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Author Topic: EXIT PLAN - leaving tomorrow. Advice?  (Read 855 times)
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« on: February 04, 2013, 06:48:57 PM »

Hi all,

I have come to my breaking point, and I will leave tomorrow.  After a nasty and drunken rage two weekends ago, I left and stayed with my parents for two nights.  First time I've ever left in all our marriage though we've been in separate rooms for nearly 4 months.  I returned to a pile of all my personal things from master room, along with any and all framed or otherwise pics of "us" on my guest bed.  

The past week has been surprisingly calm but tense.  He is drinking a lot and got paid so has replenished his marijuana supply.  I have found out he is bashing me to others (I am surprisingly ok with that- whatever!) and has informed my family via email that I am mentally unstable and they need to take care of me (!).  He became paranoid/delusional during this rage, telling me he plans to buy a huge gun this month (he is anti-gun) for his own protection from me.  When I asked if he meant that, he said he sincerely feels I'm so unstable (?) that he 100% believes I may be trying to poison or kill him.  Wow.  Hard to even type that one out.  He is not the man I married (well, you all know what I mean... .  things sure change when you are painted black).

There's more, but that's enough.  We have a joint mortgage and many happy memories (way more good than bad) at our home, which we love. The r/s has obviously disintegrated beyond hope, and I have been detaching for several months.   My T told me after this last rage that it is time to go, and I know he is right.  I am fortunate to have family close, so that I can stay rent free and still split mortgage until our house sells.  

My exit plan - please comment - have I covered my bases?  Any feedback on pets would be appreciated

-We have two pets (no kids), so we are both VERY attached.  I plan to take one tomorrow.  Since we've separated, one pet has slept in my bed every night; the other in his.  However, the one currently attached to me has been his special buddy.

-I plan to leave work early and leave before he returns from work.

-Once I'm safely at my parents, I plan to email him.

-I want to convey the following



  • I feel my leaving will relieve stress and anxiety for both of us

    -I intend to split our mortgage and utilities until house sells

    -I feel it's fair for each to have one pet -pets will have to adjust to new enviroment soon anyway.  If he prefers to have other pet, we can trade (My T told me I even need to be able to walk away from pets, but these are like children.  I want one)

    -I know it's stressful for BOTH of us to be in house together, so it makes sense for me to go, as I have family here.

    -I will return to the house to pack and help prepare house for sale. I will alway call before coming to house.

    -He is welcome to visit pet I take - call first.

    -We have discussed no-fault divorce.  I want to say that I still support that and feel




we can amicably split our belongings, but that I have contacted an attorney and am prepared to go that route if he prefers.  

I intend to mainly take clothes, work stuff, etc., as I will be staying in a guest room for a few months until house sells.  I will pack up furniture at that time.  If I forget anything essential, I will return to house to get it (letting him know first).

What paperwork do I need to grab?  I'm not the most organized... .  (can you say exhausted and frazzled?)

**Pets- Should I go alone tomorrow and send email asking which pet he prefers to defuse rage as much as possible?  I am unsure how he'll react. Or, should I take pet as planned and tell him I will switch if he wants?  Need advice on this -pets are dear to us both.

**Note - we work together though it's a big place, and we do not see each other often at work.  Still, we have joint co-workers, etc. and am worried he will come unglued at work.  My close friends at work (3) know I'm leaving tomorrow.

**Computer- he uses one now, and I use the other.  However, we both have material on both - at some point, I want to get what I have on his and think he'd want what's his on mine.  I do not have time to do all that before I leave.  We have some naked pics of us - a little worried about those (on his computer).

Tonight is hard.  It will be the last night I spend in my home.  I have loved our 2 acre yard with gardens, our blue birds and hummingbirds, our pets frolicking in the yard, reading on the porch, and watching sunset over the treeline in the back yard.  We have fixed up our cottage together, and it has been HOME for a long time.  I will be distracting myself by organizing and packing soon.  I am sad, but I know it is the right decision.

I would appreciate any wisdom or advice you may have.  Thank you!

