BPD and multiple personalities

[borderdude]

I got two BPD encounters in my life, both have signs of multiple personalities.


One thing to mention, where those personalities complete?

In a person with multiple personalities, I expect those to be fully working independent personas.

While in a BPD , in the cases I have encountered I remarked those personalities had more structure , they where correlated , dependent, you might say two aspects of the same person.


Another thing, personalities in BPD are not complete, sinse they crave narsisistic supply. They need supply from another external object to become complete.


So if I am right in my little theory, a BPD with npd cannot have completly dependent muliple personalities... .?


ANY COMMENT!

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[Rockylove]

... .While in a BPD , in the cases I have encountered I remarked those personalities had more structure , they where correlated , dependent, you might say two aspects of the same person.

Another thing, personalities in BPD are not complete, since they crave narcissistic supply. They need supply from another external object to become complete.

So if I am right in my little theory, a BPD with npd cannot have completely dependent multiple personalities... .?

I can only say what I know from my experience with my husband.  He is so uncertain of his identity that having two complete personalities almost seems a joke.  Yes, I do see him with 2 ALMOST distinct personalities (thus the Jekyll and Hyde), but they are so intertwined and are VERY aware of their connection~~unlike what I know of multiple personalities where they will not identify themselves with the other but manifest themselves as individuals.

[christoff522]

I got two BPD encounters in my life, both have signs of multiple personalities.


One thing to mention, where those personalities complete?

In a person with multiple personalities, I expect those to be fully working independent personas.

While in a BPD , in the cases I have encountered I remarked those personalities had more structure , they where correlated , dependent, you might say two aspects of the same person.


Another thing, personalities in BPD are not complete, sinse they crave narsisistic supply. They need supply from another external object to become complete.


So if I am right in my little theory, a BPD with npd cannot have completly dependent muliple personalities... .?


ANY COMMENT!

They're not multiple 'personalities' but multiple personality traits.

A personality is an identity, a consciousness with its own established emotional patterns. For example, a 60 year old white man could have multiple personalities including a 15 year old black girl, a spanish sailor, a 26 year old college student, They're all individuals with their own identities, beliefs and opinions.

A BPD who is one minute loving and happy, then the other hateful and angry is not the same thing... sure for us it's jarring, but they're personality traits that arise due to emotional instability (BPD is professionally known as emotional instability disorder). The way a BPD behaves is adaptations to compensate for this disorder, BPDs are narcisstic due to low self-esteem, seek out partners due to fear of being alone, hate weakness in others because they're weak themselves etc

BPD's have perpetual emptiness, and so seek relationships with others to make themselves complete. You've got to feel for them... the best way to look at a BPD is like somebody on autopilot, just trying to survive, acting robotically to internal and external stimuli. They don't know themselves and what they want - because their emotions flit constantly, they don't know what they love - because what they love changes all the time. You see, not only do their interpersonal relationships suffer, their entire lives and careers suffer.

[waverider]

pwBPD rarely feel complete, this is half of their problem. The other half is trying to cover up the fear of discovery of this fact.

[borderdude]

pwBPD rarely feel complete, this is half of their problem. The other half is trying to cover up the fear of discovery of this fact.

I actually experienced this , my BPD ex where suddenly "feeding" of me that day , since her bf left, few days later she was back to her old patterns with the bf back, and I was not in her reality anymore.

I am put in a backup guy category , when her rs is shaky , she need some new narcistic supply "at once", don't think she can handle the pain.

when I broke up with her she had went without supply for a while , she acted more and more child-like ... .spooky!

[Wrongturn1]

For what it's worth, my sister is an M.D. psychiatrist, and one day I deftly turned a conversation with her to the topic of BPD (I have not told her I suspect my wife is BPD). 

My sister's professional opinion was that she does not view dissociative identity disorder (":)ID", formerly called "multiple personality disorder" as a separate/independent disorder in and of itself; rather, she considers DID to be an extreme manifestation of BPD, where the patient has no sense of self and so invents and simultaneously carries around lots of separate identities that they manifest at various times.

[borderdude]

For what it's worth, my sister is an M.D. psychiatrist, and one day I deftly turned a conversation with her to the topic of BPD (I have not told her I suspect my wife is BPD).  

My sister's professional opinion was that she does not view dissociative identity disorder (":)ID", formerly called "multiple personality disorder" as a separate/independent disorder in and of itself; rather, she considers DID to be an extreme manifestation of BPD, where the patient has no sense of self and so invents and simultaneously carries around lots of separate identities that they manifest at various times.

I know a woman , she has 5 COMPLETE personalities, they are totally  independent as far as I know, she does not show NPD traits. She is sometimes multiplexing between them when she speaks to me, one person likes me, one are skeptic, one are neutral ... .etc, and I she her face is changing trough all the persons expressions.

My BPD person has two higly correlated personas , both?(at least one) needs narcisitic supply to be "complete" (or at least fuller). When she swaps to the "other" she got a strange energy about her, higly radiating or "dark cloud", like a hurt child, sad dark eyes. She did that when I met her , I felt the whoole room was filled with her energy, just like you could touch it,... .yes strange.


That other person = "her inner hurting child", is what I miss, like a caretaker or parent, just want to save that little child from making more problems, and gain more hurt. I know that if I take on a parental role , they will never experience , do thier errors and grow up.

... .but do they learn from their failures , if they are "arrested" in their development at 3yo, no idea, maybe with therapy.

Just a comment, I am not very skilled in this.

[Wrongturn1]

I know a woman , she has 5 COMPLETE personalities, they are totally  independent as far as I know, she does not show NPD traits. She is sometimes multiplexing between them when she speaks to me, one person likes me, one are skeptic, one are neutral ... .etc, and I she her face is changing trough all the persons expressions.

Bizarre... .it might be interesting to meet someone like that at a bus stop or a cocktail party.  Can't imagine being in a close or romantic relationship with someone who behaved like that.

[borderdude]

I know a woman , she has 5 COMPLETE personalities, they are totally  independent as far as I know, she does not show NPD traits. She is sometimes multiplexing between them when she speaks to me, one person likes me, one are skeptic, one are neutral ... .etc, and I she her face is changing trough all the persons expressions.

Bizarre... .it might be interesting to meet someone like that at a bus stop or a cocktail party.  Can't imagine being in a close or romantic relationship with someone who behaved like that.

what about sex life , who are you interactiong with , and how long will it take ?

[Indyan]

a spanish sailor

[christoff522]

a spanish sailor

hola senor! 

[waverider]

... .but do they learn from their failures , if they are "arrested" in their development at 3yo, no idea, maybe with therapy.

Living in the feeling of now and rewriting the past to validate how they feel now is the main hurdle for them to learn from past mistakes, they distance cause from consequence as the consequence is reattributed to something, or someone, else. The result is they repeat the cause not expecting the same result.

Their recollection of chains of events is corrupted

[borderdude]

... .but do they learn from their failures , if they are "arrested" in their development at 3yo, no idea, maybe with therapy.

Living in the feeling of now and rewriting the past to validate how they feel now is the main hurdle for them to learn from past mistakes, they distance cause from consequence as the consequence is reattributed to something, or someone, else. The result is they repeat the cause not expecting the same result.

Their recollection of chains of events is corrupted

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