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« on: November 03, 2015, 08:38:47 AM »

Apologies in advanced, this is probably a bit jumbled, I'm having trouble putting my thoughts into words.

I'm confused, can you have reached acceptance yet still be hurting? Nearly eight months and all but the first week has been NC. I did the right thing at the start by saying that I did not want to be friends only and after not responding to a text message and email I was immediately and clinically cut out. I went NC because I finally set healthy boundaries for myself and chose to no longer accept those behaviours and actions of hers in my life anymore (or from anyone else ever for that matter).

I'd recently posted about my ex walking past my office window (yet she is "scared of me" and how in an instant all the intense feelings of pain and abandonment came flooding back.

A week later she has not just walked past my office window but stopped out the front (less than a meter from me) laughing and "having a great time" with her work colleagues on the way out to lunch. Later she walked back past alone, stopped and looked at my car four different times before walking on around the corner. The receptionist saw too and thought the whole thing was exceptionally weird and not normal.

The weight of evidence suggests that she has not changed (through solicitor contact only with bizarre and unreasonable demands) and it seems like this is some sort of game to her where it is contact, but on her terms without giving up control by making direct contact. I am trying not to project though it feels like she almost wants me to come out and talk to her thereby being accidental contact.

I do accept the reality of the situation and know that I cannot change it. I am doing the only thing I can in setting healthy boundaries for myself and getting on with my life. I know that as much as I would like to I cannot contact her as this would hand control to her and say that her behaviour and actions were acceptable. It's taking everything I have not to reach out to her.

I still miss her terribly all the same and some part of me still hopes that she will make contact, though if she wanted to I'm sure she would have by now. If she does make contact I know that the only way forward would be for her to accept and take responsibility for her actions and behaviours - highly unlikely at best.

It all still hurts so much, since the second stop past my office I'm back to sleepless nights and thinking of her on a regular basis through out the day and night. I feel like this will be something I will never be fully over

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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2015, 02:37:20 PM »

MincedGarlic

Good for you on setting healthy boundaries.  That is very hard to do, especially when you want nothing more than to reach out to them and let them know how much you care for and how you want them to feel loved.  It’s amazing how those feelings come flooding back after a fleeting glimpse of them.

Her walking past your window is probably her way of baiting you.  She lost her emotional play toy - this will continue for a while but it will soon stop when she finds her next toy.

Like you, I have reached the conclusion that my ex will not change. My ex is a little more evolved and I don’t think she will ever contact me again but her baiting is baffling as she initiated no contact to play the roll of the victim and or to be in control.

I too hope that some day I will be over this but I'm starting to wonder as I too still have the sleepless nights thinking about her and the relationship.
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2015, 03:48:27 PM »

Good job with the healthy boundaries.  Yes, indeed, they would love to have us around when they want us.  They love to have their cake and eat it, too.  But real life doesn't work that way.  So, right on.

From my perspective, there really isn't a need to weigh evidence.  The further you get out of it, and the more you allow yourself to grieve, the more you will see things clearly and the more you will be glad you are out of it.

I don't actively "hurt" like I did.  I'm re-married, happily, and I have zero desire toward my BPD ex-wife.  But that doesn't mean I'm completely "over it" in the sense of having wounds.  It takes time, sometimes a lot of time, for those to heal.  And having to deal with her triggers feelings -not feelings of desire but rather feelings of rage and revulsion, and sometimes pity.

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If she does make contact I know that the only way forward would be for her to accept and take responsibility for her actions and behaviours - highly unlikely at best.

I know that everyone has their own story, but from my story I highly recommend that you don't fall for it if she comes around claiming she's changed or is willing to "take responsibility" as you put it.  These are pretty engrained, hard-wired patterns of behavior, etched into their souls.  After my BPD ex wife and I divorced (finally, after 2 previous near-divorces), I fell for it.  She promised to get counseling.  What actually happened is that while screwing a few other guys, she noticed that I was dating someone.  That sent her over the edge -see, she can move on, but I'm not allowed to.  So, she came crying to my front door.  I laughed at first (literally), but she sucked me in pretty good with all of her promises and "action" to try and change.  Suddenly, she was moving back into my house, and in an instant she was back being the same domineering, deceptive person.  Within 3-4 months she was screwing one of the same guys, again, along with the 18 year old friend of our adult son... .all behind my back, with me trying to (again) hold it all together.

I truly believe what a counselor told me years ago, "The only thing that will help her is if God smashes her into a million pieces and puts her back together again."  And even if that did happen, I probably still wouldn't trust it... .and it wouldn't matter.  If that happened to her, I would let that be good for her and for our kids.  And it would sure make co-parenting easier, but that's about it.  I've found a great woman, and I've married her.  That chapter of my life is closed.  

These people are broken, broken, broken.  Period.  What pains me most is hearing the enduring hope of our adult son for his mother, the woman he has been chasing in vain, longingly, for his entire life.  He can't let it go.  He can't let her go.  He still thinks that some day she'll finally accept him, "take responsibility", and they will live happily ever after.  No matter how many times she betrays him, blames him for things, screws his friends, humiliates him, or whatever, he still follows her around like a puppy dog, waiting for her.  And it shows.  He can't hold a job.  He's addicted to drugs.  He's homeless.  And he has severe emotional problems that have had him landed in jail on a few occasions, all while his mother gets to look like the good guy and him the mentally disturbed son.  Holding onto these people has serious long-term effects.

So, yes... .it's going to hurt.  But keep on keeping on.  It will get better.  The only path forward, I'm convinced, is the path out.  You can't expect to be free while you still camp on the borders of Egypt.
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2015, 04:33:11 PM »

It all still hurts so much, since the second stop past my office I'm back to sleepless nights and thinking of her on a regular basis through out the day and night. I feel like this will be something I will never be fully over

Hi minced garlic, this hurt will pass.

I promise. Just keep putting one foot in front of the other. I am two years out of the relationship and I have been much better for almost a full year.

I went to therapy for about six months, that helped a lot and I ran every night outside in the cool air.

it's scary I know to hurt every day, but it will stop. You are not doomed to feel this way forever. I learned a lot from my marriage to an xhwuBPD, lessons I use every day and in my current relationship. I am blessed.

my best to you

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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2015, 08:07:21 PM »

Thanks for your replies

I set the boundaries and initiated NC (except for solicitors) as I wasn't prepared to go with her terms of contact managed via her best friend. I didn't and still don't see that there is any other option other than remaining NC unless she initiated contact because I have learnt that I first must respect my boundaries before anyone else will.

Yet still accepting the reality of the situation I'm continuing to hurt and whilst moving forward with my life can't /won't let go of the idea that with the baiting / attempts at 'accidental' contact that she may make contact directly. I still am not ready to let go of this idea. Does this mean that I am not fully accepting reality or can I still accept the reality of the situation whilst I can't / won't let this idea go?

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