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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2013, 07:10:38 PM »

Good God. Delete the pics. Make time. Take the dog. Bring help. Don't worry about it so much. It is going to be difficult but you'll get through it. Bound to be some drama next few weeks. Keep family close. Good luck!
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2013, 07:18:02 PM »

Wow... .  the pics.  Maybe I need to call in sick to work.  He always leaves before me and won't even know.  And just take the animal?  Don't want him rampaging over there to get him back... .  but, yes, I do want him and think it's fair to each get one.

What other paperwork type stuff?

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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2013, 07:30:40 PM »

Yes. Mental health day for sure. Take the pet. Yes might blow up. Not your problem. If he comes over call police. Car title of your vehicle for sure. What do you have like that, that you can't get online?
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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2013, 07:38:58 PM »

Yes. Mental health day for sure. Take the pet. Yes might blow up. Not your problem. If he comes over call police. Car title of your vehicle for sure. What do you have like that, that you can't get online?

Ok, I just put in for leave (sick day) and am revising my plans.  I can't get it all together with him here tonight - he will be too suspicious.  So, now I have tomorrow.  I will get up at regular time and get ready for work so he won't suspect (he leaves first).  He doesn't see me at work, so that won't be a problem unless someone offhandedly mentions it - hey, where's __ today?  Is __ sick?  Everyone talks, and 95% of our co-workers have no clue what is going on (around 80 or so employees - we've both there for years).  I hope no one foils the plan, which would cause him to come home and see what's up.  

I'm revising/modifying my list

-take pet for sure

-my car title (didn't even think of that)

-w2's, all financial info

-look in our office files - I think my birth certificate is in there

-personal photos (I have boxes - didn't think of those)

-delete necessary pics and save what pics music I can from his computer

What else... .  ?

Thank you so much for helping me to focus.  Can't believe I though I could go to work and swing this!

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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2013, 07:42:08 PM »

Forward your bills... anything to pay them, make sure you have. I didn't when I moved out and soon to be exwife said she was taking care of it, cleaned out accounts didn't pay my bills, by time I knew of it my credit rating took a nose dive. Also phone numbers of everyone you know... .  pictures (family and otherwise)... insurance paperwork.
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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2013, 07:44:07 PM »

80 employee place... .  if he is BPD... .  work may well be an issue, would it be hard to work elsewhere if issues arise? Is your boss someone you can tell/warn without it causing your pwBPD an issue?
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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2013, 07:48:59 PM »

Forward your bills... anything to pay them, make sure you have. I didn't when I moved out and soon to be exwife said she was taking care of it, cleaned out accounts didn't pay my bills, by time I knew of it my credit rating took a nose dive. Also phone numbers of everyone you know... .  pictures (family and otherwise)... insurance paperwork.

Thank you!  Thankfully, I have always done finances until this past summer when we finally split (mainly over his marijuana spending). Most of our bills are online and up to date.  We have even split credit onto our own separate cards.  Note to self - change ALL my credit card passwords and take him off them!  We have shared mortgage and utilities paid from a joint account, which I will continue to pay until house sells (not even on market).

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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2013, 07:52:41 PM »

80 employee place... .  if he is BPD... .  work may well be an issue, would it be hard to work elsewhere if issues arise? Is your boss someone you can tell/warn without it causing your pwBPD an issue?

Not ideal for sure.  I have been there 20 years and have very, very good friends and support there.  He has a little support from co-workers, mainly from those who are negative like he is.  I am not worried about being smeared because I know I am respected there.  He is too for what he does, but he is also viewed as being quick to react, etc. - he's had some work conflicts, so I am seen as more stable.  I actually applied for a different job last year in anticipation of this but didn't get it.

Ironically, he won't seem to leave, yet HATES his job.  I am very happy there.  I will have some drama there for sure, but I have many in my corner. 

But, dang, I need to clear those pics off his computer!  That could be bad if he goes vindictive which he has told me many times he plans to do (in rages... .  not sure if he will).
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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2013, 07:57:06 PM »

A joint account means either of you can drain it or overspend it... .  you are going to need to deal with that as well... direct deposit could be an issue if it pays in... just think it out... I would have separate accounts asap... maybe talk to your bank about what to do?

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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2013, 08:11:24 PM »

A joint account means either of you can drain it or overspend it... .  you are going to need to deal with that as well... direct deposit could be an issue if it pays in... just think it out... I would have separate accounts asap... maybe talk to your bank about what to do?

