Title: waking up to reality Post by: Changingman on November 02, 2013, 06:39:27 AM I talk of The Matrix Moment when you first discover BPD. One of the directors has had a sex Change anyone. Else notice this
Title: Re: The Matrix seems to have many ideas in it that are BPD applicable? Post by: LivingLearning on November 02, 2013, 11:25:55 PM Not sure I understand... .can you expound?
Title: Re: The Matrix seems to have many ideas in it that are BPD applicable? Post by: Changingman on November 03, 2013, 06:35:11 AM Hi living learning,
Badly explained by me. When my last relationship ended with my 4 year BPD live in girlfriend, I knew something was desperately wrong with the whole affair. I had put it down to her being a bit emotionally volatile, easily hurt and her drinking. When I realised that there must be more to it I looked up alcoholism to see if it could explain it. The matrix moment of waking up to a new reality. When the article explained that BPD could be a factor I looked it up not expecting much. Boom, my whole relationship with her explained in 5 paragraphs. It felt like waking up and realizing I had been living in a constructed world with realty going on just below my understanding. But odd feelings of knowing *something* wasn't right. The S&M deviance content in the Matrix Sexuality, leather, S&M dress code. Etc When I heard that one of the writer/directors had a sex change, I thought of one of the traits of BPD symptoms, a lack of self which includes a fluid idea of sexual orientation. Paranoia, false fronts, mirroring etc Is the film informed from aBPD writer. Just a thought! Title: Re: The Matrix seems to have many ideas in it that are BPD applicable? Post by: Weird Fishes on November 03, 2013, 05:24:53 PM Being trans is different from sexuality. Trans has to do with the gender you identify as, not with who you are attracted to.
To change your gender is a pretty big commitment and not something someone would do on a weekend for fun and impulse (particularly since your chances of being attacked, harassed or murdered go way up.) Title: Re: waking up to reality Post by: fromheeltoheal on November 03, 2013, 06:43:27 PM Yes, to me there is a parallel between the Matrix and being in a relationship with a borderline, that being we are confined to an illusion such that we don't know the illusion isn't real and accept it as our reality, for a while anyway, until it becomes clear what is going on under the facade, the fantasy dies, yet we stay anyway. That's more garden variety denial.
I think the similarities end there though, and can't really take the leap to claiming the movie makers have the disorder and created a big screen version of it. The Matrix draws from Plato, Alive in Wonderland, Christianity, anime and other influences, touching on a lot of time-tested themes. Title: Re: The Matrix seems to have many ideas in it that are BPD applicable? Post by: Traumatized on November 04, 2013, 09:45:41 AM Being trans is different from sexuality. Trans has to do with the gender you identify as, not with who you are attracted to. To change your gender is a pretty big commitment and not something someone would do on a weekend for fun and impulse (particularly since your chances of being attacked, harassed or murdered go way up.) You are correct. Thank you for your intelligent and informed response. Title: Re: waking up to reality Post by: Changingman on November 04, 2013, 04:39:17 PM Point taken, thank you. Transgender is serious and physical. Perhaps he knew lots about BPD because of his/her search for self and researched BPD as a possibility. Became interested in the ideas of BPD and applied the theory as a part of the film. Or maybe not. Thanks for answering.
Title: Re: waking up to reality Post by: LivingLearning on November 07, 2013, 12:03:29 AM Interesting idea of the matrix. I can so relate. And it's such a mindfhit to realize on a deeper level just how much we construct our own realities. Gender being one of them. In its most rudimentary form what is a male or female and what does it matter? On another level, it seems humans do well when they call themselves one or they other. Is that learned? Is that intrinsic?
I know for me, my ex has gone from liking guys , to very Christian guys, to lesbians, to self described "mad" lesbians, back to men. And she has a lot of trans friends. Maybe I don't understand, yet for me, I see her experiments in gender not a sign if health, but a running away from trauma. And yeah, I can't know that. So yeah. I wouldn't be suprised if this has something to do with the "BPD de-realization" of the matrix. |