KArma

[freshlySane]

do they ever have to  deal  with  the consequences of their actions or are they KArma free and get to hurt others and use people untill there healed?

[Vindi]

i think people will only want to change if they want to, not forced into changing, or pressured... .  and I too think that they can easily find the next victim/target to hurt... .  but in the long run, I think Karma does come into play, someway somehow.

[Surnia]

freshlySane 

I hear some frustration and anger in your words. Sounds like something happend that makes you thinking about karma. Perhaps you can tell us what happened?

[freshlySane]

freshlySane 

I hear some frustration and anger in your words. Sounds like something happend that makes you thinking about karma. Perhaps you can tell us what happened?

short story stole my money my possession cheated on me demeaned me made me feel worthless got me arrested and contributed to me losing my job and stopping my college education. i gave up everything for her and she is just living life enjoying her new job new home and new boyfriend and i have to be the one to take the moral inventory im the one who has to heal form the hurt

[drv3006]

I wondered that myself.  But everyone suffers the consequences of their actions.  As a recoverd alcoholic I can honestly say I had good times drinking, however I suffered consequences because of it too but it didn't sink in until I was honest openminded and willing.  For BPD their consequences to me are :  they don't have friends, they don't  have steady jobs and its so hard to diagnoze that they most don't even know what is wrong most of the time.  They suffer divorce.  My ex children don't want to see him, so they suffer the loss of their children.   They suffer the consequences.   They are surrounded in this world of self, selfcentered, selfish and self diagnosis.  They are lonely people.  And that is sad.  

We all have some personality disorders.   Mine said he was healed.  Maybe he was.   I just have to stay focused on me and my behavior.    I spent time wondering what he was thinking and doing and if it was all going rosey for him while I wallowed in resentments and still do sometimes.  Again, too much energy of mine wasted on something I can't control anyway.  This is hard for me because I have a personality disorders too.  And I suffer the consequences for them.   One of mine is caretaker, codependency.  What do I do, I fall everytime for someone who needs to be cared for and then I suffer the consequences.  Right now, I've suffered, loss of love, loss of mind (not understanding wth he was talking about half the time) loss of self, so wrapped up in him.  I suffered the consequences with this relationship with my disorder too.  If any of that makes any sense.

[freshlySane]

I wondered that myself.  But everyone suffers the consequences of their actions.  As a recoverd alcoholic I can honestly say I had good times drinking, however I suffered consequences because of it too but it didn't sink in until I was honest openminded and willing.  For BPD their consequences to me are :  they don't have friends, they don't  have steady jobs and its so hard to diagnoze that they most don't even know what is wrong most of the time.  They suffer divorce.  My ex children don't want to see him, so they suffer the loss of their children.   They suffer the consequences.   They are surrounded in this world of self, selfcentered, selfish and self diagnosis.  They are lonely people.  And that is sad.  

We all have some personality disorders.   Mine said he was healed.  Maybe he was.   I just have to stay focused on me and my behavior.    I spent time wondering what he was thinking and doing and if it was all going rosey for him while I wallowed in resentments and still do sometimes.  Again, too much energy of mine wasted on something I can't control anyway.  This is hard for me because I have a personality disorders too.  And I suffer the consequences for them.   One of mine is caretaker, codependency.  What do I do, I fall everytime for someone who needs to be cared for and then I suffer the consequences.  Right now, I've suffered, loss of love, loss of mind (not understanding wth he was talking about half the time) loss of self, so wrapped up in him.  I suffered the consequences with this relationship with my disorder too.  If any of that makes any sense.

its definetly does make sense and thank you for sharing your story that means alot

[BentNotBroken]

I take some comfort in knowing that she has a huge, unfillable void where her soul is supposed to be. I know from personal experience what that little gem feels like. When you are utterly self-centered, you are disconnected from everyone and everything. Trust me, she lives in a self-created h*ll that frequently causes those who experience it to never enjoy life and crave death despite their facade. They are like a walking-almost-dead burn victim. My understanding is pwBPD have this going on in addition to their other emotional and impulse control issues.