You just brought up a great point.  When we began living together years ago his finances were a mess (surprise).  I had some savings and was fine, as I'm naturally frugal.  We added his name to MY account and I took over paying all bills.  Both our paychecks are autodeposited.  When we split this summer, the JOINT account is only for mortgage and utilities - we both have access to it BUT YES, IT'S IN MY NAME!  We each now have separate accounts and don't know each other's passwords.  When we set up like this, I left his name on JOINT account, but I need to take it off.

He still has a credit card attached and something else weird (some insurance I never heard of) that gets pulled from joint account.  I informed him and he added some money this month. He is always pretty broke from spending on his priority -marijuana.

wish we had split $ long ago.
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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2013, 08:12:06 PM »

Adding to my list... .  
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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2013, 08:12:59 PM »



passport, car registration,

copy of last years taxes, if you have it

marriage certificate, birth certificate, personal photos, books, mementos

anything like Ins papers/medical/dental benefits paperwork ( Life/car/home... .  etc)

copies of his pay stubs/ contracts- as well as yours.

re mortgage and bills-how will you make sure he pays his half? NEVER ASSUME that he will do as he says.

get a moving company to help pack up the house stuff before you list it for sale or take (male) family members with you. never go alone.

good luck and god bless,

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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2013, 08:23:32 PM »

Lol. Honestly that always amazes me. Almost everyone does it. Schedule your departure from an abusive marriage around your work schedule! If that doesn't require a day off! Maybe that says something about us too. Overly responsible not focused on self care.

Oh well. Good advice from others... Get some help. Have them pack and carry. You direct, think, and Delete.

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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2013, 09:02:11 PM »

Lol. Honestly that always amazes me. Almost everyone does it. Schedule your departure from an abusive marriage around your work schedule! If that doesn't require a day off! Maybe that says something about us too. Overly responsible not focused on self care.

Oh well. Good advice from others... Get some help. Have them pack and carry. You direct, think, and Delete.

Yes, OTC.  You are right.  I am so fried right now... .  I know I need to go, and tomorrow is the day, but I am not all together with the logistics, that's for sure.

THANK YOU ALL!

I can come back to house later and bring someone with me if I forget anything major.

Thank you!
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« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2013, 09:15:23 PM »

Adding to my list... .  

take photos of anything you cannot move tomorrow.  Having a friend or family member with you tomorrow too would be good.  That way if he does get wind of you missing work--you are not there alone.
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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2013, 09:30:44 PM »

Thanks. I was thinking but never stated it. And hey... .  they can take a day off too.  Doing the right thing (click to insert in post)

Adding to my list... .  

take photos of anything you cannot move tomorrow.  Having a friend or family member with you tomorrow too would be good.  That way if he does get wind of you missing work--you are not there alone.

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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2013, 10:18:30 PM »

Lol. Honestly that always amazes me. Almost everyone does it. Schedule your departure from an abusive marriage around your work schedule! If that doesn't require a day off! Maybe that says something about us too.

Quite! I'm not sure which is worse -- that we schedule this around work, or that this isn't the kind of thing that many would count as a legitimate reason to miss work?
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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2013, 10:55:55 PM »

I will keep my fingers crossed, that all goes well! 

Keep us posted!
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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2013, 11:03:38 PM »

ACR you asked some really good questions even for being frazzled.  You also sound determined.  Hoping for the easiest possible transition in a difficult time for you.

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« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2013, 11:08:33 PM »

Pictures of furniture, possessions you cannot take tomorrow, of things you will need  to negotiate on later perhaps - records are important.
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« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2013, 11:25:42 PM »

Personal stuff that can't be duplicated: Childhood teddy bear, scrapbooks, etc.

You're already making sure to take what's most important--- Yourself.

No longer at the crossroads. Best wishes!

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« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2013, 06:48:13 AM »

He just departed for work.

Frankly, I'm a little misty-eyed reading all the responses from last night and the new ones I just saw.  The support, and of course, the ADVICE, mean the world!   

So, I may be a wee bit paranoid, but I thought he seemed a tad suspicious.  I woke up late, showered as usual, started running around rushing (all my normal routine).

