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Relationship Partner with BPD (Straight and LGBT+) => Romantic Relationship | Bettering a Relationship or Reversing a Breakup => Topic started by: Sadsue on January 23, 2015, 03:33:04 AM



Title: Breakthrough last night...
Post by: Sadsue on January 23, 2015, 03:33:04 AM
You may have read my post the other day about my husband.  He has ignored me for the last 3 days, we didn't row, have cross words or anything, in fact he text about cooking me a nice tea on his way home on Tuesday, only for me to receive a text a bit later saying he wasn't hungry and to have mine, he then didn't speak to me again until last night.

I was at a loss to what was going on and knew I hadn't done anything wrong.  Again last night he came in and didn't speak!  I went into him and asked what was going on and why was he ignoring me.  He raged and broke a dish throwing it on the floor in anger! 

I walked away, went in before bed and he said he hated himself was really struggling etc etc, then the breakthrough !  He admitted he knew I hadn't done anything wrong on Tuesday and was embarrassed and ashamed and didn't know how to rectify it.  I told him a simple cuddle and apology for being off would have been all that was needed.  I told him he didn't need to be ashamed but by ignoring me for 3 days only magnified it.  I said I felt as though he carried it on until I got angry so then he felt justified.  He admitted that he did this.  We both ended up in tears and hugged. 

He's never really apologised before and certainly has never admitted he was in the wrong.  So next time I will reach out to him to break the ice in a non judgmental way.

So for now we have come out of the other side.  I hate this illness.


Title: Re: Breakthrough last night...
Post by: Notwendy on January 23, 2015, 07:02:12 AM
You were able to stay calm and take care of yourself while he worked it out, instead of getting upset and then letting him rage and blame you.

The ST makes us very uneasy, so we try to "fix" our bad feelings by trying to get them to stop. This gives them a reason to focus on us making them mad instead of themselves.

When we step back and manage our own feelings ( as hard as that it) and don't try to change theirs, they are left to deal with their own feelings. Also, we don't reinforce their behavior.

My T told me that a "breakthrough" for me would happen when I could stay calm in the face of a rage or the ST. It's about me. This is your "breakthrough".

Good job!


Title: Re: Breakthrough last night...
Post by: Grey Kitty on January 23, 2015, 09:20:53 AM
Yay! You made it through this episode, and so did he.

|iiii Your plan to reach out next time is excellent!

I walked away, went in before bed and he said he hated himself was really struggling etc etc, then the breakthrough !  He admitted he knew I hadn't done anything wrong on Tuesday and was embarrassed and ashamed and didn't know how to rectify it.  I told him a simple cuddle and apology for being off would have been all that was needed.

Buried in this is a subtle lesson that I've learned about the silent treatment, and what is going on in the head of a pwBPD... .and how/when to reach out.

It starts out with him being upset at something... .and taking it out on you with silent rage. Actively ignoring you, and sending you the message that you don't exist is horribly mean and invalidating... .and comes with a free bonus invalidation--if you call him on it, he can claim he's doing nothing wrong, and invalidate your very real hurt feelings about it!

The key is that it starts that way. Even if what he's angry about has nothing to do with you, like he admitted it did.

At some point he transitions to feeling embarrassed about treating you so badly, and not knowing what to do about it. At this point, if he breaks the silence, he would be admitting that he did something 'wrong', and being a pwBPD, that would mean to him admitting that he IS a horrible awful person, painting himself black, and everything! Needless to say, this isn't easy for him to do!

The tricky part (for you) is that his actions don't change visibly when he goes to this second stage.

What you can do is find your compassion for the misery he's experiencing. I always believed that whatever abuse my wife was directing at me, she was always directing more and worse inward at herself. It didn't excuse the abuse, but it did help me find some compassion for her.

When you are in that compassionate place, and he's giving you silence, you can reach out gently in a way that lets him know you aren't angry at him, you aren't judging him, and you aren't pressuring him. That you will welcome him back when he's ready.

The key is to make sure that YOU are in that place where you can reach out without any expectation--you don't know if he is ready or not. He's not self-aware, but he is hyper-aware of your moods. He will sense your expectations and will react to them. Poorly.

I consider them to be little gentle 'touches'. When you are at home together, natural opportunities happen a lot--times you cross paths and can smile, or offer a cup of tea (maybe not--that could be triggering after the prior exchange!), or something.

If you don't get a positive response, wait a few hours... .or a day, and find another time where you have connected to the compassion, and try again.


Title: Re: Breakthrough last night...
Post by: Notwendy on January 23, 2015, 09:40:58 AM
Great insight GK. I believe that my H is feeling awful when he has raged and done the ST. I think he's pretty embarrassed about it. However, admitting he's done something wrong is quite shaming to him.

I just hate the ST, it is awful.


Title: Re: Breakthrough last night...
Post by: ColdEthyl on January 23, 2015, 09:49:22 AM
I'm so glad for you, Sadsue! As always, GK nails it with his insight. I'm thankful for the folks on these boards <3