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Author Topic: Passive Aggressive behavior must stop. Please help.  (Read 2350 times)
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« on: February 27, 2014, 03:43:23 PM »

I can't relax. He sabotages every attempt. This passive-aggressive behavior must stop.

So, we had a good run. Almost 2 months of getting along. We were actually happy. And then ... .

Who knows why. I never know why. He went into meltdown two days ago. 0 to 190 in a millisecond. I'm always so surprised. We were simply sitting on the couch having a conversation about a friend of his and BOOM! I never know what trips his trigger. And then the rage came. And the slamming of doors. And throwing things. And then personal assassination.

And now we are on to the passive-aggressive stuff which completely infuriates me and exhausts me. I don't know how to handle it.

I've been locked out of our bedroom for three days. I've been sleeping on a tiny little couch while that SOB sleeps in our king size bed. He turned the Internet off so I couldn't work. On the second night, I got into the bedroom, got into bed, minding my own business, watching a video on my computer. He comes in, gets in bed, takes the sheets and turns the TV on blasting so now I can't hear my computer. I leave and go to the living room. While I'm in the living room watching TV, he turns the lights off on me. Repeatedly. (He does this from the bedroom. We have remotes for the lighting.) And tonight he has disconnected the TV so I can't watch Netflix (everything else on TV is in Swedish). He bought for me a heart bracelet for Valentines day. I took it off and placed it on the living room table. It's gone now. He locked the doors to the kitchen and spare room because he says that will insure that I will not slam them. Now I have to walk around thru various paths to get to the other kitchen door. Or unlock the door with a special skeleton key which hangs in the closet. He leaves the water pitcher empty. Leaves empty containers in the refrigerator ... . milk, cheese, cat food. Empties the garbage under the sink and leaves in there so every time I open the doors under the sink garbage falls out (I told him that if he messes up stuff, he cleans it up. I once had pizza on my kitchen wall for a week. I absolutely refuse to touch that garbage.)

In order to insure that I have PJs, I must go into the bedroom while he is at work and fetch them and put them into the drier in the bathroom so they are available to me. Same with my laptop and personal belongings. I actually have to prepare for the next day because I never know what he's going to hide or sabotage next or whether or not I'll be able to access my clothes in the bedroom. If I leave the house I have to hide my stuff or he'll take it. To ensure I have coffee in the morning, I have to take scoops out of the container and put it away somewhere so that I can make coffee in the morning. In the past, he has hidden the coffee or the coffee maker and left me a note saying "Enjoy your coffee".

I honestly can't take anymore. I'm exhausted. I just want to be able to walk around our home without there being some type of childish behavior that I have to deal with. What is this? Baiting? Attention getting behavior. A man of 45 who acts like a bad child of three years old acting out. How does one possibly set boundaries up for this type of ridiculous behavior?

So now I'm sitting in the livingroom listening to music. Happy music. Starf**ker - Rawnald Gregory Erickson. Happy indeed! Maybe I'll even dance a bit cause it's either that or get really depressed.

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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2014, 11:14:49 PM »

Well... . that was an absolute failure. I engaged. I just couldn't take anymore with the verbal attacks and him actually getting in my face ... . I just let it rip and read him the riot act. Thankfully, he's gone to work.

I think this time he's actually pushed me to the breaking point. I'm thinking that I just can't love someone who treats me like this. When is enough enough?   :'(
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2014, 03:29:46 AM »

Hi, I feel your pain, my husband is the same, here are some examples of his odd behavior:

Burnt my favourite jacket in the burning bin;

Wrecked the boots he bought me;

When I refuse to clean up his dishes after a rage, he puts them in the bin rather than washing them;

Turns the heating off at the mains so I can't be warm;

Hides any food he buys yet eats what I buy;

Threw away flowers he bought me the day before;

Gets in the shower at the exact time he knows I get up for work so I can't use bathroom;

I also get my stuff for the next day ready and hide it so it can't be sabotaged;

He hide our wedding photo;

I often have to clear my dressing table cos his favourite rage is to sweep everything off onto the floor;

I can't book anything nice for us cos it triggers him and I end up cancelling or losing money;

Took my debit card out of my wallet, I do to realise until I need to use it;

Takes money out of our joint account;

Cancels his direct debit into our bills account, leaving me to pay extra;

Stays in hotels after a row;

Sleeps in the spare room more than in our bed;

I truly believe he does all this as some sort of "punishment" I try not to react as it makes him do it more.  This morning he has gone to work angry because I said I had booked us into a restaurant to celebrate our wedding anniversary.  I don't know how much longer I can live like this?  He never wants to spend time with me, I mean any time!  He had been away working for 3 days and didn't even come into the living room to say hello.  He went straight into the other room and started playing video games. 