Then, I went to mix my instant coffee (I know, bleh).  He always makes coffee night before and one of his biggest claims for years has been how I contribute NOTHING/ZERO/NADA to the marriage.  He does everything.  He even included in his email to my family how he has done all (he wrote a list, including how he has always had to prepare all his own meals - then the same day he put on fb how he has lost tons of weight- implying I'm not feeding him... .  ?).  I have ALWAYS done groceries and food, but when we split $,he irrationally insisted on no joint groceries - "housemate" (his words) style.  Since summer, I have eaten well, and he eats crackers or frozen pizzas.  On occasion he will eat food offered, until 2-3 weeks ago, when I offered him a bowl of pot roast and he said, "I don't want that. It probably has antifreeze in it."  Later his fear of me killing him came up a couple more times - he meant it.

Anyway, around that time he began to make a small amount of coffee and pour it in carafe for himself.  He told me to "make my own coffee" (as though my life depended on him making me coffee and now look what I'm missing).  I am always rushed in morning, so said screw that and have been making a cup of instant (whatever - I don't care anymore).  And he enjoys his carafe.  In an sad way, I have found it rather amusing.

This morning... .  he made a FULL pot of coffee?  What the heck?  Does he suspect?  I don't know.  But, I've had my "instant" and am now fully awake and every nerve is wired. 

Up to the attic for the storage crates I go... .  

Thank you for all the wishes and advices.  I will update tonight.

*I will likely check this thread later too for stamina/motivation and to make sure I have covered the list.  So any other suggestions are welcome.  I will be photographing everything I leave and doing my darnedest to get everything off his computer and get paperwork.  Those are priorities.



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« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2013, 08:55:37 AM »

Seems like this topic should be given further thought, and made a sticky topic... .  others no doubt face the same issues, and there is some great advice here.
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« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2013, 10:42:36 AM »

Good idea, Charred.  Even though he has never laid a hand on me, moving out is a terrifying experience.  Who knows what he could do.

So, I'm at my folks' - I rushed and left just before his lunch break, knowing he sometimes comes home during that time.  I did not take cat and am not finished  - still need to get some things, the pet, and take pictures.

On my way, I pass him coming opposite way on highway!  This is maybe 10 min into his lunch break and he was heading back toward where we work/live area.  I do not know if he saw me! 

I have emailed friends at work to check if he is there... .  waiting to hear back.  I will not go back to the house if he is not at work.  I AM WONDERING IF HE TOOK DAY OFF TOO AND ALSO "ACTED" LIKE HE WAS GOING TO WORK?

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« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2013, 10:51:54 AM »

I did this in May when my exBPDbf was out of town.  You sound strong and determined.  Do not let paranoia get to you but at the same time, if he's a rager, you need to take smart precautions, which is what you are doing!  Please do have someone with you if at all possible or arrange for someone to check in with you regularly.   

I will be sending you love and prayers and holding you in my thoughts today.  You are cared for and of value!  Post when you can to keep us updated.  BE SAFE and stay smart!   
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« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2013, 11:19:18 AM »

Thank you!  I was just informed he is indeed at work, so I am heading back to get pet and few more items... .  plan to be gone when he gets back.  We get off work at early - around 3.

I have LOTS of people texting and checking on me... .  about 5 friends at work now know and my brother is coming over here after he gets off.

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« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2013, 02:35:01 PM »

I'm out.  At my parents' house, and my brother is coming to check on me in about an hour, and a friend is coming over later with dinner (parents are out of town).  I took lots of pictures, got one pet, other got outside -- upsetting, but he is indoor/outdoor, so I'm trying not to worry.

I'm on hold to talk to psych he sees  - not for any talk therapy just to adjust his antidepressants.  I really don't have a clue if she knows anything at all about what is going on. 

My anxiety level is through the rough, and the floodgates opened as soon as I carried my animal into the house.   :'(

*psych is not allowed to talk to me, but I just told her that I left, wasn't sure if he knew yet, and that I am concerned about him. 
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« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2013, 02:55:53 PM »

Good for you!  Glad everyone here was able to help.  Are you going to be alone there tonight?  When do your parents get back? 
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« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2013, 03:58:13 PM »

Hugs! I'd imagine this is all bitter sweet. I felt relief when we separated and also a great deal of sadness. It's all natural and normal to feel all these opposing emotions.

