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 on: Today at 01:51:43 AM 
Started by jalbright - Last post by KellyO
Many people say they try because of children. My parents tried too, and it took me 40 years to get over that trying. I was aftraid of dark until I was over 30 years old. So much that I couldn't sleep alone.

My father was very, very ill person. He was a psychopath, but that time term was unknown. Let me give you example: when he get final diagnose after years in mental institutes (he loved them, so much attention!), he told my mother he now can kill her and no one can do anything about it, because he is officially mentally ill. I witnessed the beatings 'till my mother divorced when I was 12, and once after that (and that was very bad time). I got beaten too. My sister did not, and she still thinks our childhood was not so bad. I don't have a single person who would validate me and my experience, so it took a long time for me to validate my own childhood to myself!

I got deeply damaged. Keeping up appearance is very important to my mother, so me being damaged was my own fault. I never got help. I just now realised I have been depressed all my life, and still tried to manage in this world like others. I just blaimed myself that it is my own fault that it is so hard for me, others seem to blaze through this life with such ease and I'm struggling every day, I'm jus a bad person, I must try harder.

I wrote this to people who try to stay because of children. I have red stories about how disordered person treats children terribly and still the sane person does not take children and leave for good. If you say you stay for children think again, because your children will not thank you. I have nothing to do with my mother anymore. She never gave me any care, instead she turned all her shame to me and made me carry it. If I wouldn't have cut all ties to her, I would have never get healthy. My mother always thinks that children don't remember. I remember my first beating from age 4. I had to sit down with it, be again the 4 year old, take the beating again in my mind, feel all the things I was not allowed to feel that time because there was not single person for me, and let go and forgive. Don't deceive yourselves by thinking that children will forget.

And your children understand and see more you know. And children tend to blame themselves for what ever happenes. It is crazy, but that is actually thruth that any professional can tell you. They grow up being adults with shame, guilt, anxiety and depression. They get disordered themselves or they find disordered partners because they coped by getting codependent.

My father made suicide at age 42.

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 on: Today at 01:50:58 AM 
Started by Tordesillas - Last post by Tordesillas
Grad:
- She did start seeing a therapist but kept the contents of those sessions private.  She never told me if she was given an official diagnosis.  But I have my suspicions that she wouldn't have told me.  I suppose I blame myself somewhat for this.  Early on in our relationship we were discussing our families (Her sister is diagnosed Histrionic and her mother and father both suffer from undiagnosed disorders)  and I mentioned that my Grandfather once told me never to marry someone with a serious mental illness and that I agreed with him.  My Grandmother had been severley bipolar and while he loved her, he had a very hard life because of it.   My girlfriend really took this to heart and once confessed that she was afraid to face what was going on with her because if she did and was diagnosed with something, I would leave her.   

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 on: Today at 01:43:42 AM 
Started by Sango216 - Last post by Clearmind
 Empathy You will be OK Sango

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 on: Today at 01:43:06 AM 
Started by ComoLu - Last post by ComoLu
Today would have been my 34th wedding anniversary, and I am just sad.  I've been separated from my uBPDxH for 2 yrs. and divorced for 2 mos.  I am trying, and all of you have been so wonderful with your advice and experiences, but sometimes I just miss him.  I didn't have nearly as much of the drama that most of you had during the time we were together, but I have had more than I wanted since he left.  I had been with him for my entire adult life, and we had so many fabulous memories.  Now it is like he is a totally different person, but I miss the man I loved...even if he wasn't real, my love was.  I know that time heals all wounds, and I am much better than I was, but my pain is real too.  Thanks for letting me vent.  Hopefully tomorrow will be better.

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 on: Today at 01:31:39 AM 
Started by Sango216 - Last post by Sango216
Yes, that is definitely one thing I've learned as a result of our relationship.  I do not need him to get "closure."  Accepting the fact that he is a sick person in denial, and forgiving him for wrongful acts he has committed is all the closure I need.  I can find inner peace within myself. 

Thank you for the support Clearmind!  smiley

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 on: Today at 01:28:35 AM 
Started by Sango216 - Last post by Clearmind
I hear you Sango. I felt the same way.

