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 91 
 on: October 07, 2026, 11:54:35 PM  
Started by Brighterdays26 - Last post by ForeverDad
She then began to target my fiance, who is amazing and kind, but not used to walking on eggshells because he didn’t grow up with this specific relationship, pain and trauma. I am highly emotional and empathetic, and I don’t like confrontation -  and I feel like it would be constant if I didn’t pick and choose my battles...

I fear my mom sees my fiance as a threat since I believe she is so dependent on me, my time - and my emotional support for her.

You and your fiance need to be always united when dealing with your mother, as though walls against an irresistible force.  And keep an objective perspective overall.  Think outside the box, not from a subjective perspective, but an objective one.

I suspect your mother might get triggered or make a scene at wedding preparations, the wedding, reception, perhaps much more in future years.  This is where firm boundaries are important.  However, in life there are occasionally exceptions needed.  When you do need to relax a boundary, your mother will jump on it as though changed forever and not an exception.  So if you do make exceptions, be very clear your overall boundaries remain in place.  Your boundaries, when rigorously maintained, will protect you and your loved ones.

I am reminded of a prior member who has since moved on with her life.  She got married while here and we virtually watched over her shoulder as she planned her wedding.  She knew her BPD mother would try to become the center of attention so she hired a couple off duty police officers to provide security for her wedding and reception.  Want to guess where she stationed them?  Yes, near her mother!  All her plans worked out.

I hope your future too works out, perhaps not as you'd wish, but please enjoy what you can. Virtual hug (click to insert in post)

 92 
 on: October 07, 2026, 10:23:08 PM  
Started by Brighterdays26 - Last post by Pook075
Hello and welcome to the family.  I'm so sorry you're in this situation and I wish there was a way to "fix this" so it doesn't continue.  Unfortunately though, BPD can't be fixed unless someone is ready to put in considerate time and effort in therapy.  Even before that though, they have to realize that the problem within their life actually comes from within. 

But to admit that to yourself as a mentally ill person when there's zero answer on how to overcome it...it's almost impossible.  For that reason, your mom deserves compassion.  What she says and does is genuine since she believes it wholeheartedly.  Why?  Because the actual truth is too much to bear- every failed relationship came from her sabotaging everything good in her life.

I remember a time my BPD daughter sprained her ankle.  It was a bad sprain and the doctor told her to move around as little as possible for a month, to wear boots that supported the ankle, etc.  But instead, my kid wore flip flops and ran/jumped every oportunity she had.  As a result, a short term injury became like a two-year cycle of anger, blame, sympathy plays....even though there was a clear way to fix things.  Just do what the doctor said, what everyone is telling you.  Just let it heal.  But she simply refused to be told what to do.

Your mom is in the exact same position, she needs to mentally heal through therapy.  But instead, she leans on you for emotional support while trying to destroy anything in your life that gets in the way.  That's why your parents' marriage failed, and it could be why your marriage eventually fails as well.  It is manipulation at its finest.

I said all of that to say this- you are responsible for you.  Mom is responsible for mom.  When that no longer feels true, it's time to take a few steps back.  I do agree with you that mom needs your endless compassion and empathy to function, but once you begin to withdraw, she will simply find someone else to fill that void.  She's done it her entire life.  This is not your job though and it's not your responsiblity.

Push back on her narratives surrounding your childhood, but at the same time make it crystal clear, "I love you but I will not talk about this anymore.  It is emotionally draining."  If she respects that, great.  If not, hang up and distance yourself for a few days.  Then rinse and repeat.

Do this exact same thing when it comes to your job, your partner, your lifestyle, your family, etc.  If this is to be a mutual relationship, then you get some say in what you actually talk about and your feelings should be respected.  The one-way relationship has to end though, there's nothing in it for you but harm and emotional trauma.

This plays out one of two ways- either mom learns to respect your boundaries, or you end up no contact.  The only one who can change this dynamic is you though, and your healthy boundaries will drive her one step closer to admitting the ugly truth- she's seriously ill and needs to take therapy seriously.  Letting her dominate your life has the exact opposite effect; there's no need to change anything if she gets her disordered emotion support from you.

You have to choose one path- either you're in charge of you, or mom's disordered thinking is.

