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Author Topic: Pregnant, violent towards self and others.  (Read 391 times)
Foolingmyself

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« on: March 09, 2025, 07:09:42 AM »

In the last two weeks my daughter has punched herself in her pregnant stomach, taken heart pills that don’t belong to her and beat the hell out of a woman in a bar. She cut me off and blames me for not supporting her. I shared these things with her doctor but she is still wildly unstable. She told me she hopes her baby dies. She lives out of state and I cannot go to her because my spouse is sick. I have been preparing myself for a call that she has died. I have nothing left anymore. When is it okay to let go? How do I let go? I cannot seem to help her and I feel like I am stuck in cement.
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2025, 07:22:56 PM »

In the last two weeks my daughter has punched herself in her pregnant stomach, taken heart pills that don’t belong to her and beat the hell out of a woman in a bar. She cut me off and blames me for not supporting her. I shared these things with her doctor but she is still wildly unstable. She told me she hopes her baby dies. She lives out of state and I cannot go to her because my spouse is sick. I have been preparing myself for a call that she has died. I have nothing left anymore. When is it okay to let go? How do I let go? I cannot seem to help her and I feel like I am stuck in cement.

Hello and welcome to the family!  I'm so sorry we're meeting under these circumstances and i feel your pain.  My BPD daughter is 26 and thankfully past her most damaging BPD tendencies, but I still recall being in your exact position for far too long.

Can I ask, how old is your daughter?  And what's her current living arrangements?

The reason I ask is because it sounds like she's been abusive for awhile now, and she's shifting the blame solely on you.  That's very common with BPD and immaturity.

Another question- what was your response when your daughter punched her stomach, or took heart pills?

When my daughter did stuff like that, I dialed 9-1-1 and had police sent to her.  They would see that she was unstable and a threat to herself/others, so they'd take her for an involuntary examination at a local hospital.  From there, a doctor would send for a psych consult, which sometimes took hours or even days.  Then they'd either release her or send her to an in-patient facility, for treatment up to a week.

This might sound terrible, but the best thing you can do for your kid is teach her right from wrong.  It's wrong to abuse you, and it's wrong to abuse herself and/or others.  In fact, it's against the law.  Right now you're stuck in the middle of all this, taking your daughter's abuse and hoping for someone to save her, but the honest truth is that she can't be saved until she's ready to actually get some help.  She needs to realize that it's a need in her life...and nothing can change until she figures that out.

However, that doesn't mean that you should blindly accept abuse either.  Part of teaching right from wrong is how we talk to others, and how we show respect to people we're close to.  You did well in cutting her off financially, but you should also cut her off every time she chooses to abuse you for one of a million things. 

Why?  Because anytime you try to take the blame for her chaos, it enables her to be even more abusive.  It tells her mind, "I should treat mom this way because it's all her fault....just look at how she's reacting."  That has to stop completely, you can't continue to validate the invalid since it only makes her "sicker".

How do you stop?  For starters, don't argue anymore.  That's an activity that takes two people.  So when she gets ugly, demanding, rude, etc then you tell her that you have to go for a bit for your own wellbeing.  Then just hang up the phone.  Make this an obvious, predictable pattern- when you're abusive, I'm walking away.

Next, don't be afraid to dial 9-1-1.  Let her go though the process of hospital, in-patient, etc.  Maybe she hates you for it, but she hates you anyway.  Your job as a parent is not to be liked, it's to protect your kid (in this case, from herself).  Make her face her actions head-on and stop accepting responsibility for them.  She's 100% responsible for her own actions and must be held accountable.

I hope that helps!
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2025, 03:12:13 AM »

Thank you for responding. I can’t even absorb what you posted at the moment because after I posted, I found out my husband has cancer. I can’t even think about my daughter at the moment because everything is moving at warp speed to get my husband to have major surgery. Appreciate that you responded.
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2025, 07:16:48 PM »

Thank you for responding. I can’t even absorb what you posted at the moment because after I posted, I found out my husband has cancer. I can’t even think about my daughter at the moment because everything is moving at warp speed to get my husband to have major surgery. Appreciate that you responded.

I'm so very sorry, praying for your husband and your family now.
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2025, 08:22:02 PM »

I’m so sorry your husband is ill and your daughter is unstable. Look, your daughter is an adult, she’s responsible for herself, not you. Your husband really needs your help right now, and you need to take care of yourself too, because of all the stress you are under. I’d advise that you take a break from your daughter for the time being, because she is toxic right now. If she makes threats, you can offer to call 911 for her, and if she declines your offer, that’s her choice.  If the police call you about your daughter’s behavior, you can choose to provide information, while it’s completely within your right to decline to pick her up, take her in or bail her out. The police might decide to take her to the hospital, which sounds like where she belongs right now.  Let your daughter face the consequences of her behavior, not you. If you bail her out, she’ll never learn anything, except that you are to blame for all her issues, which is how children with untreated BPD think.

My sister’s ex is an undiagnosed NPD. More than once, police picked him up for erratic behavior, and my sister was called to take him in.  She refused to take him.  Once, as a last resort, the police decided to take him to the hospital, where he stayed for nearly two weeks to receive various treatments. That was a very good outcome in my opinion. Otherwise, he would have continued to blame my sister and everyone else for his ongoing problems.
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2025, 08:19:25 PM »

She did actually call my husband and made a brief mention of how she was praying for him but then went into complaining about how I betrayed her. She has not reached out to me which is fine. Every day is something else to get ready for the cancer surgery so I’m really busy with my husband. Right now I’m just shutting out any thoughts other than getting him through the surgery and whatever is beyond.
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