Closure comes from within us. I soon realized that I saw plenty and really needed to get out of my relationship. It wasn't my ex that called it quits at all - I should have ended it long before he did. This provided me with some personal power - the ending was not a surprise - I was in that relationship too - I saw all the dysfunction and I'm pleased I don't have to see it anymore.

You dodged a bullet.

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 on: Today at 01:27:11 AM 
Started by BPDFamily - Last post by musicfan42
I didn't like it..I didn't like being called "codependent". I don't really like the disease model for nons. I actually found DBT skills more empowering-learning how to be assertive, focusing on my own emotional needs whereas calling someone "codependent" implies that there is something "wrong" with them. I don't like the label-I know that there is nothing "wrong" with me but that I just needed help with some life skills, that's all.

I also don't like the assumption that it's mostly women who are codependent-personality traits are not gender based! There are men who have weak boundaries too and could also do with working on their own assertiveness etc. 

I think that being called "codependent" implies that I'm some kind of victim whereas that's the last thing I want-the books has good introductory information but you'd learn all of this kind of thing going to an Alanon meeting anyways so I didn't learn anything new from it unfortunately. I really think the focus should be more on female empowerment as opposed to being saddled down with a pejorative label-"codependent" is not in the DSM..the closest thing is perhaps Dependent Personality Disorder so I think that women should just be taught that:

a) you don't need a man-you can do it by yourself.
b) don't settle for less than you deserve
c) have a life of your own-don't depend on a man for money, have your own hobbies and interests, have your own friends, have supportive people around you so that you're not constantly relying on a man to meet your emotional needs
d) have firm boundaries in relationships-know what you want and don't want
e) if you have self-esteem issues, work on them and don't assume that anyone else will make you happy! You have to make YOURSELF happy. No one can do it for you.

There-I've saved you the trouble of reading the book! The book just tells you basic stuff like that but it rambles on and on..

I didn't like hearing the stories either-it was just one sob story after another. I want to hear about women who have OVERCOME this crap! We need inspirational role models out there-that you may be dealing with a tough situation but that yes, you CAN get over it! You are strong enough. You have courage. I don't want to hear about all my supposed "weaknesses", all the things I'm doing "wrong" because anyone who has been around someone abusive has already been told that they're "not good enough". Positive reinforcement is needed-to build up morale again! Not victim blaming!


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 on: Today at 01:26:43 AM 
Started by Tordesillas - Last post by MammaMia
Tordesallis

Welcome to BPDF.  You have lots of company here.  We all love pwbpd and know what this disorder does to relationships.  

I do not know how familiar you are with bpd, but you will find so much
good information here.  While you and your bpdgf are not together any longer, this information may help you to understand more about this very frustrating illness.  Simply stated, it is caused by a malfunctioning of the wiring in the brain, and the symptoms of bpd are pretty much identical in everyone who has been diagnosed with it.  You are not crazy...but this disorder is.

To answer your question, Yes, I have noticed periods of "rationality" with my bpd son.  Sadly, they are not frequent.  Bpd causes intense mood dysregulation and
bizarre, distorted thought processes along with many other symptoms.  There are ways to interact with pwbpd to try to reduce the conflict.  

Please checkout the material we have available.  I think it will be helpful.  Thanks for joining us.  You are among friends.



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 on: Today at 01:25:42 AM 
Started by Tordesillas - Last post by KellyO
Not moments of clarity, no, but he once said something that made me understand he does see how he acts, he just does not see any other way to cope. He said "I always have to try to get rid of people who care about me". By that he meant two people, me and his support person (he was alcoholic). When he said that I could see he was in great pain. And there are other situations like that. This made me understand that the problem is not that he does not see himself. He does. The problem is that he is adamant in his belief that there is no other way to cope in this world for him. He can't see options. It is very sad.

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 on: Today at 01:25:23 AM 
Started by OutsidetheHermitWalls - Last post by Clearmind
Outside anger is normal. With anger comes clarity just on the other side. Ride it and don't dismiss it.

Sometimes our anger is aimed at ourselves - showing ourselves kindness and compassion and forgiveness will help.

Enjoy some nice memories with family and friends.

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