Imagine the worst feeling you have ever had, times 10 all the time. When things are actually stressful, then it is times 100. Of course it may just be a fake BPD victim story, but I saw my ex absolutely tortured by her own feelings many, many times. She deserves it.

[Ex-Vamp-Slayer]

I understand the anger and want karma to occur. Over the past year and a half I have spent time focusing on me. I have come to understand that the relationship was disfunctional. I was part of the disfunction.

Was I hurt and angry the way I was treated? Yes! Did I have a role in the relationship? Yes! I have had to let her go. I have in fact lost interest in knowing anything about her. I am more interested if I have any risidual anger which points me to FOO issues.

I was an adult in the relationship and if I feel like I was abused. I allowed it. I was not a victim even though it would excuse my poor behavior at times. I now look at the things I said and I own them. I could have not got involved with her, not allowed her to move in so soon, walked away sooner.

It now feels more empowering to own what I did and said and what I didn't do that I should have. I no longer hope karma kicks in as she has her journey and I wish her the best... .  

[waitaminute]

I use the word Karma sometimes. But I probably use it incorrectly.

My meager understanding of the real "karma" says that it does not matter what one's intentions are or even if they intended the results. A sick or healthy mind causes certain things to happen. It is the "happening" that matters. The actions cause a natural reaction in the metaphysical world... .  just like physics in the natural physical world. The old everyday language we use might say "what goes around comes around", "reap what you sow"  or even "she got what she deserved" as though there is some justice at play. Justice is a different issue as far as I'm concerned.

So will Karma visit her for her actions? Does a rock roll downhill?

But keep in mind that however well intentioned we were, if we caused the BPD harm, then ... .  guess what? Yeah... .  we're all singing the Karma blues.

[Maryiscontrary]

I see it like this. Kharma mean "result".

Good permanent friends are very hard to come by. High quality people will not stay with a person that abuses kindness for the long term.

Capital flows to the area that its most appreciated. Good relationships are good capital.

I have very much developed in this process. Anybody who starts acting like an ass, gets a boundary placed by me. I am generous, kind, forthcoming, and beautiful. You know the game of lifeboat? Well, I am definitely someone you would want in your lifeboat. And most of you guys are the same.

If somebody rejects this, THEY lose. My husband lost the best lover and business partner he had ever had. Life sucks balls for him. Statistically, it is rare to replace something so valuable.

So that. IS Kharma. You throw a diamond down the sink, and now you don't have a diamond. This is the result.

[afterdeath]

In my opinion, in order for karma to take place,one must perceive it as good and negative force. People with BPD I do not believe can grasp the concept of karma.

They want to believe they control their fate. When my ex first dumped me, she continued her destructive behaviors and ended up rear ending some one with her car. I see this as bad karma for her actions of recklessness and ignorance. She would simply see it as the other cars fault for not turning.

She told me when she recycled me that she believed we were better people when we were together. I believe I made her better as she made me, for the time being until she continued her destructive patterns again.

My point is this: karma is a perception that will probably not exist in their world. There is only the two sides for them. Either all good or all bad, no logical or distinct connection exists between the two otherwise they would make a lot more sense to us.

The connection of karma it's just another form of connection they can't emotionally be responsible with caring about

[RedRightAnkle]

Their Karma is that they have BPD.


It's a crippling, terrifying disorder that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemies. It takes lives.

I'm not saying their behavior doesn't hurt people; it does. But no one deserves to be emerged in that horrible nightmare that is ANY mental illness. That includes their loved ones whose lives are changed due to any ill behavior or diagnosis. Mental illness is nasty in general.

No one deserves it. No one.

[gettingoverit]

My ex still has Karma coming her way, however I do know that karma has bit her in the @ss already. Her son (the one she emotionally neglected and screwed up) has nothing to do with her. My ex lost her son, and I gained one. How's that for karma?  God that must just erk her knowing we still hang out together.