumstances. For my part slowly but surely I am beginning to accept she is no longer part of my life -it has not been easy. She left a big hole in my heart which is difficult to fill. Wicker Man Title: Re: So when do they let go? Post by: MeandThee29 on June 05, 2018, 10:55:52 AM I found this to be very helpful, both early on and then when I re-read it recently:
www.https://bpdfamily.org/2010/12/leaving-person-with-borderline_28.html I can't remember at this point how many times he said "this is it." When you repeatedly tell a partner that and say you're never going to speak with them again, and then do it over-and-over, it has to create damage on both sides. This sentence from that essay spoke to me: Each successive break-up increases the dysfunction of relationship and the dysfunction of the partners individually - and opens the door for very hurtful things to happen. You end up with shattered trust and diminished hope. At one point I thought that a counsellor might be able to see us through it because I was seeing someone who was part of a team who had restored dozens of marriages, but he refused that type of help. We just went deeper and darker with no accountability. I had months and months of counselling with multiple individuals who are experienced with this sort of thing and am in a better place than I was. As horrible as it was, it has brought me to a good place in my life. I was angry and outraged for a time, but I'm just sad now. Title: Re: So when do they let go? Post by: Wicker Man on June 05, 2018, 12:04:08 PM Each successive break-up increases the dysfunction of relationship and the dysfunction of the partners individually - and opens the door for very hurtful things to happen. Excerpt You end up with shattered trust and diminished hope. @MeandThee29 I completely agree. Once a relationship dissolves it can never go back to what it was. The only hope moving forward and reconciling would be to observe the past, learn from it and re-build a new foundation. This is difficult and heavy lifting in the best of circumstances. I should imagine with a BPD partner it would be even more perilous because of the underlying abandonment issues. -I cannot imagine what a reconciliation attempt might look like at this point with her. The word disastrous comes to mind... . Excerpt I was angry and outraged for a time, but I'm just sad now. I certainly feel a lot of sadness. Even if it was misguided -the sadness is for the lost potential I saw in the relationship. Excerpt As horrible as it was, it has brought me to a good place in my life. These are encouraging words! Slowly but surely I am working toward being able to say the same. If feel somehow my experience with BPD has been a loss of innocence. It has certainly given me a lot to process. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Wicker Man Title: Re: So when do they let go? Post by: MeandThee29 on June 05, 2018, 01:41:51 PM Each successive break-up increases the dysfunction of relationship and the dysfunction of the partners individually - and opens the door for very hurtful things to happen. @MeandThee29 I completely agree. Once a relationship dissolves it can never go back to what it was. The only hope moving forward and reconciling would be to observe the past, learn from it and re-build a new foundation. This is difficult and heavy lifting in the best of circumstances. I should imagine with a BPD partner it would be even more perilous because of the underlying abandonment issues. -I cannot imagine what a reconciliation attempt might look like at this point with her. The word disastrous comes to mind... . Yes, you have to bury the "you always" and "you never" phrases and accept what you have and go from there. My counsellor said that the toughest part of helping a couple to reconcile is getting them to focus on the present and accept each other in a healthy way. |