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 91 
 on: September 29, 2026, 02:15:45 PM  
Started by Leofrog - Last post by CC43
Hi there,

Welcome to the group.  By the sound of things, your adult daughter is living with you, correct?  My guess is that she's reliant on you for housing, and probably for much more.  If she's drinking during the day, then she's probably unemployed or underemployed.  Do I have that right?  Did she rebound to your place after a failed relationship?  Does she blame her ex for ruining her life?  Or is she mostly focused on blaming you?  Are there any grandchildren in the picture?  Is your daughter currently in therapy?  Is she taking some steps forward to get her act together, or is she devolving into an angry mess of despair, while lashing out at you, practically full-time? 

Apologies for the onslaught of questions . . . as you've probably seen, BPD behaviors can impact all aspects of life--from relationships to employment to housing to finances to general health and hygiene.  In my opinion, it's the pervasive and chronic nature of the behaviors that are characteristic of BPD.  I'm asking all this to understand what your biggest issue is right now, and to consider ways to tackle that issue first.  If your biggest issue is that you're simply at the end of your rope, then you're not alone. 

Here we talk a lot about boundaries.  Just note that when enforcing boundaries, you can't expect to change your daughter's behavior.  You can't control her BPD, her emotions or her actions (like drinking).  What you do control is YOU, and how YOU react to certain situations.  That's why I asked about your biggest problem right now, to try to brainstorm some boundaries you might establish, with the goal of making YOUR life better.  Since you mentioned alcohol, you might decide that alcohol is destroying your homelife, and therefore you want your home to be alcohol-free.  You could discuss a new boundary with your daughter, in a relatively calm moment.  You might say something like:  "I love you, and I can't tolerate watching you poison yourself with alcohol or drugs in my home.  It stresses me out too much when you abuse substances.  Of course, you are an adult, and you can choose to drink or use drugs whenever you want--that's your choice--but not while you're under my roof.  From now on, alcohol and drugs are not allowed in my home.  If I suspect you are using, I will search your room.  If I find alcohol or illicit substances in the house, I will flush them down the toilet.  If you are intoxicated in my home, I will ask you to stay somewhere else until you're sober."  A tougher boundary might be, "If you use alcohol or drugs in my home, I will ask you to live somewhere else."

Now, pwBPD do not like boundaries.  When you try to enforce them, you should expect an escalation.  Here we call that an "extintion burst," which is basically an amped-up version of the tactics that had historically worked for your daughter to get her way.  Maybe she yells, insults you and makes threats until you want to relent, just to get her to stop.  You see, for a long time in your daughter's life, yelling, insulting and making threats got her concessions.  Thus the key to establishing a new boundary is reliable enforcement.  You need to decide ahead of time what you are willing and able to do, and be sure to follow through, every time.  Ultimately, remember that you establish a boundary to protect YOU.  She's not going to like it, because she's used to getting her way after throwing a fit.  But you deserve to protect your own life and well-being, because you are worth it, no matter what your daughter says or accuses you of.

Look, you're no good to your daughter if you're fed up, downtrodden, exhausted and frustrated all the time.  I suspect you need to reclaim your home and focus on your own well-being, especially after enduring DECADES of all this.  Your daughter needs Calm, Happy and Relaxed Mom, not Abused, Worried and Frazzled Mom.  Oftentimes on these boards, I advise parents to model for your pwBPD what a healthy adult's life looks like.  That includes taking care of yourself and maintaining a peaceful home.  It also includes not letting other people walk all over you and tolerating abusive behavior.  You deserve respect, and you won't let misbehavior rule your own home.  How does that sound?

Just so you know, my own adult stepdaughter with BPD has rebounded to my home, several times.  The last time she lived with me, the rules were simple:  free room and board for her, provided that she is respectful, cleans up after herself and finds full-time employment (and works full-time on her job search until then).  When it was clear that she wasn't holding up her end of the bargain, her dad asked her to leave.  It was a messy exit (pwBPD don't like boundaries!), but I think it was actually good for everyone.  She landed on her feet, got a job and has been doing OK, even if she's furious at her dad and me for "kicking her out," though it was her own choice to break the house rules.  Meanwhile, we regained peace in our home.  The alternative--having her lie around all day in our home, not contributing, not looking for work, not working on herself, while hating us and blaming us--is much worse for everyone.

Hope that perspective helps a little.

 92 
 on: September 29, 2026, 01:30:09 PM  
Started by anonymousgf - Last post by ForeverDad
That's the real red flag to me - who is smart enough to know about NDAs, but dumb enough to leave it up to dumb luck and a pittance (20k) to cover their ass?

This sounds like pure narcissism where this confidence man (con man) expects people not to eventually catch on to his convoluted stories and dump him promptly.  They expect their targets to be so credulous (believing everything) as to ignore the obvious signs of emotional manipulation and misuse of the trust expected during a close relationship.

 93 
 on: September 29, 2026, 12:19:03 PM  
Started by anonymousgf - Last post by PearlsBefore
I'm confused and curious if he's just a poseur trying to "impress/intimidate" you...seems to me anyone in the situation to have an NDA to reveal themselves to you (maybe he's an NFL star, maybe he's a millionaire, maybe he's head of some prominent activism group)...would want you to sign it BEFORE entering a relationship...not at the end.

That's the real red flag to me - who is smart enough to know about NDAs, but dumb enough to leave it up to dumb luck and a pittance (20k) to cover their ass?