 93 
 on: October 07, 2026, 09:36:23 PM  
Started by Brighterdays26 - Last post by ForeverDad
None of us are vengeful, of course, but I am reminded of an old saying in which I will replace 'revenge' with 'outcome' ... "The best {outcome} is to live a good life." Doing the right thing (click to insert in post)

 94 
 on: October 07, 2026, 05:16:01 PM  
Started by Brighterdays26 - Last post by bigapple313
It’s pretty typical parentified child relationship, she relies on me heavily for emotional regulation which can be a lot, but I sensed she was trying which made my hopeful. Nonetheless, there is always some other drama or anger towards the past, but she was happy with me. She then began to target my fiance, who is amazing and kind, but not used to walking on eggshells because he didn’t grow up with this specific relationship, pain and trauma. I am highly emotional and empathetic, and I don’t like confrontation -  and I feel like it would be constant if I didn’t pick and choose my battles. But this has affected my life in so many way, and I am at a loss because I am constantly stonewalled and can’t even share my own person lived experiences and perspectives without being stonewalled. There is so much to this I’m not even sure where to begin or end so I will get to my main questions.



Thank you for sharing so much about how his relationship has impacted you. I completely relate to what you said about being highly emotional, empathetic and confrontation-averse. I am exactly the same way, and as I've learned more about BPD (in my case it is my sister), I am realizing that some of these core pieces of my personality have developed due to the efforts I've taken to navigate an unpredictable relationship with an individual locked into a victim mentality. I am curious how many other community members here relate to that as well.

While the nuances of all of our stories are different, I think one of the biggest themes that we all face is understanding how to set boundaries that protect ourselves while still being present for our loved one who is suffering. But at the end of the day YOU deserve to have peace. Sometimes protecting yourself and the other relationships that you cherish means releasing control and divesting yourself of the caretaker role. I'll share something that happened to me that got my wheels turning about this: last year I hosted Thanksgiving, and I caught myself going to extreme lengths to keep my sibling happy and entertained and calm at my own expense. Because of the empathy I've developed, I can feel the shifts in her mood and can usually feel an emotional episode brewing before it happens. During this holiday weekend I realized I was taking it upon myself to "head her off at the pass" by adjusting any variables that were upsetting to her, whether it was the direction a conversation was going or a comment someone made that she found upsetting. After the holiday I got very sick, and I had a bit of an "aha" moment that I couldn't do it anymore. Walking on eggshells with her was impacting me both mentally AND physically.

Al Anon is designed for loved ones of individuals suffering from substance use disorder, with the core philosophy being shifting focus from your loved one to yourself. I've actually found Al Anon meetings to be really helpful with boundary setting and detachment for my pwBPD. If you're looking for more resources, this may be a useful model to take a peek at. Ultimately, we can't control our loved ones' emotions or how they choose to interpret the past and the present. But we can find ways to prioritize our own emotional needs.

 95 
 on: October 07, 2026, 02:32:22 PM  
Started by bigapple313 - Last post by Pook075
Hello and welcome to the family.  I'm so sorry you're going through this and I wish there were easy answers how to fix things.  It does sound like BPD and this is a pattern that will unfortunately continue.

One thing I will say though, congrats on getting married!  That's your day and you absolutely must make it 100% about you and your spouse.  Don't worry about what your sister might say or do...or if she'll even show.  Whatever happens there will happen and you have zero control over it, which means worrying is senseless.  Let it go.

I know, I know...it's your big day.  So make it about you for once!

 96 
 on: October 07, 2026, 02:26:55 PM  
Started by Foolingmyself - Last post by Pook075
Today my estranged daughter came and picked up the rest of her belongings. It’s exactly three months and 19 days since she first left. Today makes two weeks that my mother died. I lost my mother,  a young woman who I thought was my daughter and my grandchild all in under three and a half months. To say I am depressed is an understatement. I don’t know how to remake my life from here.

I am so sorry.  I've walked the same road with a BPD kid and grandkids being cut out of my life.  Luckily in my case, if was my non-BPD daughter (with the grandkids) that I had a falling out with for a time and we were able to mend that.  It was all over things the BPDs in my life said though, so I definitely understand.  It's a gut-punch.

The way you remake your life though is simple- you get busy living.  That means fall into old and new hobbies.  That means spend quality time with friends and family.  That means get moving, regardless of what you're doing, so you're not sitting around feeling hurt and broken.

For awhile, you'll have to 'fake it till you make it'.  I've been there and didn't know if I'd survive it.  But time does heal all and this too will lose its sting.

