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Title: Recordings
Post by: dtkm on December 21, 2023, 07:19:11 AM
I feel like I have seen mention of this on here, but am not technology savvy, so am not sure how to search the site for this, but...does anyone know if there is a way to always be recording on your phone (iPhone)? 


Title: Re: Recordings
Post by: SaltyDawg on December 21, 2023, 11:23:04 AM
I feel like I have seen mention of this on here, but am not technology savvy, so am not sure how to search the site for this, but...does anyone know if there is a way to always be recording on your phone (iPhone)? 

I have an android, and I posted specifics to an Android over a year ago on this thread:  https://bpdfamily.com/message_board/index.php?topic=354091.msg13181755#msg13181755

Also, if you feel the need to record 24/7 get a dedicated device, with removable memory cards (iPhone doesn't have removable memory cards) and come up with a system to store and archive.  Use the smallest size as it only needs to be legible for a court, I have written a bunch of good tips for documenting in my previous post, as using my phone has had issues in spite of the excessive planning to use it and preventing issues.


Title: Re: Recordings
Post by: dtkm on December 21, 2023, 12:38:09 PM
Thank you!


Title: Re: Recordings
Post by: EyesUp on December 21, 2023, 01:11:09 PM
I feel like I have seen mention of this on here, but am not technology savvy, so am not sure how to search the site for this, but...does anyone know if there is a way to always be recording on your phone (iPhone)? 

Short answer:  Yes, use the Voice Recorder app.  Once you start a session, the app will record continuously until the battery is dead and/or you run out of storage.

Long answer:  For a time, I used a 3rd party DVR (digital voice recorder) purchased on Amazon for a few bucks.  It was highly rated, cheap, and had lots of storage.  It could remain in my pocket while I used my phone, without risk of accidentally ending a session.  It recorded in MP4 format, which generally creates small file sizes and is easy to transfer.   The challenge with the stand-alone DVR is that it needs to be charged, and requires some focused attention to maintain and backup, vs. the upside of the iPhone - which is always with you anyway... 

Fast forward - I went through 2 DVRs which failed or broke for various reasons.  At this point, I picked up an old iPod touch, with a ton of memory.  The iPod touch is basically a mini iPhone. In addition to logging the time of each new session, it also automatically logs the location in the file name (e.g., "home" or "main street") - which could be useful.  It includes a built-in editing function which can be great for duplicating files and then cutting them to only the most relevant segments.  And it can be backed up to iCloud or directly to a Mac or PC - so you can manage storage and backups in a familiar way.

I live in a 2-party consent state, so secretly recording anyone is technically against the law - be sure you know your local laws.  However I worry about false accusations - and after a lot of research, I've never found a case where a recording led to legal consequences or penalties in a family law case - remember, the primary point of doing this is defensive - you only disclose the existence of a recording to a) dispute a false accusation, b) negotiate with opposing counsel to avoid litigation, or maybe c) diminish opposing counsel and/or the credibility of their client with evidence.  I'll add d)  play back clips to yourself to diffuse gaslighting attempts ("did I say that?  wait, let me play it back...") and/or become more grounded in reality.

Protip:  Keep any recordings backed up, in a logical/chronological file/folder structure, behind a super secure password.

The iPhone or iPod touch can record for many hours, continuously.  Mine needs to be charged long before it runs out of storage, i.e., I can record for many days, maybe weeks - but it will need to be charged daily - it's become part of my regular routine. 

Keeping recordings on a separate device from the iPhone minimizes the chance that a recording will inadvertently stop when you receive a call or connect to bluetooth in your car, etc., and enhances discretion - recording on the iPhone will always show a "live" session in the island at the top of the screen, or on the lock screen. You bypass all of this by using a separate device...

Good luck.


Title: Re: Recordings
Post by: dtkm on December 21, 2023, 01:16:54 PM
Thank you so much for the information!!