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« on: April 16, 2019, 06:36:21 PM »

Well its been 3 months NC. Been hitting the gym for 2 1/2 hours a day for 5 times a week for the last months. I was feeling awesome, thought i was almost done with her. Last week my body crashed of tiredness, i couldnt hold up a glass of water. Had to take 10 days of rest of physical activities. Since then i started to feel monstrous hate for her. Im angry like i have never beem in my life with someone, which is curious, i never hated no one, im always the "put the other cheek" type of guy. But now i feel like im gonna blow up like a pot in the oven. To remember that she replaced me 3 days later of the brokeup with the guy that she was obviously cheating on me. To see the fake new identity she took, to act like she is the new messiah, talking bull about stars and destinys, and here am i, reconstructing me, in the long road, the hard one. It just gets me nuts. I feel like betrayed to the bones. I feel like all the things that my parenta taught me, to be kind, to be honourable, to put the other cheek, to be there for everyone who needs it, i feel that all of that was bull too. Like all the values i have are outdated, and a miserable person like my expwBPD still has got me crippled. My blood is pumping revenge. I want to see her broken, like everyone of us, like me. I want that life drag her down like she drown me. Hope that miserable people like her get that freakin karma in the bones. But no, nice guys finish last. The most idiotic phrase of all it stills sounds true to me.
Hope this phase go away soon. I hate that too.

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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2019, 07:46:22 PM »

i feel your anger, friend.

i know what a difficult grieving process this can be. anger and feelings of injustice were really present in my own recovery.

i also know it helps to talk, and it helps to vent. i really liked putting all of my anger in writing. i could say whatever i wanted and really vent that anger without any consequence.

i realized that some of my anger was actually toward myself, or maybe a better way of putting it was that it was fear. i felt betrayed, i felt vulnerable, i felt powerless; thats scary, and anger protected me. does any of that ring true for you?

do take it easy. rest is every bit as important as physical activity. if we arent getting rest, powerful feelings can really be exacerbated.

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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2019, 09:59:30 PM »

Man I could have written this because I have so been there.
Try not to get stuck there.
Use the gym it totally saved me some days.
It’s sounds so hollow and cliche  but it gets better.
But I’ll definitely take the real angry days over the debilitating grief days. I’m 4 years out and doing great but I still experience both angry days and grief days so probably do what I didn’t and talk to therapist or something.
I’m sorry you’re going through this and wish I could fast forward you to the better days ahead.
So don’t do anything that will sabotage your journey.
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2019, 08:45:40 AM »

once removed tobiasfunke thank you bros.
To be honest, at least consciously im not angry at me. I dont regret all the things that i have done for her, and all the dust that she make me ate, clearly was part of the learning in the journey.
My anger is 100% cause of her. To act like nothing happened, to justify her decisions projecting them on me, to show that she is "happy" and i could be going like forever.
I dont want a charm, i dont need her validation; i just want that life get the payback and see all her "world" crumble.
As infantile as it sounds, i need divine justice.
Sorry for the grammar mistakes, english is not my native tongue.

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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2019, 08:10:29 PM »

Hello, FJM. Your post really stuck out to me because I understand your anger and feelings. It sucks to be torn in this way. Vengeance isn’t us, but sometimes we wish it upon people that have hurt us. It’s normal to feel that way to an extent. Eventually, I think that it’s important to ask ourselves how the downfall of another serves us in our individual growth.

Like once removed, I’ve been in your shoes. I paced the floor with those feelings. You contributed a great deal to the relationship. It’s hard to piece that together with the way the relationship ended.

Think about something. You’re feeling low and lovesick over the loss. You’re processing what happened and it’s very uncomfortable to do so which is understandable. You’re not blocking your feelings. You’re going through a very difficult phase of detaching. Anger.

How are you feeling now?

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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2019, 05:54:02 AM »

FJM. She is already broken. She has BPD, her brain is distorted/impaired. She suffers most of the time because she carries a broken heart since childhood onward. The only thing you can do is to protect yourself and learn how to heal and grow emotionally so you won’t be manipulated by a predator BPD who is only intent in a relationship is to emotionally destroy you like a vampire and they move on to the next victim.
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2019, 10:26:32 AM »

To remember that she replaced me 3 days later... ...she was obviously cheating on me. To see the fake new identity she took...

She did not replace you, as a unique and valuable human being you are not replaceable.  My ex cheated on us and now is living with someone else -but I actually feel deep pity for her, because I know in my heart I am not replaceable.  My ex acted out of impulse (cheated), which created shame for her, then deep depression and ultimately rage.  In one of her rages she broke up with me.

You noticed her new identity.  This shift in identity is evidence of the incredible inner torment she feels -it is not a reinvention, but a collapse of her previous self image.  From what I have read this is painful and confusing for them.  Lacking of a firm and permanent 'self' is frightening -I cannot even imagine.

Can you imagine how hard it would be for you, FJM, to suddenly change everything about yourself?  She did not destroy your relationship with her out of strength.  No, she may have destroyed it  because her inner demon was desperately afraid you would leave her.  Perhaps in her emotional maelstrom she suddenly didn't recognize you anymore.  Mine could literally forget about us when I was away from her.  Even if you could ask her, she might not know the truth of the matter.  Getting her to admit the truth is a whole other story (no likely to happen).

BPD is a serious personality disorder.  Hard to diagnose, hard to treat and incredibly hard to live with.  People with a BPD diagnosis may be turned away from some therapists 'because they are too hard to handle'.  I have read where psychologists will sometimes hesitate to make a BPD diagnosis, because having a BPD diagnosis can make the patient's life much harder when seeking future medical attention.

