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Author Topic: It is impossible to communicate with my husband and I am pregnant  (Read 657 times)
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« on: January 18, 2019, 08:08:11 AM »

Hi,
First time here and I hope I will get some advice. My husband has BPD, we are together for 7 years but lately is almost impossible to communicate with him in a decent way and his crises often than ever but he is convinced that things will be ok. I am pregnant and this makes things more difficult for me.
We had a disagreement last Saturday over going out with some guys that he calls them incorrectly friends. Are more like drinking buddies and just it. I didn't want to go to meet them because is not fun. They just drink heavely and talk about nothing. I said No to going to meet them and the rage started. We are dressed to go out for dinner (I offered to pay for it) and suddenly he said is not hungry and is not going and returned back home. When I asked him if was because I disagreed to go with him and his friends, he hardly admitted and started to blame me for ruining his mood and for being stuck in the house all the time because of me ( is not true). I could feel the rage increasing in him and the same the blame. In that moment, I realised is happening again. So, I said to him to go to meet them but without me. (I can't consider them my friends  and he shouldn't consider them also. They know almost nothing about him and his life/ problems. Plus when is drunk is more difficult than ever. Recent he had a spinal surgery and nobody from his family or "friends" was there. I was the only one minding him. Even in the hospital, in the last day he had a crise and treated me badly). So, when he was criticised me for everything under the sun, I said to compromise. We will go for dinner and after he will go alone to meet his "friends". I reminded him also that if we disagree about something, this doesn't mean that we stopped caring about each other. Didn't work. Now, after a violent fight before my doctor appointment, we are not talking (6 days in a row for now). He is sleeping separately and I don't have access at my own car because he refused to give me the car keys. Is not the first time when is acting like this when he is in crises but now my situation is different and all this is making me so anxious and depressed . He said horrible hurting things to me, as usual. He can see things only black or white. I told him between this are other colours. For him is his opinion or nothing. I was all the time the one who initiated the peace but now I am feeling overwhelmed. What can/ should I do? He don't want to take antidepressants or see a therapist and I feel I do not know how to handle him anymore. Any thoughts/ advice? Thank you.
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2019, 04:09:42 PM »

Hi isabella11

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I'm going to try to reflect back your situation and maybe throw in some perspective of what might be going on from his side, please don't take it as blaming or negative, I know it can sound that way, hopefully this goes well  :

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I am pregnant and this makes things more difficult for me.

I've never had kids myself though I understand much of what happens in that time needs special precautions. Do you have someone other than your husband to lean on in a difficult moment?

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We had a disagreement last Saturday over going out with some guys that he calls them incorrectly friends. Are more like drinking buddies and just it. I didn't want to go to meet them because is not fun

Has this been an issue before? as in, you've gone out with him/them without incident or was this the first invite?

I ask because he might have considered the going out as a way to relax, not just for him but for you as well. Remember people with BPD have trouble separating their needs from the needs of others, so in his mind if it works for him them SURELY it works for you as well.

Telling him you don't see it that way throws a wrench in this twisted logic, specially if you've gone out no problem in the past, so the backlash begins. He might have assumed you were ok with it and possibly enjoyed it from past experience.

As far as dealing with it, the general idea is to wait it out and tackle it when he's calm.

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When I asked him if was because I disagreed to go with him and his friends, he hardly admitted and started to blame me for ruining his mood and for being stuck in the house all the time because of me ( is not true)

Having to admit wrongdoing is not fun for anyone, it makes us feel bad about ourselves. One way he knows how to deal with the bad feelings is to deflect them onto someone else to protect himself.

It's all about him you see, others are always to blame.

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So, I said to him to go to meet them but without me

This could be taken by him to the extreme of "go away, I don't want to be with you anymore".

Phrasing and framing helps in these situations. Something simple like "You can take me to 'this different place'".

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I said to compromise. We will go for dinner and after he will go alone to meet his "friends"

This still has that hint of "go be alone somewhere". Compromise is not always about agreeing to half-deals: sometimes I take the whole cake, sometimes we get that pizza you wanted, makes sense?

Also if you can't stand his "drinking buddies" consider an alternative to put them on the spot: suggest going to the juice bar and then take them to browse baby clothes and have to take care of "pregnant stuff" for you (evil I know  ), they'll think twice about saying yes and you can be off the hook, or maybe you'll get to know them and they're obnoxious but good-hearted people deep down, who knows. You're pregnant, use it to your advantage 

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I reminded him also that if we disagree about something, this doesn't mean that we stopped caring about each other
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He can see things only black or white. I told him between this are other colours

When you've been painted black whatever you said will be used against you. He's probably thinking you actually don't care and are brainwashing him, that he can't trust his reality and has to accept your own no questions asked.

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Now, after a violent fight before my doctor appointment

Baby should be number one priority.

I won't comment on DV because that's beyond my capacity to advice, hopefully someone else can chime in.

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What can/ should I do? He don't want to take antidepressants or see a therapist and I feel I do not know how to handle him anymore. Any thoughts/ advice? Thank you.

I will say though regarding the silence, act as if nothing happened. It's a weird world living with BPD and a pregnant wife, so lets make it easier on everyone and just push through it right?

There's a phrase that floats around here: "To make things better, we have to stop making things worse". I first thought it puts the blame and burden on us non-BPD's, but if we want to make it happen, we have to make it ourselves.

Not wanting to go out with your husband's drinking buddies is not the end of the world, so dropping the issue entirely might be the best way to move forward. Again, act as if nothing happened and "conveniently forget" about it when brought up, like "oh yeah, I wonder if they'll have that new baby food at the store" and go about your merry day.

He might push the issue, but that also gets exhausting for him if you don't bite, why bother he'll think.

The issues will need to be worked out eventually, so learn all you can, take it a step at a time.

Sorry this issue brought you here but you're in good company, welcome to the boards!

Hope that helped, feel free to keep posting and asking more questions
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2019, 10:53:06 PM »

Welcome

Let me join ItsMeSnap in welcoming you.  You've found a supportive community  where you can learn skills to help make things better.  The members here understand the difficult and painful behaviors you are dealing with.  There are several tools you can learn here and use to reduce the conflict with your husband.

Before we talk about relationship tools, let's first cover safety.  Can you tell us more about the violent fight that occurred?  What exactly happened?  Have you gotten your car keys back yet?

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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2019, 03:12:55 PM »

Thanks for your advice. It is such a big relief to hear your opinion. I really appreciate the time and effort you took to answer to me and thanks for the warm welcome to this community
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2019, 10:22:02 PM »

hi Isabella,

are you safe?
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2019, 08:32:31 AM »

Yes, thanks for asking
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2019, 08:50:51 AM »

Hi Isabella! Welcome new member (click to insert in post)

I'd like to join itsmeSnap, Radcliff and once in welcoming you to the boards. Like them, I'm so sorry you're in this situation but also glad you found us here and are looking for help. So many members here have experience, tools and advice to share -- and, if nothing else, there's always support and a (virtual) shoulder to lean on.

Your use of the word violence sends up  Red flag/bad  (click to insert in post). Are you willing and able to share a little more about the violent fight that occurred? Has there been violence before? It is, unfortunately, not uncommon in a BPD relationship.

My own marriage has had some domestic violence elements to it lately and I've been working with a DV counselor on safety plans and tools. It's a scary, baffling situation to be in and I've found the support and advice invaluable. If you're open to it, I would be happy to share.
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2019, 12:27:53 PM »

Hello, it's been a while.  How are you doing?

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