I feel I have to emotionally check out from this marriage but don't know how :-(

Hope it helps to know you're not the only one suffering xx
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2014, 06:32:03 AM »

Thanks for your comment Sadsue. It helps, I guess ... . but it's awful because no one should have to put up with this behavior.

I am just at a loss as to how to deal with this. I mean, how to you set a boundary for passive-aggressive behavior? And after having done some reading last night about passive-aggressive behavior, I'm not even sure this fits. It seems more to me like emotional or mental abuse ... . which I guess is what passive-aggressive behavior is, but this just seems like something more. It's more blatant. As you said, it's like "punishment".

Last night and this morning, I said some horrible things. They were hurtful and they were meant to be. I deeply regret that. I should have been better. I did tell him that tonight and this weekend I was sleeping in our bed and that I would not tolerate being locked out for another night. I told him I was sick, and that I was very tired, and that I needed some sleep in a bed not a tiny hard couch. If he wants to sleep with me. Fine. If not. Fine.

My plan is to head out today for some errands and then spend the rest of the afternoon and evening in bed reading or watching TV. I desperately need some sleep and some recovery time.

I'm not sure how to proceed. I imagine that he might be thinking of ways to keep me out of our bedroom ... . which would then incite me into another battle (or so he would hope). Or then again, he could just come home and be quite calm (he generally comes back to normal within 3-5 days). Worse case scenario, is he comes home with wine. That would be bad.

For now, I'm just going to make some food. Perhaps head into the city for a bit and treat myself to a nice cup of coffee and some time to regroup. Perhaps a low profile is the best idea.
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2014, 10:54:49 AM »

*sigh* So he just got home from work. He's still very angry. I was in the kitchen making myself a sandwich. I didn't say a word. He gets some groceries out of his bag and slams the paper towel down on the counter. It made me flinch. I say to him, very calmly, "Is that really necessary?". "Yesssss" He scowls at me, "because you are always in my way."

I say to him, "Please stop with the anger. If you can't say something nice, say nothing at all."

He continues muttering and swearing under his breath. I say to him "I just want a peaceful weekend with you. If we can't have that, will I have to check into a hotel for the night?"

He says "Yes, do that."

I'm not going anywhere unless I have to, but I'm so upset AGAIN that I'm shaking.
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2014, 01:00:06 PM »

Are you sure we are not married to the same man!

Mine comes in angry from work most nights slamming and banging around, always complaining about something, door being open, lights on, heating on, plates on the draining board!  I've got to the point where I have a checklist that I go through before he comes home to make sure everything is in order, but you've guessed it, he will always find something!

Anyway sad, I understand, there's nothing worse than waiting for your husband to come in and the second he does he blows up!

I'm trying a new tactic and thus is day one, don't speak to him unless he speaks to me, don't ask him a question about anything, don't go into a room he's already in, wait for him to come to me.  And try, try and try not to get annoyed and so frustrated I say something.  I've learnt no matter what I say, or if I point out he is being unreasonable ever has any affect, just makes things worse.  So my advice would be to but your tongue.  No way for a marriage to work I know but at the moment I have to get through each day!

Hope this helps x
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2014, 01:07:10 PM »

Hi sadinsweden,

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And now we are on to the passive-aggressive stuff which completely infuriates me and exhausts me. I don't know how to handle it.

I've been locked out of our bedroom for three days. I've been sleeping on a tiny little couch while that SOB sleeps in our king size bed. He turned the Internet off so I couldn't work. On the second night, I got into the bedroom, got into bed, minding my own business, watching a video on my computer. He comes in, gets in bed, takes the sheets and turns the TV on blasting so now I can't hear my computer. I leave and go to the living room. While I'm in the living room watching TV, he turns the lights off on me. Repeatedly. (He does this from the bedroom. We have remotes for the lighting.) And tonight he has disconnected the TV so I can't watch Netflix (everything else on TV is in Swedish). He bought for me a heart bracelet for Valentines day. I took it off and placed it on the living room table. It's gone now. He locked the doors to the kitchen and spare room because he says that will insure that I will not slam them. Now I have to walk around thru various paths to get to the other kitchen door. Or unlock the door with a special skeleton key which hangs in the closet. He leaves the water pitcher empty. Leaves empty containers in the refrigerator ... . milk, cheese, cat food. Empties the garbage under the sink and leaves in there so every time I open the doors under the sink garbage falls out (I told him that if he messes up stuff, he cleans it up. I once had pizza on my kitchen wall for a week. I absolutely refuse to touch that garbage.)