I am pleased you are with your family. I do hope you are able to talk to them about all this.

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« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2013, 04:18:12 PM »

l am glad you are out safe.  That was kind of you to call his therapist to advise her of the situation (I did the same thing.)  I am glad to hear you have a friend coming over.  I was where you were in May, I enlisted some friends to help me move out and when it was done I totally broke down in the car with my friend.  What you have done took a lot of courage.  We are still here to help if you need to talk!   
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« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2013, 03:02:18 AM »

Definitely glad to hear you made it safely to your parents.

What about the bank accounts?  Do you guys have a joint account?  Did you get this situated?

Also you might want to let the HR department at work know what is going on since you work together.

Maybe now is a good time to think about the plan after the leaving plan.  Things like how you are going to handle communication with him, review some value based boundaries, and the personal taking care of you stuff as the emotions of this start to settle in.
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« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2013, 12:36:57 PM »

Hope all is well. Let us know how you are doing. 
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« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2013, 03:01:30 PM »

I sure wish ACR would get home from work.  I'm sure I'm speaking for a few of us when I say I'm both excited and worried for her.  I'm having my first decent day, but can't stay away from here on account of wanting to know how things are going for her.  I can't imagine having to work in the same building with mine.  That's got to quadruple the stress.
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« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2013, 05:16:32 PM »

Yes we are waiting with baited breath... .  ! Good luck to you, you sound very decided, after 4 months of detaching you feel ready and you know you are doing the right thing. Life might sound scary without him, but really so many new possibilities are opening up to you. You can be positive, and happy , and feel joy, and forget the anxiety and misery... .  its called FREEDOM to be yourself once again. In my case, probably feeling myself for the first time ever, as so much analysis over the years which led me to leave ... .  has at 46 finally brought home what being me is about... .  

There are so many here routing for you. Hope is reaction is not extreme, maybe keep your head down for a couple of weeks.

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« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2013, 06:02:02 PM »

To ALL,

All is well!  

I will share details, but first I must thank each and every one of you for your concern, encouragement, and reinforcement! I have an amazing "real" support system of friends and family, but this forum really is like a special kind of club, isn't it?  Even with my closest friends and family (exception of 3 friends who have had experience with BPD (w/NPD traits)), I don't try to explain fully because these r/s are way too complicated and mystifying to any but to those who have experienced them.  All of your messages are exactly the sort of wisdom I need to hear, and I must print them, so I can post/carry them and refer to them.  

The Update:   I was a frazzled, sweaty, nervous wreck.  I kind of came undone once I got here and was done and reality sunk in.  My brother stopped by after work and stayed for about an hour, which was a huge comfort.  He offered for me to come to his house if I felt uneasy staying alone and gave me some great advice after reading my email to my husband.  After he left, three friends came -- the first one who showed up is a word master and helped me further revise my email, helping me to avoid any legal obligation regarding house (if he stalls on selling).  Second friend showed up with drinks/food - we relaxed, talked, laughed.  I felt lighter.  Third friend called and asked if it were ok for her to check on me and spend the night (she is single, no kids).  I said, "HECK, YES!"  I was uncomfortable staying alone.

By this time we had a little party.  We go back ten to twenty years and have been through all sorts of things together.  It was wonderful to have them there.  All three of them know him quite well and support me 100%.

After friend 1 and 2 went home, friend 3 had some work to do and I went to spend time with cat.  It wasn't until then that I checked my email and was pleasantly surprised that my husband had responded calmly and reasonably.  I expected vitriol, but he mainly talked about the house and said he hated how it all ended.  Oddly, he did not even mention the cat which shocked me.  

My cat is purring and eating, but he has not peed for nearly 36 hours.  My vet told if he doesn't go by 8 or 9 to take him to ER vet, which I fully intend to do as I know how serious blockage can be in male cats.  She said it is not abnormal for cats to hold it this long in a move or stressful situation, but of course to err on side of caution.  His bladder is not hard, and he doesn't seem uncomfortable; he just wants to stay under the bed.