My ex literally hears voices telling her she is bad, unworthy of love, will always be alone, that she should die.  I saw her suffer from dysphoria -a depression so deep she could barely move and could not speak.  She sometimes would cut herself to 'restart time'.  She could be so sad for her time would stop -she was in a perpetual hell.  This is not the perfect villain with a Machiavellian plan for my torment and destruction -this is the mark of a very hurt and desperate human being.

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I feel like all the things that my parents taught me, to be kind, to be honorable, to turn the other cheek, to be there for everyone who needs it

Your parents taught you well.  We must turn the other cheek, but we only have two cheeks and once both have been slapped we must then consider if we are perhaps we need to change our actions.  I agree we should, as good people be there for other people... up to a point.  Once I learn someone is dangerous to me I remove this person from my life -it takes me a while and perhaps I try too hard and too long.  But ultimately my self preservation is my first responsibility.

“When someone shows you who they are believe them; the first time.” - Maya Angelou

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I want to see her broken... ...life [to] drag her down... ...karma...
FJM if she does in fact suffer from BPD she is broken and far more broken than we as neurotypical people can understand..  Unless she receives treatment, usually they need to hit rock bottom to embrace therapy, her life will continue to be a day in and day out living hell.  --I would not wish BPD on my worst enemy.

Where is the karma?  If like many people suffering from BPD, she had an incredibly painful childhood, where is the Karma?  When she goes through life desperately needing to feel loved, and yet has no ability to be in a healthy relationship -where is the karma?

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...nice guys finish last.
No... Actually we don't in the long run.  At the end of the day we can rest assured we are living to our code and doing what we believe is right.  We do not live under a black cloud of shame.  We do not have a closet full of skeletons (bad memories) which haunt us day in and day out.  Whether in business or interpersonal relationships I believe kindness is a worthwhile endeavor.

JNChell pointed out anger is part of the grieving process.  Denial, Anger, Bargaining, depression and Acceptance.  Finding acceptance, which means having a peaceful heart, is our goal.  I am glad to hear you are hitting the gym, but please remember moderation.  A muscle tear or tendonitis will not make you feel better...  There is no 'denying' or 'bargaining' with a muscle tear...   And anger only makes them worse... [I had been a power lifter when I was young --pushing too hard and having to take weeks or months off due to an injury felt horrible]

I was never able to be angry at my ex.  I felt like it would be like being mad at a cat for being a cat.  I feel deep pity for her and for the relationship we both lost.  If I have any rage it is against a world where little girls are treated so badly they end up broken and incapable of having a loving relationship.  --I was devastated when our relationship ended, but could not find anger.

zeus123 used the word 'predator' and 'victim'.  Actually, from my observation my ex is not a predator she is desperate and sad young woman trying to just make it through the day.  I am by no meaning of the word a victim -I never have been and I with luck never will be.

People with BPD are not psychopaths [barring a rare comorbidity... yep... I read a few of the studies].  They have feelings -too many feelings.  They treated us badly not out of sadism, but because of desperately bad coping mechanisms.  They are feeling crushing sadness and shame so their poor coping mechanisms might cause them to impulsively cheat on us -this brings on shame.  Shame requires even more desperate coping.  This is the pitiful cycle of BPD as I understand it.  Personality disorders are life long conditions which can be managed through intense therapy -but they never completely go away.

Be angry -but let it go.  Don't get stuck and don't worry about revenge -she will take care of this on her own.

Wicker Man.
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2019, 04:52:19 PM »

wickerman your words hit me. The majority of the days i make the effort to make your analysis; which is pretty close to my T one and life is kinda cool. But somedays i hope she get the same s*it she put to me.
Again thank you for your words, i had to make me a coffe in between them for the pleasure of reading it.

JNChell im feeling really good again, doing lots of things again. Rebuilding myself, the process is slow and long but its the one that honors how im feeling deeply.

Thank u all for your help, really needed it.
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2019, 08:04:16 PM »

Keep in touch with us. We’re always here.
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2019, 09:41:34 PM »

Oh FJM...  I can totally relate.  My BPD relationship was a friendship, but a very deep friendship like no other friendship I had before.   I truly believed we would grow old as best friends sitting in a rocking chair’s exchanging stories and supporting each other.. cheesy but true.   And I sacrificed a ton for this person.  She suffered from a lot of depression etc. that was probably related to the BPD and I gave her everything – my time, gifts, hugs, support. Drove her to therapy. Threw her birthday parties when there was no one else to do so .  Etc. etc. etc.  Included her on every vacation with my family.  I could go on and on.   And then after four years of friendship on January 1 of this year she blocked all of my contact information and has never spoken to me again.  No explanation at all.   I cried the first two months.   That is gradually getting better, but now I am where are you are... angry.  Very very angry.   And I’m not that type of person. I’ve always been known as being the kindest one in any group.   But it’s like I want her to feel the same kind of pain that she has made me feel.  Which honestly is a terrible feeling ( The pain itself and the feeling of wanting that for somebody else because that is just not me.)   Like someone else posted though – I know that she already does feel that because BPD is a curse that she will have to live with forever .  The rational side of me knows that,  but the emotional side still has a lot of trouble.   I wish I had some amazing words of wisdom but all I can say right now is that I can relate and I do think it gets a little better every day.   And maybe one of these days our rational and emotional heads will get in sync and we will be at peace with the fact that people with BPD suffer something awful and no matter how badly they have hurt us it will never be as bad as the pain of living your entire life With BPD.  At least for now know that you have a support group here that understands.
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