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Title: waking up to reality
Post by: Changingman on November 02, 2013, 06:39:27 AM
I talk of The Matrix Moment when you first discover BPD. One of the directors has had a sex Change anyone. Else notice this



Title: Re: The Matrix seems to have many ideas in it that are BPD applicable?
Post by: LivingLearning on November 02, 2013, 11:25:55 PM
Not sure I understand... .can you expound?


Title: Re: The Matrix seems to have many ideas in it that are BPD applicable?
Post by: Changingman on November 03, 2013, 06:35:11 AM
Hi living learning,

Badly explained by me. When my last relationship ended with my 4 year BPD live in girlfriend, I knew something was desperately wrong with the whole affair. I had put it down to her being a bit emotionally volatile, easily hurt and her drinking. When I realised that there must be more to it I looked up alcoholism to see if it could explain it.

The matrix moment of waking up to a new reality.

When the article explained that BPD could be a factor I looked it up not expecting much. Boom, my whole relationship with her explained in 5 paragraphs. It felt like waking up and realizing I had been living in a constructed world with realty going on just below my understanding. But odd feelings of knowing *something* wasn't right.

The S&M deviance content in the Matrix

Sexuality, leather, S&M dress code.

Etc

When I heard that one of the writer/directors had a sex change, I thought of one of the traits of BPD symptoms, a lack of self which includes a fluid idea of sexual orientation.

Paranoia, false fronts, mirroring etc

Is the film informed from aBPD writer.

Just a thought!


Title: Re: The Matrix seems to have many ideas in it that are BPD applicable?
Post by: Weird Fishes on November 03, 2013, 05:24:53 PM
Being trans is different from sexuality.  Trans has to do with the gender you identify as, not with who you are attracted to. 

To change your gender is a pretty big commitment and not something someone would do on a weekend for fun and impulse (particularly since your chances of being attacked, harassed or murdered go way up.)



Title: Re: waking up to reality
Post by: fromheeltoheal on November 03, 2013, 06:43:27 PM
Yes, to me there is a parallel between the Matrix and being in a relationship with a borderline, that being we are confined to an illusion such that we don't know the illusion isn't real and accept it as our reality, for a while anyway, until it becomes clear what is going on under the facade, the fantasy dies, yet we stay anyway.  That's more garden variety denial.

I think the similarities end there though, and can't really take the leap to claiming the movie makers have the disorder and created a big screen version of it.  The Matrix draws from Plato, Alive in Wonderland, Christianity, anime and other influences, touching on a lot of time-tested themes.


Title: Re: The Matrix seems to have many ideas in it that are BPD applicable?
Post by: Traumatized on November 04, 2013, 09:45:41 AM
Being trans is different from sexuality.  Trans has to do with the gender you identify as, not with who you are attracted to. 

To change your gender is a pretty big commitment and not something someone would do on a weekend for fun and impulse (particularly since your chances of being attacked, harassed or murdered go way up.)

You are correct.  Thank you for your intelligent and informed response.


Title: Re: waking up to reality
Post by: Changingman on November 04, 2013, 04:39:17 PM
Point taken, thank you. Transgender is serious and physical. Perhaps he knew lots about BPD because of his/her search for self and researched BPD as a possibility. Became interested in the ideas of BPD and applied the theory as a part of the film. Or maybe not. Thanks for answering.


Title: Re: waking up to reality
Post by: LivingLearning on November 07, 2013, 12:03:29 AM
Interesting idea of the matrix. I can so relate. And it's such a mindfhit to realize on a deeper level just how much we construct our own realities. Gender being one of them. In its most rudimentary form what is a male or female and what does it matter? On another level, it seems humans do well when they call themselves one or they other. Is that learned? Is that intrinsic?

   I know for me, my ex has gone from liking guys , to very Christian guys, to lesbians, to self described "mad" lesbians, back to men. And she has a lot of trans friends.

   Maybe I don't understand, yet for me, I see her experiments in gender not a sign if health, but a running away from trauma. And yeah, I can't know that.

    So yeah. I wouldn't be suprised if this has something to do with the "BPD de-realization" of the matrix.