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« on: September 17, 2019, 04:49:14 PM »

Haven't been on this board in years (can't remember the username from before).

I've been married for 39 years to a woman with dissociative identity disorder (DID).  As she likes to point out, she's never been diagnosed with BPD.  What she doesn't know is that the last 3 counselors we've seen have said that some of her personalities (over 20 in total) have "BPD tendencies".  The combination of the personalities certainly feel like BPD to me.

We have 5 children (all grown) and 6 (soon 7) grandchildren.

I'm being treated for prostate cancer, which is actually a blessing since I have very little physical desire for my wife.  She has a long list of ailments that prevent any sort of intimacy, so it's better this way.

I'm basically in a "survive as healthily as I can until I die" mode.  Our last counselor said that I was "the most emotionally healthy person married to an emotionally unhealthy person" that he had ever met.  She sees a psychologist and a counselor.  I have a counselor of my own that I see as well (or my 'rent-a-friend' as I call him).

Looking forward to reading and learning some more.
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2019, 07:28:49 PM »

Hi and welcome back though I am so sorry to hear about your cancer.  How are you doing with that in terms of treatment and coping with it all?  What sort of support do you have other than your 'rent a friend' Smiling (click to insert in post) and here?

I hope you share more with us about what brought you back.  When you feel like it though.  In the mean time, settle in and read and get comfortable.  We get it here and we can support you.

PS, if you remember your old user name, just click on my name over on the left and send me a PM and I can see about merging your accounts.
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2019, 10:44:59 PM »

Haven't been on this board in years (can't remember the username from before).

I've been married for 39 years to a woman with dissociative identity disorder (DID).  As she likes to point out, she's never been diagnosed with BPD.  What she doesn't know is that the last 3 counselors we've seen have said that some of her personalities (over 20 in total) have "BPD tendencies".  The combination of the personalities certainly feel like BPD to me.

We have 5 children (all grown) and 6 (soon 7) grandchildren.

I'm being treated for prostate cancer, which is actually a blessing since I have very little physical desire for my wife.  She has a long list of ailments that prevent any sort of intimacy, so it's better this way.

I'm basically in a "survive as healthily as I can until I die" mode.  Our last counselor said that I was "the most emotionally healthy person married to an emotionally unhealthy person" that he had ever met.  She sees a psychologist and a counselor.  I have a counselor of my own that I see as well (or my 'rent-a-friend' as I call him).

Looking forward to reading and learning some more.



Hello married to many (like the name!)
I'm sorry to hear about your prostate cancer... and it's endearing to see you have a comical side to you stating that it's the lightness in the dark not being able to sleep with your wife. Does she ever miss the physical aspect? Good for you for realizing this though... you seem to be a very emotionally stable man to deal with a woman with 20 different personalities, of which amongst them , has BPD tendencies (oh my!). Most of us on here struggle with ONE BPD partner , let alone 20.

Hopefully you find our responses enlightening, supportive, and/or uplifting. I just signed up for this boardroom not long ago but already the people on here have made me feel like home. I try and keep a sarcastic or comical outlook on some of this because I think we just are all dealing with SO much negativity day in and day out. We are here for you. Feel free to vent anytime.
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2019, 11:35:02 PM »

thanks for the welcome.

I have my counselor/rent-a-friend which I should explain.  He is a Christian marriage counselor who was attached to the church we were attending a number of years ago.  I realized that I needed a relatively impartial person to talk to, and that my insurance would pay for 35? visits a year.  So I went to him and said "write whatever you want on the paper.  I need someone to run ideas and experiences past and to help keep my responses 'Christ like'"  He said fine and my rent-a-friend was established.  He's since grown to be more of a friend.

I seem to have a very strong compartmentalization capability.  I can put the wife/relationship issues to one side and concentrate on what I need to do.

About 7 years ago I took a job which involves a lot of travel.  I've used the job as a reason to create some separation (physical) between us.  I can feel the tension drain away as I drive to the airport and pile back in as I get closer to home.  I've typically been gone 3-4 nights a week for the last 7 years.

In June, she shattered her shoulder while we were in Mexico.  Emergency surgery there, a medical flight home, 2 months of rehab/waiting for the next surgery and she had a total shoulder replacement on Aug 23.  That lead to me spending almost 3 weeks with her constantly...which lead me back here.  I needed somewhere else to vent/interact/share, so I thought I'd try here again.

I was on the boards probably a decade ago, but left because I wasn't able to implement much of the advice/suggestions I was getting here.  All I've really been able to do is (of course) work on my own attitudes and expectations.  My counselor says I've gotten pretty far in "radical acceptance".   I can't change her and I'm not waiting/expecting her to change at all.  I stay with her out of duty and religious conviction.

DiD is not considered curable and she has been pretty resistant to various counseling attempts to improve the situation.  The DiD is from a decade of sexual abuse from her father.   She goes to a counselor until the counselor says something about her changing (even as simple as "Your husband has a right to his feelings" which she does not acknowledge).  Once we hit that point, the counselor is now "mine" and she never goes again.  This has happened 4 times. 