 94 
 on: September 29, 2026, 02:40:02 AM  
Started by Alz123 - Last post by Alz123
Thank you for taking the time to respond. Yes, I have a therapist and great friends, but I think there is something invaluable about being able to share with others that are going through or have been through similar difficulties.

He has now gone into trying to bargain with me but doing a terrible job of it and making it clearer to me that I'm doing the right thing!

I have sort legal advice so I'm on it with that. He doesn't want me to touch his pension and I don't want him to touch my house, so we are in agreement with that. He is not accruing more debt and has consolidated the loan. I can see if he does so start building debt again so that's a positive.



 95 
 on: September 29, 2026, 02:29:47 AM  
Started by anonymousgf - Last post by Pook075
I just found out that my boyfriend has been lying about his identity from the beginning of our relationship. I have questioned his job and he faked a deposit to prove he was employed at this somewhat elite company. He left his ChatGPT open on my laptop and I saw him asking it about how to fake a deposit for the human eye and asking specifically for that company. These messages were back in April, 2025 in the same feed discussing his ex who was also suspicious of the same thing. We were dating in April, and I guess he cheated on her and was trying to get her back at the same time we were dating. He has created a persona of being a wealthy man, and his ChatGPT history shows a somewhat weird fascination with "elitism" and how to fit into that category. I contacted his ex and she said, "I truly have no idea who he is, how he makes money, etc. and I think he probably lied about most things he told me about him during our relationship." I feel like I am going crazy. I don't have friends in my area and I am so scared to be alone but I know I can't stay with this man that I don't even know. I don't think that I will ever trust anyone again.

The red flags have been confirmed.  Now's the time to buy a tank of gas and start driving towards friends and family.  If you don't have a car, then check out the local bus routes to get back home.

This thread is in the category "bettering a relationship" so the advice should be towards repairing the relationship.  I don't see how we can do that here though since you don't even know who he is.  I do not think you should confront him in person, just a gut feeling from this whole thing.  Get away first and then you can have that conversation.

 96 
 on: September 28, 2026, 11:34:31 PM  
Started by anonymousgf - Last post by ForeverDad
I can't imagine how much more it would take for you to end things once and for all.  Apparently telling lies is what he does.  We don't need to know more than that to listen... "Danger, Will Robinson!"  (Lost in Space reference)

There are old fables, different versions but all have the same motto, whether it is a rattlesnake seeking to come in from the cold or a scorpion trying to hitch a ride on a frog's back to cross a stream, the end result is that the snake or scorpion shows its true colors.  It is up to us not be lulled by the lies.

 97 
 on: September 28, 2026, 07:33:24 PM  
Started by Leofrog - Last post by Leofrog
Hi, joined today to see if I can find any tips on coping with an adult child with BPD. Not sure if I had it too. Had one diagnosis from a dude that didn't even read my file. Any other therapists have said I don't have it. I definitely had risky behaviour. Not super into relationships and don't fear abandonment though. Daughter definitely has it, got her own diagnosis at 19. She's 37 now. At the moment day drinking by hiding alcohol in energy drinks. If she saw this she'd think Id snooped in her room or something, but I haven't, I can tell by her voice, even if just slightly tipsy her voice sounds different. Shes got a drunk voice and a sober voice.

 98 
 on: September 28, 2026, 03:58:40 PM  
Started by anonymousgf - Last post by anonymousgf
To be clear, the ex I contacted is different from the one he was discussing on ChatGPT. I also found out that he has been traveling to RVA since May when he has been telling me that he is going to NYC. He said that he was seeing his dad and didnt want to tell anyone, but why lie about where you are going for so long?

 99 
 on: September 28, 2026, 03:55:10 PM  
Started by Tiger72 - Last post by brixton_b
Excerpt
It has been challenging just to talk about it in terms of a break-up or ending a long-term relationship/marriage because it is so much more than that with a BDP person.

I relate to this so much. Finalized divorce from BPD spouse earlier this year after nearly 17 years of marriage, with a son who's now 10. It's coming up on 2 years since we separated, though that was the second (and final) time we separated. The last several years have been such a whirlwind/rollercoaster/whathaveyou, and it feels like so much more than the more typical divorce stories of just growing apart, or things getting stale, or no longer getting along. And now I'm forced to continue financially supporting someone who never supported me in any way, financially or emotionally, and it feels terrible.

I could write a book about my journey, but in many ways I've continued to enjoy a much better life since I've been able to name my experience as the abusive relationship that it was, and piece things back together to move forward in a much healthier direction.

 100 
 on: September 28, 2026, 03:53:18 PM  
Started by anonymousgf - Last post by anonymousgf
I just found out that my boyfriend has been lying about his identity from the beginning of our relationship. I have questioned his job and he faked a deposit to prove he was employed at this somewhat elite company. He left his ChatGPT open on my laptop and I saw him asking it about how to fake a deposit for the human eye and asking specifically for that company. These messages were back in April, 2025 in the same feed discussing his ex who was also suspicious of the same thing. We were dating in April, and I guess he cheated on her and was trying to get her back at the same time we were dating. He has created a persona of being a wealthy man, and his ChatGPT history shows a somewhat weird fascination with "elitism" and how to fit into that category. I contacted his ex and she said, "I truly have no idea who he is, how he makes money, etc. and I think he probably lied about most things he told me about him during our relationship." I feel like I am going crazy. I don't have friends in my area and I am so scared to be alone but I know I can't stay with this man that I don't even know. I don't think that I will ever trust anyone again.

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