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« on: June 12, 2013, 09:18:08 PM »

My uBPDex talked to me while on campus today. The drama in her life is at an all time high. She's getting married in August but told me she got actually married in the court house a few weeks ago. She then started crying, saying for me to help her get out of the marriage. She said her husband or whatever he is now isn't me and that she misses me. She then got a call from him and he found out we talked at school. They then pretty much got in a fight. Seems like the sudden marriage is really triggering her. She said she feels like she has no control anymore and that the wedding planning is creating a lot of drama. She definitely dropped a few quick comments under her breath about leaving the guy. The one that was craziest was "you'll be a good second husband". I told her she shouldn't get married with these feelings but that I want no part in the demise of their relationship. I told her its her responsibility to figure out if she should get married. I'm guessing their relationship is getting close to the end if she's saying these things. I also noticed that she is in the habit of hiding her ring finger. She always folds her arms. Then again who knows... . this guy seems to be full speed ahead with her. It doesn't matter what she does. This is making my time with her seem like a picnic.
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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2013, 01:02:59 AM »

It is times like these ( I have not had them with my BPDexgf yet, but I forsee them) that I think you have a choice to make.

From my perspective you can either:

A) Feel "glad", or vindicated, that she is still struggling and obviously all over the place

or

B) Feel sympathetic that she is still suffering and lost.

I personally defer to B). 

I loved my BPDex.  Still do to some extent.  Love as a person at this point.  It may give me a sense of security, that it WASN'T ME, but beyond anything else I want to see her happy.  The reality is that that happiness can't come from being with me; but I still don't wish anything for her but to find happiness.
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2013, 02:58:47 AM »

Getting in the middle of a love triangle is messy business.  Add some emotional problems into it and its like kerosene on a fire.

Here's something to consider - people with BPD struggle with boundaries and impulsivity.  Its probably not going to even register the bad form in all this and the inappropriate behavior with both her husband and you.

But, it obviously registers with you.  Practice your own good boundaries here.  It's okay to step away when someone wants you to save them from their marriage and be her second husband. Her marriage may fail - don't let it be your part that is the catalyst.

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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2013, 03:33:07 AM »

My uBPDex talked to me while on campus today. The drama in her life is at an all time high. She's getting married in August but told me she got actually married in the court house a few weeks ago. She then started crying, saying for me to help her get out of the marriage. She said her husband or whatever he is now isn't me and that she misses me. She then got a call from him and he found out we talked at school. They then pretty much got in a fight. Seems like the sudden marriage is really triggering her. She said she feels like she has no control anymore and that the wedding planning is creating a lot of drama. She definitely dropped a few quick comments under her breath about leaving the guy. The one that was craziest was "you'll be a good second husband". I told her she shouldn't get married with these feelings but that I want no part in the demise of their relationship. I told her its her responsibility to figure out if she should get married. I'm guessing their relationship is getting close to the end if she's saying these things. I also noticed that she is in the habit of hiding her ring finger. She always folds her arms. Then again who knows... . this guy seems to be full speed ahead with her. It doesn't matter what she does. This is making my time with her seem like a picnic.

Being that she's BPD it's no surprise that she's throwing out her "bait" to take the temperature of your willingness to rescue her from her impulsive decisions. Her desperate please may stroke your ego and your desire to save and rescue but it would be smart to step back and assess the situation for what is is.

Your ex is a grown woman. You cannot rescue her from her choices or save her from bad decisions. Her life, her decisions. That's one.

Two.  What are your boundaries? What is the line in the sand that you've drawn for yourself? You are not obligated to save her from herself or to live in the FOG of fear, guilt and obligation.

Three. Do you want her back? Do you believe that you deserve to be her "second husband"? I'm sensing that in some respect you're clinging on to her words but no where in this story has your ex held herself as accountable for her actions. She wants you to be the white knight and I think on some irrational level it's tapping into your sense of worth. Do not delude yourself into this fantasy based thinking.

Four. Remember she's has a mental illness that sometimes renders her to be ruled by the unstable petulant child in her so do not fool yourself into believing that she desires to be fixed. Only intensive therapy can help her get better. Not the right guy, not "real" love, or the perfect one, or the soul mate fantasy so don't fall for it.

Five. This situation just sounds messy. Step away and do not allow her to pull you into her sinking ship. Value your life and know that you deserve to have your own sanity and peace of mind.

It is not our job to fix, repair or rescue them no matter how powerless they sometimes paint themselves to be. They are not victims. And your ex can figure this out on her own.

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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2013, 09:39:39 AM »

Octoberfest - I agree. My days of trying to find validation are over. Once you realize that they are suffering from this stuff, you feel more sympathy for their issues.

Greenmango - Yeah, I told her that I didn't want to be a part of breaking anything up. I kind of feel like she is looking for that "rescuer" now, which I remember before we broke up she was doing the same thing. I will not be a part of this relationship ending.

BPDspell - I definitely can't save her nor do I want to when it comes to marriage. I will tell her my opinions. She's making a lot of bad choices left and right. I try not to get too involved but when she presents them to me, I have to say my opinion. It's sad to me that she's with a guy now who seems to be just as reckless as her, sending them both spiraling down. She really is a product of who she is with. It's not my responsibility but yeah, I still care and hope that she is ok. She's acted very good around me the few times I see her, which if not for this site I'd probably want to get back with her. But I have to remember that she probably hasn't changed. Even when I saw her yesterday she mentioned that while in line in starbucks some guy had just got her number and she his. Not sure if that was made up to see if I got jealous (which it didn't) but there was definitely a new guys number in her phone, which made me remember that kind of bs she did with me.

I think the fact that she is now "off the market" is probably really bugging her and triggering the abandonment fears. She wants to be wanted but if she's married, she suddenly isn't as desirable.

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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2013, 02:58:04 PM »

I was reading this post and it reminded me of my brother who also dated a BPD with bipolar disorder. I think they were together for just over two years and he was going to move to the same city with her after college which was when she broke it off. Anyways another three years she moves to the same city as him. Gets engaged to another dude. Calls and sends my brother pictures of her (use your imagination) wanting to meet up. Then on her wedding day she texts and called my brother to run and stop her from getting married hundreds of miles away. Long story short he never answered those attempts to reach out to him and he met and married his own girl of his dreams.
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2013, 03:37:40 PM »

Thanks for posting that story. That's inspiring and I will do what your brother did and not respond to anything like that. Her marriage will fail one way or another - even if they stay together. I saw how they interact and its a nightmare. I'm on vacation right now and it's been great to get away and realize that relaxing like this probably never would happen with a BPD significant other. I probably should hope she gets married and moves away like she is planning to... . it be the best for my recovery.
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