Sim card: maybe this will help someone

[Think About It...]

We decided to install a sim card on dd phone to record texts etc so we cam better monitor her activity. In addition we blocked and deleted from contacts any numbers of people with whom she was negatively interacting. Most phones now have a sim slot on the side and can be purchased for pretty cheap.
Just postingvtjis in case it'll helP someone else.
Peace.

[almostvegan]

We decided to install a sim card on dd phone to record texts etc so we cam better monitor her activity. In addition we blocked and deleted from contacts any numbers of people with whom she was negatively interacting. Most phones now have a sim slot on the side and can be purchased for pretty cheap.
Just postingvtjis in case it'll helP someone else.
Peace.

[peaceplease]

Oh wow, this dieting has me seeing things.  I thought that I read "Slim Card".  I said, yes, if soemone can help with my weight battle.    But, really Technology can be helpful as much as harmful.  Also, I believe they have gps montioring on phones.  But, I think that my be expensive.  These are tools that I definitely would use if I had a teen. 

[almostvegan]

We have the gps on her phone! Problem is by law ( USA) the person being tracked gets a text every time you try to lOcate them making them aware you're looking for them. So it can have trust implications and can lead to" WHY ARE YOU SPYING ON ME". But I figure that if they can't be trusted too bad on them. There's also a feature that you can set parameters as to where they're allowed to travel and if they go outside those boundries the parent gets a text notification.

The services aren't expensive. Only $10 a month additional. The peace of mind is priceless.

Tell me what your weight struggles are. I work for a weight loss company maybe I can help?

[heronbird]

Peaceplease so funny, if they invent a slim card Ill have one haha, imagine technology like can you put it in your iphone and loose weight haha funny eh

I love the gps in phone, such a good idea, we really would of loved that for dd. Met dds friend at P clinic and she had a tag on her leg because she had been in trouble with Police, I wished my dd could of had that and the girl had to be home every night by 8pm or Police would go get her and bring her home, such a drastic idea really for my dd.

almostvegan, could we get it set up in her phone without her knowing, how cool would that be, we turn up at the place she is and say come home now, shed never know how we knew hehe, oh dear sad really.

[almostvegan]

Yeah that would be great! But in the us you can't install " spyware" on someones phone without their knowledge. Even if they're minors. Ridiculous. I can't even access her public library account! I think we've taken privacy laws a bit too seriously.

[Battle Weary]

maybe the privacy laws are different in the UK?

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[heronbird]

No, same over here in UK. Dont understand though because we have to have the phone in our name as she is under 18. So that also means we can cancel contract at anytime.

[almostvegan]

I think it's insane!
We wanted to get a copy of all her texts but were told we would need a court order and have to hire an attorney! She's a minor for goodness sake!

[Kidnapped]

Theere are some limits on these laws.  That latest about tracking devices without warrants was directed at LAW ENFORCEMENT - not parents.  And there is of course no law requiring you to provide a kid with a phone at all.  Moreover, when you DO provide them with a phone or computer, you own it - not them, unless by some stretch you gave it as a gift...and even then.

Laws as to who can record conversations without notifying the otheer party vary by state.  But that does NOT apply to parents, and never did.  It only applies to evidence which the party doing the recording can bring into open court.  Minors have no particular expectation of privacy, other than a few very limited situations, such as getting birth control in some states.  Even medical records are subject to parental inspection.

Frankly, if there were such laws, I wouldn't think twice about breaking them.  If your child is at risk, who wouldn't be prepared to take the consequences for merely protecting their child?  Keep in mind, if your child goes out and damages someone else or their property, YOU as a parent are held responsible in most cases.   As long as you have the responsibliity, you have all reasonable authority to go with it.  'Reasonable' stops where actual child abuse and neglect begin...and not before.    That's why school officials and medical practitioners are mandatory reporters of abuse and neglect - the child's need to be protected overpowers any expectation of privacy or anything else.

But don't take my word for it.  If you have some doubt, consult an attorney.                         

[almostvegan]

Kidnapped: I thought that was The case too but Verizon disagrees with me.They've told us more than once that it's a spyware thing and the laws don't allow it.  Even the ny public library won't let me into her records bc she's a young adult. They said only children up to the age of 11.
I'm in ny maybe the laws are different here than where you are but I double checked. Dd therapist confirmed she's heard the same from other parents.

[Kidnapped]

Verizon isn't quite telling you the truth.  It was discovered recently that many of the larger carriers were leaving their own software installed on their phones that tracks your location and logs all your recent text activity.  They all tried to claim that it was technical diagnostic stuff not used to invade your privacy.  Obviously, this was not an acceptable answer for adults OR children!   I can't answer for NY state laws specifically.  But I can tell you that  the most recent actions have been brought against the carriers and government agencies - not parents. 

On the flip side, if your phone is android, you can install whatever you like.  The android market has software available that will do what you want.  The carrier and the state have no ability to dictate what you can install on a phone you own, short of kiddie porn (which you won't find in the android market anyway).   

[Battle Weary]

Kidnapped,
What a great tip about Android.  We are what the tech world calls late adopters--very late adopters actually--but I will definitely remember this if we ever work our way up to something as fancy as an Android.