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« on: March 25, 2011, 02:32:35 PM »

Why do pwBPD sometime speak with a childlike voice?
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2011, 12:49:28 AM »

I use all kinds of different voices too..depending on mood, humor effect and audience.  Most consistently then intellectual highish more bass devoid one, the confident intellectual, the hood voice and debater one..all automatic unless I think about them.  Nah, it's pretty much social training and that inside voice you use while reading material.  Not psychosis in my use but who knows with BPDers, just trying to be fair.
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2011, 04:46:45 AM »

There are two possible things that may be at play here:

Childhood abuse.

Emotional abuse produces an array of effects, often including a number of speech disorders. Stuttering or stammering, slurred speech, delayed speech, baby talk and aspects of selective mutism may all result from emotional abuse. These disorders are usually made worse by the stress, frustration and fear induced by emotional abuse. Usually speech disorders will not be the only behavioural indicator of emotional abuse, however, and may be accompanied by the development of sleep disorders, eating disorders, bed wetting and/or self-harming.

www.speechdisorder.co.uk/child-abuse-and-speech-disorders.html

Normally, in a nurturing and loving relationship, children will subconsciously imitate the sound of their same-sex parent; however, if that relationship is abusive, they will not. I have heard men who sound like women; and, in questioning them, I have discovered that they were abused by their father, thus they imitated their mothers – the one that nurtured. In Ellen's case, because her mother was the abuser, she retained her young-sounding voice as a defense against her mother.

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Communication of intimate attachment
Communication of intimate attachment or even excessive communication of intimate attachment

Babytalk as a communication of intimate attachment: An initial study in adult romances and friendships

Personal Relationships (1996)
Volume: 3, Issue: 2, Pages: 137-158

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Babytalk is a speech register that has been studied most extensively as it is spoken by mothers to infants, but without attention to its possible role in emotional bonding. We suggest that babytalk plays such a role–that it expresses and facilitates intimate psychological connection, and in a variety of relationships. We first overview relevant literature to show that an association between babytalk and intimate attachment makes sense. Then we report a questionnaire study, which is the first to explore this association as well as the first empirical documentation that babytalk occurs in adult romances and friendships. Self-reported features and examples of the speech register (as spoken in a particular romance) verified it as babytalk. Individuals who had babytalked to friends or romantic partners tended to be more secure and less avoidant with regard to attachments in general. Within a particular romantic relationship, indicators of intimacy and attachment accounted for about 22% of the variance in babytalk frequency. Partner's babytalking was the strongest predictor, accounting for about 42% of the variance. Communication intentions accompanying babytalk paralleled the hallmarks of attachment, especially affection and play. These and other results suggest that babytalk functions in the process of intimate personal connection.
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2011, 08:42:23 AM »

mmm... maybe there's a bit too much generalization going on in this thread.

My exBPgf never talked the girly way as far as I can remember.

And a former girlfriend of mine did sometimes, but she definitely did not have BPD.

I really doubt this type of behavior can be categorized as typical of BPD.
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2012, 11:03:15 PM »

My mom is a rage filled BPD. So when she becomes what my brothers and I call "the cabbage patch mom", it is especially weird. I asked my therapist about this. he says it's common in BPD, actually and called "regressive defense mechanism".

I haven't had contact with my mom for 22 years, but my brothers say she still does the "cabbage patch mom". She talks in a toddler voice, stands pigeon toed, acts shy and cutesy, and intertwines her hands in front of herself. She also usually talks in the 3rd person when she does this. She mispronounces words in the exaggerated style of a 2 or 3 year old.

My therapist says its the only way she can be vulnerable.

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Regression: Regression is another one of the defense mechanisms identified by Freud. According to Freud there are times when people are faced with situations that are so anxiety provoking that they can't deal with it and they protect themselves by retreating to an earlier stage of development.
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2012, 01:35:02 AM »

I detect a change in my daughters voice that almost resembles baby talk.  It usually happens when she is feeling bad about something she has done (whether I know about it or not).  Not a lot of people pick up on it but I sure do.  
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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2012, 08:38:06 AM »

This behaviour may belong to an inner aspect called the 'wounded inner child'. It is a unconscious part of the psyche that ceased to mature after a trauma of some kind.