In order to insure that I have PJs, I must go into the bedroom while he is at work and fetch them and put them into the drier in the bathroom so they are available to me. Same with my laptop and personal belongings. I actually have to prepare for the next day because I never know what he's going to hide or sabotage next or whether or not I'll be able to access my clothes in the bedroom. If I leave the house I have to hide my stuff or he'll take it. To ensure I have coffee in the morning, I have to take scoops out of the container and put it away somewhere so that I can make coffee in the morning. In the past, he has hidden the coffee or the coffee maker and left me a note saying "Enjoy your coffee".

some of what you describe is not passive aggressive but simply aggressive. This active sabotage needs to be stopped with boundaries as the last thing you need is for him to further escalate.

On the communication side there are a few tweaks to the messages you send that can make them more effective.

*sigh* So he just got home from work. He's still very angry. I was in the kitchen making myself a sandwich. I didn't say a word. He gets some groceries out of his bag and slams the paper towel down on the counter. It made me flinch. I say to him, very calmly, "Is that really necessary?". "Yesssss" He scowls at me, "because you are always in my way."

I say to him, "Please stop with the anger. If you can't say something nice, say nothing at all."

He continues muttering and swearing under his breath. I say to him "I just want a peaceful weekend with you. If we can't have that, will I have to check into a hotel for the night?"



He says "Yes, do that."

I'm not going anywhere unless I have to, but I'm so upset AGAIN that I'm shaking.

This is an very tough situation  . I really get what you want to say but the way you go about it tends to backfire as you have noticed. So here is a more detailed analysis of what you say, what impact it typically has and how to get the same said and done in a more effective manner.

You: very calmly, "Is that really necessary?"

Impact: The situation is anything but calm. So projecting calmness is invalidating. A validating response would need to raise to the slam provocation in some form. Also your question is not a question but a statement telling him off. Again Invalidating. As a result the situation will not get better.

Alternative: HEY <loud>. You are <fill favorite swearword> angry, I'm making myself a sandwich.

Notes: React loud but take it  a notch down towards the end

You: "Please stop with the anger. If you can't say something nice, say nothing at all."

Impact: Begging showing weakness in light of aggression - invalidating. Telling him what to do is controlling - invalidating again.

Alternative: "Your way is blasting out all your anger. As if alone on the world."

Notes: Validates what he is doing and validates his sense of acting out and being alone.

You: I say to him "I just want a peaceful weekend with you. If we can't have that, will I have to check into a hotel for the night?"

Impact: Your want for peace is absolutely invalidating as he is super angry. The question hands control to him. Control needs to be on your side - boundaries are under your control. Threats (as which your statement might be received) are not at all helpful - they are perceived as controlling and also can make bad behavior more persistent as they may be providing intermittent feedback.

Alternative: Until you cool down in some time I'll do something else. <walk out>

Notes: After a few exchanges with no progress it is time to save our breath.


He is behaving in an unacceptable manner  . Validation is not cuddling him but focusing exactly on his anger and spelling it out. When being under attack and exhausted as you are it is natural and tempting to just say what you want - sadly when dealing with a pwBPD this is not optimal. Avoiding invalidation is very important to get the situation under control.
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2014, 09:27:03 PM »

anOught! Ohhh! Ohhhhhhhh ... . ok, now I get it. Very helpful information and thank you so much for that. Some things are much clearer now with regards to how I communicate and validate.

But ... . how does one create boundaries for this type of aggressive behavior? I mean, when he would throw food, the consequence of that is that he cleans it up. When he destroys electronics etc the consequence is to replace them. This worked pretty well ... .

But perhaps I'm not seeing this properly either. Maybe it is not about consequences.

Regardless, I'm clueless as how to set a boundary for someone who shuts the lights off on you, hides the coffee maker, or locks you out of the bedroom.
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2014, 09:49:21 PM »

Sadinsweden and Sadsue

One question... . why have you stayed with these cruel and abusive men?  You have the right to make choices.
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