I just wish he would go so I don't have to traumatize him more by a vet run (plus I sure don't feel like going to the vet at 8/9pm either!).

So, all is well.  I'm emotional and exhausted but feeling pretty strong and clear-headed.  I am have soo many things yet to do - attorney, divorce, sell house, work on SELF, etc., but over the feelings of stress and grief, I feel RELIEF.

Sorry I am so long-winded, but again, I am so grateful for everyone's advice and support - it means the world, and I will not be leaving this forum any time soon!  

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« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2013, 06:03:33 PM »

Yes we are waiting with baited breath... .  ! Good luck to you, you sound very decided, after 4 months of detaching you feel ready and you know you are doing the right thing. Life might sound scary without him, but really so many new possibilities are opening up to you. You can be positive, and happy , and feel joy, and forget the anxiety and misery... .  its called FREEDOM to be yourself once again. In my case, probably feeling myself for the first time ever, as so much analysis over the years which led me to leave ... .  has at 46 finally brought home what being me is about... .  

There are so many here routing for you. Hope is reaction is not extreme, maybe keep your head down for a couple of weeks.

I love this message, Cmjo!  I will turn 45 later this week.  Thank you!
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« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2013, 06:24:31 PM »

Thank you for letting us hear from you!  It sounds as if all went as well as could be expected.  Keep us posted, hopefully it will all continue to go well, but I am sure there will be bumps.   
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« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2013, 07:19:27 PM »

Glad you are well. A million things to worry about but it helps to be out and get your head clear again. Relax a bit then sit down and think out a plan forward. Focus on what you need and seek support for your mixed feelings from friends and family. Avoid the drama if possible but think beforehand how you will respond. A well thought out plan will make it easier.  Doing the right thing (click to insert in post)

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« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2013, 09:54:15 PM »

Reading this.  Reading about you.  We are all cheering you on.  It is like I want to shout run... .  run and don't look back.  You run and find life again.  A special life for you.  The one you should have.  Just run!  I am so happy you are ok and you did it!  You are an inspiration.  So happy for you.  I am really happy for you.  I wish I could see you... .  just know I am smiling for you.  Smiling (click to insert in post)
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« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2013, 10:16:43 PM »

Reading this.  Reading about you.  We are all cheering you on.  It is like I want to shout run... .  run and don't look back.  You run and find life again.  A special life for you.  The one you should have.  Just run!  I am so happy you are ok and you did it!  You are an inspiration.  So happy for you.  I am really happy for you.  I wish I could see you... .  just know I am smiling for you.  Smiling (click to insert in post)

If you could see me, you would see me smiling, calm, peaceful with my kitty making biscuits by my side.  The smile is from reading your message.  There are so many strong, optimistic, encouraging, GOOD people on here... .  it's so twisted how the nicest (too nice) end up with the cruelest. 

Anyway, just as I was about to take cat to ER vet at 11pm (UGH), he PEED.  He peed a ton... .  in the box!  I almost cried.  I gave him treats and brushed him and praised and he strutted around.  Little booger had been HOLDING IT (from stress, but STILL) for 40 hours!

So, right now all I feel is peace, safety, and relief that my cat doesn't have a blockage ;-)

All those little (and big) bumps are going to be coming my way... .  starting tonight with a rude email about how sick and cruel it was for me to take the cat, etc. and demanding to know about finances.  Just lashing out.  I validated the cat thing and said he could visit, etc.  Cleared up the financial talk.  But he is clearly in a foul mood now.  I did not see him at work today but I saw one of his cronies (super negative guy like himself) and just seeing him made me feel tense because of all the smearing.  But, we go days and weeks without even running into each other so it's not that bad.  I just hope once divorce goes through, he will move.  That's down the road... .  

I am going to print this whole thread out... .  I do feel like a survivor, even though I know there is much to go and much self-examination ahead.  Thanks to all and sleep tight.   

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« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2013, 10:24:39 PM »

I admire your clarity and maturity cross roads. You are handling yourself with grace and also allowing yourself to just be without placing blame on you!

Congratulations for being true to yourself   a happy life is beginning for you now - victim no longer!