In Jungian psychology we all have an inner child that has legitimate needs for expression and acceptance. This 'child' has something to say that is a key to healing the adult. Many adults have lost the imaginative and joyful energy of their inner child and this seeming regression in audible 'baby talk' is a call for validation.
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2013, 04:01:41 PM »

I think oftentimes it's regression. When a pwBPD is feeling childlike, s/he will take on a childish affect.
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2016, 03:12:12 PM »

The pwBPD I know uses her baby voice as a form of manipulation. She will literally use it with her caretakers, people in authority, etc. She will get all doe-eyed and bat her lashes with them. Then she and I will walk out of the room and she will go back to being normal.

I see it as an extension of her Jekyll and Hyde persona.
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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2016, 04:44:40 AM »

Yes I get it too.

Normally when W. wants to approach me in a loving and gentle way (following a spat, not simply sponataneous) she will adopt little girl voice and demand attention,a kiss for example.

Probably not exclusive to BPD but to anyone having difficulty being themselves and adult.
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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2016, 05:37:52 AM »

My son who is thirteen will go into baby talk when he is uncomfortable about something. For me it seems to be his way of not being talked to harshly or too in depth. Probably learnt from the fact that when he was young he was never put on the spot as he wasnt capable of answering in an adult manner. He has been regressing a lot lately due to his mums behaviour.
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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2016, 01:24:24 AM »

 

"My" ex BPD is very clever at laguages.
He'd pick up many dialects and he'd adjust himself. Being in Holland, he'd speak with a Dutch accent. He would not notice himself.

If he had met his ex, I could tell the way he talked, he'd copy her stressfull voice.
He also spoke with the voice of his 16-year-old and sometimes copied her behaviour.
This would very much annoy me.

He was very good in reading my face and could tell when I tried to hide my anger.
He was better in getting on with animals than with people because he is so childish naiv.
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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2016, 01:35:13 AM »



"My" ex BPD is very clever at laguages.
He'd pick up many dialects and he'd adjust himself. Being in Holland, he'd speak with a Dutch accent. He would not notice himself..

I think it is normal to pick up accents just not that quick. I worked with a group of guys with a very strong regional accent and when I went home my family laughed as I was speaking like them. I guess I picked it up subconsciously to fit in and feel more accepted. To do it as quick as your ex seems to me to be more about a very unstable sense of self.
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2016, 12:44:21 PM »

In my experience, the baby talk/childish talk/doe eyes are whipped out when the pwBPD I know wants to manipulate someone.
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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2016, 01:56:54 AM »

underneath everything, there is a child that never was allowed to grow up in many borderlines. And maybe also in ourselves.

So it is kind of suppressed and when we feel totally safe in a loving relationship, this part can come out.

I think deep down that was the deepest connection we shared, to really open up these young and innocent parts in ourselves.

Unfortunately, these parts are hidden beneath a lot of brokenness, and the brokenness will make sure that that connection will fail sooner or later.

Babytalk i never really experienced, i think it was more that a part of our love was a childish love, both in a good and a bad way.
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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2016, 04:08:01 AM »

My ex uBPD did more of a childlike impersonation during times of emotional stress.   It wasn't very frequent but she would almost take on the role of a innocent child with the talk and expressions.  I think it was a outcry for comfort and compassion, but nonetheless, bizarre.
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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2016, 09:46:12 AM »

okay, ill bite.

yes my ex did this. so did several girls i have known, and its always made me cringe. yet in my relationship i found myself doing it back.

its not a "BPD thing", let alone a trait. i did wonder what it might have to do with schema modes, though, if anything.
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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2017, 07:38:12 PM »

I've noticed this with my high-functioning BPD mother repeatedly in two types of situations:

1) when she's been called-out on her poor behaviours and becomes defensive, whether being "cute", or tantrum-like and stomping her foot exclaiming that this is "no fair" (or, alternatively, will talk like a politician, going all the way around the situation still not having accepted onus); and

2) when she's going into what I call her "performance mode" as she attempts to convince others (including my sister and I) that our family experiences were somehow something other than how they truly were / are.

To any outsider witnessing this, it can come across as almost comical, though my mother is dead serious when she's doing it and can leave people feeling confused as to how to react.  To me, it comes across almost as if she's regressing or becoming someone else.
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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2017, 04:58:26 PM »

I babytalked to my H wBPD when times were better, and he responded in kind. Then his illness got worse and he thought it was weird, so I stopped.
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