 97 
 on: October 07, 2026, 01:26:37 PM  
Started by bigapple313 - Last post by CC43
Hi there,

What you describe about your sister sounds like BPD to me:  the cycles of estrangement, imagining ill intent in others, taking things the wrong way and uber-personally, volatile emotions, multiple claims of supposed abuse, the endless grievances, her impossible expectations.  She's always twisting fact patterns into a victim narrative, which isn't exactly lying, but is highly distorted and exaggerated, often with essential facts omitted.  For example, if your dad compliments someone else, your sister will typically take it as a personal insult.  In my opinion, the victim mindset is the worst part of BPD, because your sister thinks she's powerless over her own life.  She hasn't really taken responsibility for her own choices and actions, because she feels like she's a victim, which keeps her stuck in a rut, rehashing past grievances ad nauseum, instead of looking forward.  Does that sound about right?

I've written various times on these boards that certain events or milestones, like birthdays, graduations, weddings, funerals, illnesses, vacations, etc. are tinderboxes for pwBPD, because they are emotionally-charged, typically involve friends and family deemed "toxic," and are somewhat stressful--at the very least, they disrupt the usual routine.  The stress alone can derail the pwBPD.  You'd think she'd be happy for you, but I think it's not possible when she's not happy with herself.  You see, deep down she's probably feeling extremely insecure, jealous, inferior and alienated.  Your happiness is a stark reminder of your sister's own unhappiness.  On top of that, she can't stand to witness the attention you're getting, because she construes that as attention taken away from her.  Sometimes she'll create a scene to try to reclaim the attention she craves.  She might start an argument, hurl unfounded accusations or try to sabotage the event in some way.  If she's the avoidant type, she might try to punish you with her absence. 

So, what do you do?  I'm in a similar situation as you right now, with a family wedding coming up.  I think you invite your sister, but that you keep your expectations very low.  My guess is that she might not respond to the invitation, and I think that's OK.  You see, she can't RSVP, because she doesn't know herself if she's going to attend or not.  Her emotions are so volatile, even she doesn't know what she's going to do until the day comes.  If she shows up, great.  You try to recruit some help from a brother, uncle or somebody you trust to step in if your sister creates a scene.  They can escort her out until she calms down.  But no matter what happens, you go ahead and enjoy your special day to the max.  If you sister doesn't show up to the wedding, that's OK too.  Just trust that she wasn't feeling up to it, and she's segregating herself rather than risk ruining your special day.  If she's sulking alone, let her sulk alone--think of it as a needed "adult time out" for her.  Just remember, you have no control over your sister's emotions, and it's not your job to be her emotional caretaker, OK? 

In addition, I'd advise not to give your sister any responsibilities for the wedding, such as bridesmaid or reader.  If she balks, your excuse is that you didn't want to burden her with anything.  This is my general approach with my pwBPD.  Since I do not rely on her for anything, I won't be upset if she falls through.  I'll generally give her low-stakes options, and if she pulls through, then that's icing on the cake--but I don't set myself up for disappointment.  Like I wrote, I don't even expect an RSVP.

Hope that perspective helps a little.  Welcome to the group.

 98 
 on: October 07, 2026, 11:14:57 AM  
Started by bigapple313 - Last post by bigapple313
Hi all,
This is my first post. I'm grateful to have found a community of people who may be managing similar difficulties in their family, and would love feedback/thoughts about my current circumstances from anyone who may have some wisdom.

My older sibling is not diagnosed to my knowledge but after taking time to research and better understand BPD, I feel confident that that this is what she is living with. Our family dynamic is peppered with decades of schisms, estrangements and accusations of abuse. She has a tendency to misunderstand other people's intentions through a lens that everyone has malicious intent towards her. Anything that any of us say can get easily misconstrued, sometimes shockingly so (one example: my dad made a comment that he was very fond of one of my childhood friends, and she felt he made that comment specifically to hurt her). Every few years she cuts us out because of something that she perceives as abusive, and she has a tendency to cut off friends after becoming convinced that they did something horrible to her.

Fast forward to this year. We've enjoyed a few years of peace as a family where everyone seemed to be getting along. Something my dad said to her on the phone was interpreted as malicious, and she decided to cut him off. My mom called her to try to reason with her, and then she cut her off. When I spoke to her about it, she claimed that our parents said horrible things to her that I know for a fact they didn't say, but I tend to be very gentle with pushback because she can become very volatile. I also have recognized over the years that it's not that she's lying--she really believes these things. It is very much HER reality, even if I personally would never interpret things the way she does.

