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« on: June 24, 2013, 11:05:58 PM »

Do you know this is my 11th year coming here? Anyway.  After 7 months of non contact with BPD mom, cowardly stoodover by shecow endad and having ensis who is crazy threaten me with a AVO if I contact her ( are we getting the bigger picture) there was a health crisis with Dad and who does PD mom call.   Mwah... . of course which is going to destroy sis considering all the energy she has put into trying to destroy me. I forgot in a crisis they call me and that ends the NC.  End dad is 83 and  heart is failing.  I went to the doctor with him today.His weakness and breathlessness is his his heart and on the scale of failure its 2/10 however the GP is checking for anemia ect. The GP pointed out that compared to a lot of 83 years olds who are dead or in nursing homes he is doing well. He is also depressed. He has lost interest in everything and feels like he is waiting to die. He wont talk to anyone and he gets so weak with his heart he hasn't the energy . The depression sucks up the energy and amotivation too. I managed to catch a glimpse of his specialist letter and it states there are family stresses and I realize they are NEVER EVER going to GET IT because it means losing too much.

So because he has stood up for me in the past and boy I know how he paid for it  I am going to try and tolerate the old cow for my dads sake but I need some tools. Today after the GP she started slagging off about.  He just takes he never tells her to shut her trap. him.  That is saying rotten things about him like she always does when he gets some attention.  In another world it would be seen as domestic violence. What do I do when she does that.  I just have to figure out h

I need words to say to shut her down but do it in such a nice way she doesnt realise its happening. Changing the subjects distraction doesnt work as she just waits to come back to it.

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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2013, 04:29:49 PM »

Hi Yamada,

I'm sorry to hear about your dad. I'm also sorry he had such a hard life - married to a borderline. In reality, there are no words to shut them up. The BPD will take your words and twist them to make her seem like the victim... . you know the drill. If you tell her to leave him alone, don't put too much stress on him and shut her freaking yap for once, she'll just act like the hurt party and make a big deal out of it, making your dad take sides - which would stress him out all the more.

Maybe you could hold your nose and use reverse psychology saying, "Mom, I know you're hurting right now but maybe we should keep things quiet around here so as not to put too much stress on his heart. I know this is something that you would have wanted to say but just couldn't put into words." Something soupy that you put forward as her idea, but what you want for him. Every kind thought you have for your dad will have to be her idea when it comes out of your mouth.

I don't know how much good this would do, but it might work. They always pride themselves as excellent care takers - victimizing themselves by throwing themselves on the pyre of sainthood (blech  ), so being her mouth saying sweet, soothing things would be just how she sees herself.

Again, sorry you have to go through this. It's hard enough without having a BPD on your back. ((Hugs))
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2013, 06:05:08 PM »

Thanks so much.  The thing is she is terrified of him dying but at the same time says the same horrible things about it.  I spoke to my daughter and she was very clever and suggested that I say something along the line of " if he doesnt get rest and take things at his own pace he will die. " as she acusses him of being lazy and sleeping all the time. she gets frightened when his is bad and then when she feels some relief wants to drag him everywhere.
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2013, 10:18:36 PM »

Thanks so much.  The thing is she is terrified of him dying but at the same time says the same horrible things about it.  I spoke to my daughter and she was very clever and suggested that I say something along the line of " if he doesnt get rest and take things at his own pace he will die. " as she acusses him of being lazy and sleeping all the time. she gets frightened when his is bad and then when she feels some relief wants to drag him everywhere.

Just remember that if you dare to suggest something, it will be twisted to make her look like the victim. If your mother is anything like my mother, I'm sure you will end up getting the dirty end of the stick.

I'm talking about manipulating her. They think they are the queens of manipulation - and they are - but there comes a time when a little good manipulation comes in handy. Hey, we learned from the masters, why not use it for a good purpose! I was just thinking about your dad and your compassion for him in his end days... . just trying to get some of the pressure off him. Poor guy.

This reminds me of my late husband's SIL's parents. Her mother was such a witch, she would take her poor husband (who was also in his last days), sit him on a piano stool in the living room and tell him not to move until she got back. Naturally, the poor man had no way to even get over to the couch, so he sat there for hours while she got her hair and nails done. He couldn't even get to the bathroom! Now, that's a witch!

There is a lot of evil in this world.
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