The other big cloud in our relationship is psycho-somatic illnesses, which have been diagnosed at least 4 times professionally (once by a neurologist who was not looking for that at all).   I observed decades ago that she retreated into being sick anytime she feels threatened or anytime there is an expectation on her (ie, she says "I'll bake a cake" but gets sick before she can).  I think her father left her alone when she was sick.  She refuses to acknowledge any of this.  I can probably put her in the ER by pointing out that she makes herself sick (denial, rage, depression, suicide attempt within 1-2 months).  I've seen that pattern many many times.

She has attempted suicide more times than I can remember, once ending up in a medical coma for 3 days.  There have really been about 1/2 dozen "serious" attempts.  There were a couple times when she claimed to have taken an overdose of some medicine, but when we got to the ER they didn't even bother pumping her stomach or really even monitoring her closely (ie, they did NOT believe her at all).

We'll see how active I can be on here.
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2019, 12:57:46 PM »

thanks for the welcome.

I have my counselor/rent-a-friend which I should explain.  He is a Christian marriage counselor who was attached to the church we were attending a number of years ago.  I realized that I needed a relatively impartial person to talk to, and that my insurance would pay for 35? visits a year.  So I went to him and said "write whatever you want on the paper.  I need someone to run ideas and experiences past and to help keep my responses 'Christ like'"  He said fine and my rent-a-friend was established.  He's since grown to be more of a friend.

I seem to have a very strong compartmentalization capability.  I can put the wife/relationship issues to one side and concentrate on what I need to do.

About 7 years ago I took a job which involves a lot of travel.  I've used the job as a reason to create some separation (physical) between us.  I can feel the tension drain away as I drive to the airport and pile back in as I get closer to home.  I've typically been gone 3-4 nights a week for the last 7 years.

In June, she shattered her shoulder while we were in Mexico.  Emergency surgery there, a medical flight home, 2 months of rehab/waiting for the next surgery and she had a total shoulder replacement on Aug 23.  That lead to me spending almost 3 weeks with her constantly...which lead me back here.  I needed somewhere else to vent/interact/share, so I thought I'd try here again.

I was on the boards probably a decade ago, but left because I wasn't able to implement much of the advice/suggestions I was getting here.  All I've really been able to do is (of course) work on my own attitudes and expectations.  My counselor says I've gotten pretty far in "radical acceptance".   I can't change her and I'm not waiting/expecting her to change at all.  I stay with her out of duty and religious conviction.

DiD is not considered curable and she has been pretty resistant to various counseling attempts to improve the situation.  The DiD is from a decade of sexual abuse from her father.   She goes to a counselor until the counselor says something about her changing (even as simple as "Your husband has a right to his feelings" which she does not acknowledge).  Once we hit that point, the counselor is now "mine" and she never goes again.  This has happened 4 times. 

The other big cloud in our relationship is psycho-somatic illnesses, which have been diagnosed at least 4 times professionally (once by a neurologist who was not looking for that at all).   I observed decades ago that she retreated into being sick anytime she feels threatened or anytime there is an expectation on her (ie, she says "I'll bake a cake" but gets sick before she can).  I think her father left her alone when she was sick.  She refuses to acknowledge any of this.  I can probably put her in the ER by pointing out that she makes herself sick (denial, rage, depression, suicide attempt within 1-2 months).  I've seen that pattern many many times.

She has attempted suicide more times than I can remember, once ending up in a medical coma for 3 days.  There have really been about 1/2 dozen "serious" attempts.  There were a couple times when she claimed to have taken an overdose of some medicine, but when we got to the ER they didn't even bother pumping her stomach or really even monitoring her closely (ie, they did NOT believe her at all).

We'll see how active I can be on here.

You're welcome!
That's good to hear your insurance covers it (lucky!) and that he's Christian to help you keep your energy level in a more enlightened state.

That's great... I need to learn this compartmentalization trick. But you must have learned it along the years as a defense mechanism in response to all the chaos you're dealing with (including now your cancer!).

Yes.. I can imagine you having an overwhelming anxiety/depression wanting to head home but it's good you took it as a reason to separate... was your wife also giving you PLEASE READ for this?
Oh gosh well you came to the right place to vent. How is living with her now daily?

Realizing we can't change someone else is a HUGE lesson and sometimes although we are logically aware of it, I think that emotions still take over for the most of us and we still TRY to mold someone. I think to an extent, and with the right state of mind, an individual CAN change a bit if they're self-aware but it is extremely difficult. What I keep reminding myself when I get upset is "you can't control anyone else or their actions/behaviors except your own."

That makes sense... the counselor is "mine" is definitely HER mechanism in response to self defeat I'm sure. Her issues are so complex I'm guessing that the walls she has built up for self defense are so extremely high that her perception may not ever change. and I'm very sorry to hear this... just be strong and vent here. 
That's very interesting about her being "sick." Is she ACTUALLY sick? like does she actually ware her body down in terms of stress to the point where she does actually catch a cold? or does he just act it out kind of as a defense mechanism.

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