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« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2013, 02:54:56 PM »

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« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2013, 03:08:47 PM »

Once the cat took stock of the situation, felt calm enough, and then took care of business, things worked out fine. He was even rewarded! Sounds familiar. Do you see yourself, and echoes of your own story, in there? Good for you to be out, and settling into your next chapter as best you can. Glad to hear your H has been being civil about it, too. Your circles of support will continue as you follow through with moving on. As will personal growth.
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« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2013, 05:36:38 PM »

Once the cat took stock of the situation, felt calm enough, and then took care of business, things worked out fine. He was even rewarded! Sounds familiar. Do you see yourself, and echoes of your own story, in there? Good for you to be out, and settling into your next chapter as best you can. Glad to hear your H has been being civil about it, too. Your circles of support will continue as you follow through with moving on. As will personal growth.

What a great perspective, Myself, and no I had not thought of it at all.  My brain feels like mush right now.  I am hopeful that our future will be a good one (me and kitty)... .  it's quite a process, and I am taking it one step at a time.  Husband's civility lasted only that one email.  He has sent two now that were quite vitriolic, but I responded as reasonably as I think I could.  I worry for him and wish I knew how he was doing, and I wish he would get some help.  I'm working on me now and trying to let go of that concern (and I must say, it's lessening now), but it's still there... .  

I'm very exhausted and hoping to get a much needed and solid night of sleep tonight.

I hope all of you are well... .  each of us is going through (or has gone through) such similar situations.  Like I said, it's like a little club here -- for insiders only.  I will try to see it all not with bitterness but as an opportunity for learning and growth.  Thank you again for your tremendous support, and I hope I can do the same for others here.   

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« Reply #45 on: February 08, 2013, 09:47:21 AM »

You are a wonderful example to others that this CAN be done.  I will follow your healing reports as long as you wish to post them.  Don't be embarassed if you backslide, most of us have, just come here and we will support one another! 
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« Reply #46 on: February 08, 2013, 12:03:48 PM »

Thank you, Changed.  I never thought this was how my life/marriage would turn out, and I suspect we all feel that.  I am determined to find my joy again and work through all the pain and let go of the loss of the "good" (for me that seems to be the hardest part).

I left work early because of my cat -- He has urinated just the one time since Tue am.  I am here with him in the room, coaxing him to get in the box and just GO.  In touch with the vet and keeping a close eye on him. 
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« Reply #47 on: February 08, 2013, 12:41:01 PM »

I know how important those little guys can be... .  mine is 18 years old and just got back from the vet myself.  Sending good thoughts, you are being a great kitty mom even during your tough time!   
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« Reply #48 on: February 09, 2013, 11:49:59 AM »

I've been on computer way too long this morning, and I'm getting off now, but I wanted to update that kitty PEED!

Went 40 hours first time - peed after I coaxed him in box.  Then he went another 48 (!) hours - so we went to ER vet last night, where he had a sample taken with needle (he's clear/no UTI), and then promptly peed all over himself in his carrier.  Poor little guy.  This morning he peed in his box on his own before I woke up.  YES!  Vet's diagnosis was "He doesn't like moving."   Laugh out loud (click to insert in post)  He was holding it the entire time from stress.  But the floodgates seem open now, thank goodness.

Thank you all for the amazing support this week.  I finally slept decently last night and have friends coming over tonight.  I feel as though my journey is just beginning... .  Here we go!
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« Reply #49 on: February 10, 2013, 04:12:23 AM »

This morning he peed in his box on his own before I woke up.  YES!  Vet's diagnosis was "He doesn't like moving."   Laugh out loud (click to insert in post) 

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« Reply #50 on: February 10, 2013, 11:50:36 AM »

This morning he peed in his box on his own before I woke up.  YES!  Vet's diagnosis was "He doesn't like moving."   Laugh out loud (click to insert in post) 

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Glad that all went well also with your cat! Step by step into your new life! 

Thank you, Surnia!  He did not pee last night, but again, he did on his own this morning before I awoke.  YES!  He is not drinking too much, so I am ok with one pee a day for now.  He is transitioning, as am I (Thank you, Myself for THAT wonderful insight).   Smiling (click to insert in post)

We are snuggling right now and his purr is roaring.  Baby steps... .  
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