She and I are still communicating -- my tactic is to send loving texts to her to make sure she knows I'm still here and I care about her, which she seems responsive to. Normally I would be okay accepting that we're entering a family cut-off phase, but my wedding is coming up in a few months and I'm starting to feel very nervous. Both of my parents have sent her messages telling her they love her and she hasn't responded.

There is a chance that she won't come to my wedding, and I told her that I support whatever she feels comfortable with. But if she DOES decide to come, I guess I'm nervous of my wedding becoming a backdrop for family drama. I'm not really sure what to do. I feel like I need to have some contingency plans in place for a couple different possible scenarios. Any thoughts/feedback/advice is deeply appreciated.

 99 
 on: October 07, 2026, 05:42:51 AM  
Started by Brighterdays26 - Last post by Notwendy
https://slate.com/technology/2022/03/mentally-ill-parent-elder-care-boundaries-liz-scheier.html

I have posted this article before as it's a good description of what this dynamic feels like. While posters here may have different situations- the dynamics described in this article are relatable.

My parents did not divorce and while my father did take on the larger part of caretaking for my BPD mother, her emotional needs also involved us kids, and others. PwBPD tend to project their feelings and blame others and so while your mother is blaming the divorce, your fiance, or whoever for her situation, my BPD mother did this as well- it is a part of the disorder. Of course you did nothing at age 11 to cause a divorce or not drive to see her.

Where I felt this dilemma was when, in their elder years, my father got ill. I did visit, to help, but I had my own family too. My BPD mother's behavior escalated during this time, and her needs were constant.

My BPD mother was overwhelmed with her own emotional needs, she couldn't think beyond them and likely your mother can't either. Boundaries are necessary, and the difficult aspect of this is that you do care about your mother. If your mother's needs and expectations of you are not reasonable, she will react to that. It is good you are getting therapy to help you to cope with this. You are not doing anything wrong by choosing your own life, a relationship, independence. Emotionally stable parents want this for their children. Your mother isn't able to think in this way- so it is up to you to take steps to have this.




 100 
 on: October 07, 2026, 02:35:22 AM  
Started by Mariedes78 - Last post by Mariedes78
I'm posting because I feel very alone with this and don't know where else to turn.

My partner has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and BPD many years ago.
For the first five years of our relationship (since 2019), things were constantly up and down. She ended things and came back five times, until what I thought was the final time.

Four months later she reached out again. She told me about all the work she'd done on herself: she'd stopped drinking, started medication and was in treatment. We talked for four months and slowly got back together. She seemed so 'together', she was introspective, calm, kind, loving and made me feel amazing. From early 2025, it was genuinely really good. I truly believed the change was real and lasting.

To give her extra reassurance and commit to us, I agreed to get married in October 2025. Part of me wondered if this was mania, but she assured me it wasn't, and she seemed calm and level-headed at the time. We were both thrilled.

About two months after the wedding, the cracks started to show. She would be "off" at times, splitting, and getting angry over very small things. At Christmas she went into a severe depressive episode and talked about separating. I wondered if her medication had stopped working or the dose was wrong.

After that, the arguments became more and more frequent. The hardest part was never knowing whether she was in a BPD episode or genuinely upset with me. So I'd defend and justify myself, and we'd go round and round in circles. I'd walk on eggshells and was worried of the next episode/split/anger or guilt tripping outburst.

About eight weeks ago, after an argument that turned into days of silence, cold shoulder and dismissiveness, I told her in the heat of the moment that I couldn't do this anymore. I said I was breaking and felt like I was going mad, and I asked her to leave. She then attempted suicide.

I haven't processed that. I've felt overwhelming guilt. I tried to give her every bit of support I could while falling apart inside. Her psychiatric team wasn't acting, so I pushed hard to get her an urgent review. When she was seen two days later, it turned out her medication dose was wrong and had been keeping her in a depressive state.

The very next day (which was yesterday), we had a disagreement about holidays and travel. She then told me by text that she wants a divorce, and laid out the logistics: swap belongings, do the divorce online, wished me luck with my new job, "take care x."

I'm devastated and humiliated. I also feel incredibly lonely, because she tends to portray me to her family as the bad, unsupportive one, so I don't feel I have anyone on that side who understands. I have isolated from my friends and family and do not want to talk to them about this as they had warned me when we got back together that this would happen.

If you've been through something like this:

How did you deal with the guilt after a partner's suicide attempt?
How do you grieve someone who keeps leaving and coming back?
How did you stop doubting your own perception of what happened?

Thank you for reading. I just really need to hear from people who understand.

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