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BarbHH

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« on: December 14, 2016, 12:24:01 PM »

Hi there,
I met my husband over 4 years ago, it was all amazing, never this good. We were engaged after 2 months, married after 11. There were plenty of  Red flag/bad  (click to insert in post) that I ignored, and then, my life became hell. Literally hell. I, who has always been very sociable and brave and daring and independant, I ended up being a terrified mouse, hidden at home, feeling to stupid to meet people (whereas I used to travel the World on my own, be very successful, have tons of friends etc), terrorized by my husband, incapable and scared to make even the most insignificant of decisions. For the outside world, he is perfect : bright handsome, adventurous, funny, reliable, sociable etc. Only at home, he could be attrocious, he even attacked me physically quite a few times, of course always blaming me for pushing him to do so afterwards... .
Anyway, it's always the same story. He started a schema therapy about 1.5 years ago, and was diagnosed with BPD alongside with depression, and also a high rate of dependency, paranoia, hysteria, etc. But he denied the results. Anyway, I left him in April this year.
Now, he says that with the therapy, he can understand he is sick, and he has hurt me, and that there are things that he admits (like he now seems to accept that he is the one who was violent, not me, as he previously said) that he wouldn't in the past.
I have done a lot of work on myself, also with a therapist, and am not willing to ever let myself be treated like pooh again. But some part of me still love the bugger. He is really quite amazing, outside from the BPD of course.
But can I trust him? He could be manipulating me. He has tried that in the past, saying everything I wanted to hear, and then the opposite a few weeks later, blaming me for loving being a victim, and being mentally ill when he is healthy etc.
I was thinking of two things: sending him a list of everything that happened, not to hurt him, but because I think he doesn't know or remember why I am so hurt. Not using an accusing tone, but just stating what happened. And if I should get back together with him, I was thinking of asking him to tell the truth to his friends and family, who have mostly blamed the whole thing on me (they only have his version) when really I was in agony (ok, he also is unhappy, that's why he turns into the monster). It's just, it's hard enough to have to accept that what has been done cannot be changed, without having to carry what does not belong to me (he's convinced everybody that I am mentally ill, violent, until the point some of his friends could understand while he attacked me). Should I never see those people again, I wouldn't really care so much (ok, a little, but I can live with that), but should we try to get back together, I really couldn't stand having to bear the guilt of all of that drama that went on on my own in front of those people, and be judged for it.
Am I just delusional? Can he actually get better? Is our story at a dead end? Or if I want it to work out, I just have to accept the humiliation to be considered a freak? Is there a chance that seeing a list of what he's done makes him realise the extent of what's happened (he still doesn't get it)?
Sorry if it's too long, and thank you for your support.
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2016, 02:11:09 PM »

He may or may not be manipulating you, but you have to look at it like this, it's very possible that he means what he says.  Sometimes they do see things differently when someone else other than you says it.  If he does mean it, that doesn't mean he is cured.  It just means he is seeing it differently right now.  Is he going to continue with his therapy?  He is probably a good person, but is controlled by the disorder.  Maybe you can try things slowly to see how he is without jumping in fully.  Gauging his actions/reactions to certain things and building things gradually over time if he really has changed and continues his therapy.  You could let him know all the things that you will not stand for such as physical violence towards you.  I have a BPD wife and she will not go to therapy or even counselling so at least he made that step.
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2016, 03:19:22 PM »


Am I just delusional? Can he actually get better? Is our story at a dead end? Or if I want it to work out, I just have to accept the humiliation to be considered a freak? Is there a chance that seeing a list of what he's done makes him realise the extent of what's happened (he still doesn't get it)?
Sorry if it's too long, and thank you for your support.

Not at all delusional.

Yes he can get better.  Not a dead end.

I don't understand the considered a freak question.  Please explain more.

The list is a bad idea to actually give to him.  If you want to discuss making a list to present to your T and discuss... .that is likely a good idea.

No need to apologize for length... .most of us have been there. 

Questions for you:  Do you want to get back with him, if he has made progress?  Are you divorced now or separated?

Are you willing to accept professional guidance to repair your r/s (relationship)

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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2016, 06:08:13 PM »

Hi, and thanks for your answers.
The freak thing is the fact that I am seen by his friends and family as a very problematic and mentally sick woman who has caused a lot of problems to my poor husband.
Now, I accept that I had some co-dependency issues, otherwise I would have left long before, but I have addressed them (I actually have learned many things about myself, it's a great thing), but those people are in denial regarding my husband's condition, and have never known the real me, the bubbly, independant, social, funny, courageous, loving, confident woman that I am (again). So yes, it is quite hard for me to accept to carry this image if I am to see them again.
Anyway, we are now separated since April, but I still haven't filed for divorce. We have seen each other a few times, and he was sweet, but I don't know if I can trust him. He changes his mind so quickly, it really depends who he talks to.
I take note for the list, I think it's probably a good thing for me to have when talking to him, rather than to give to him.
 The question is that part of me wants to get back together with him, and the other part is telling me to stay away, divorce and stay safe, because I don't know if I can trust him. It's difficult.
I've had councelling, he has therapy, we've done couple therapy. Honnestly, I am getting a bit tired with therapies. On top of that, we've done non violent communication, mediation etc. You name it, we've tried it. But if we were to try again, I would willing to try professional guidance again, it wouldn't be a problem, but I just don't want to rely on exterior help forever.
And I have realised that I don't want to have to try to adapt my every thought and word and move and action to his disorder again. I just can't live like that. It very nearly destroyed me totally before I left him.

But the fact that you say he can get better is very helpful. Are there many success stories out there?

Thanks a lot.
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2016, 07:22:21 PM »


Just to confirm:  Are you in T (therapy) right now?

Big rules to get used to:  Other people get to think what they want to think.  They can think you are the problem... .or they can think you have a million dollars under you mattress... .and that you hate cookies... .

The list thing:  Why would you want it while talking to him?  I'm concerned about your desire for a list.  Very likely that can easily lead to you wanting to convince him to agree with you on the list.  What if his list is different.

I do think a list "just for you" could be a help in T... .and on this board. 

Be very careful with lists... especially with lists that contain your view of his wrongdoings

Accept that if you want a successful r/s (relationship) that professional guidance will be needed for a long time. 

Think of it as "going to school" to learn skills.

If there is a view of T where the T agrees with you and convinces your partner of certain things he has done wrong... .then we need to spend time discussing goals in T.

It IS very important that you learn to live your life... have your thoughts... .have your emotions... .AND... .let him have his.

Live your life for you... .make healthy decisions about what you will and won't contribute to a r/s.  Then be consistent and see if the r/s works.

If it does... .great.

If it doesn't... .you have been true to yourself and should have an easier time healing from the broken r/s.

Right now... .it appears you were not true to yourself... .and have a broken r/s.  It's obvious you feel poorly about that.

Hang in there... .we can help.   

How does all of this sound to you?

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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2016, 11:12:17 AM »

Hey BarbHH,

If you got back together, what makes you think things would turn out differently?  Your story is familiar: a great beginning followed by a baffling period of emotional unrest that turns into an ongoing state of drama and turmoil.  Have I summed it up?  Only you can decide whether to recycle, but suggest you give it careful thought before jumping back into the BPD soup.

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