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MindfulBreath

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« on: March 26, 2025, 04:03:39 AM »

I am so sick of being stuck in the cycle. It feels stable, good, loving, and, dare I say, happy and salvageable and hopeful, for about 2-3 months. Then something is triggered and Mr. Hyde emerges. I was just looking through some past messages when I needed to leave the house and spend a few nights away because my BPDh completely lost it for about a week - spurred when he was angry about getting stuck in traffic and then devolving into everything being wrong with the world. Almost two months ago exactly. And then another episode was three months before that.

Now, I can feel it coming. And it is literally right on the brink of one of THE most important moments in my business. I'm hosting a week-long online summit with 10 speakers and 150+ signups, which could make or break my business this year. I am stressed and need support, and he can't offer it. Instead, the accusations start to arise about how I never support him and prioritize the 150 strangers over him, and how he's always supporting me. I am so sad to say that I knew this would probably happen.

Is it just me, or do major life events that are supposed to be things you want to remember and celebrate end up being completely tainted by their bad behavior? It makes me so incredibly sad.

After this event, in about a month, I have my 15-year school reunion overseas that my friends and I have been looking forward to for months. After my husband embarrassed me at a friend's wedding over the summer by getting massively jealous over me paying attention to old friends over him and then refusing to attend the related social events, then making our trip home almost unbearable with his toxic energy, I swore that I would no longer invite him to gatherings with friends and family (this also following him getting in an irreparable fight with my SIL, who also happens to be my best friend). So he's not coming to the reunion, but will go off and do his own thing, and then we will travel together afterwards. I am terrified that yet another trip will be tainted by some bizarre fight that will emerge out of which we won't be able to salvage the trip.

And the third thing is that I'm hosting a wellness retreat in late June, and I'm absolutely terrified about managing the stress of organizing it while trying to pretend that everything is fine and happy, just not to set him off. And then, of course, making it clear that I won't be available to talk to him on the phone throughout the retreat or be able to be his place to vent when I do check in with him.

These are supposed to be joyous milestones--the biggest ones in my life this year, and all I can think about is if and how he will taint them with his episodes.

Part of me wants to give myself an ultimatum - if he can't support me during these most important events, it will finally be time to leave. I want to be with someone who is excited for me - who can support me in challenging and stressful times. Who understands when I need to take my attention off them and give it to other people and things before returning it to them (where it is most of the time anyway). But I guess I can't expect any of this with someone with BPD?

He is my closest family - and my friends live very far away from me as well. Part of me thinks that I just need to find other people to celebrate these things with (but who, when I'm so isolated?), but then I wonder, what is the point of a marriage if your partner can't love you through the hardest moments, celebrate your accomplishments, and want to find a way to integrate with and love your family and friends?

Why do we keep doing this to ourselves?
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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2025, 10:24:17 AM »

It's so disappointing when, like you said, the one person in life you feel like you should be able to turn to for support and celebration, either just isn't available, or seems to actively make things worse. To have that happen over and over again would wear on anyone  Virtual hug (click to insert in post)

It does seem like BPD traits and behaviors can increase around "high emotion" events such as holidays, birthdays, anniversaries, medical incidents, etc.  There are many stories here about a member being sick, and the pwBPD really falling apart/escalating dysfunctional behaviors. I wonder if for pwBPD, they fear "emotional support abandonment", as others' emotions and focuses (foci?) are directed elsewhere. "Who's paying attention to me? Have I been forgotten? Do I matter too?" Without inner resources, it certainly makes sense that pwBPD would feel "abandoned", because they are so low-skill in terms of self-soothing. It's a tragedy that BPD so severely limits the person's ability to provide appropriate support to others... it takes a significant toll on close relationships.

So it's not surprising to hear that your H not only has a cycle/timeline, but also seems to escalate around high-emotion times. He sounds pretty limited in his capacity to regulate his own fears and use appropriate tools and skills.

Seems like there are two things to look at: getting through the immediate short term, and decision making long term.

You have from now through June (short term) to get through these moments in a way that is "less bad" -- using your own tools and skills and self care to do what you need to do without adding gas to the fires. That doesn't mean it'll go smoothly, it probably won't, not entirely, but for the next few months, it may be more effective to accept "this will be difficult, and I will do my part not to escalate things, regardless of what he does".

I think you're right to assume, going into this season, that he is so significantly limited that he will not be a reliable source of support. Yes, the bigger question (for later) is -- do you want to be in a marriage with someone that limited, and it's a fair question. For now, though, short term, it may help to radically accept that this is how he'll be, and find the support you need elsewhere. In fact, you are welcome to start a thread about your business successes, reunions, and retreats here! I think we'd all love to hear how they go, and it's such a diverse group that you'll find others who have had similar experiences and can understand your stresses and triumphs.

Short term, again, some pwBPD seem to do better with tangible reminders/reassurances of your return. For example, leaving an item of yours with him (shirt, picture, collage, stuffed animal, etc) so he has something to look at and feel while you are temporarily away. I hear you that he has an episode coming on, so it may be difficult to find "down time" to have a conversation near baseline about that idea.

There may be other short term approaches that "speak his language" about reassuring him of your return. Again, this isn't about "now you have to do this forever", or "he gets to be babied/coddled/placated", etc. It's about: what will be effective for getting the two of you through the next few months, in the "least bad" way possible, that isn't accidentally escalating. You know him best, so you'll know what might speak to him.

My thought about long term decisions, such as remaining in the marriage or not, is: how about getting through the next 3 months, and allowing yourself to look at that decision then, vs trying to sort it out now. I wonder if you may have more emotional resources/energy, and be at more of an emotional baseline, after June. It's difficult to be in a balanced, grounded headspace with so much going on...  just an idea for gifting yourself one less thing to have to solve right now, with so much else happening.

Part of me wants to give myself an ultimatum - if he can't support me during these most important events, it will finally be time to leave. I want to be with someone who is excited for me - who can support me in challenging and stressful times. Who understands when I need to take my attention off them and give it to other people and things before returning it to them (where it is most of the time anyway). But I guess I can't expect any of this with someone with BPD?

That could certainly be a fair and valid boundary (internal rule for yourself/your own life), that you choose to be in relationships with persons who support you, and you choose to end relationships that don't offer the support you need.

It's also good that you recognize that BPD is a significantly impairing mental illness. Expecting him to support you like a non-BPD person would be unfair. That doesn't mean your boundary is unfair -- we can have whatever rules for ourselves we want, that align with our values -- it just means it would be the worst of both worlds to both tell yourself "I won't stay in a relationship like this" but to have expected him to "act normal".

Maybe over the next 3 months, you can make some neutral observations about how things go, and use that as information to help you make some wise decisions. It could be that you find a way to accept his severe limitations and receive support elsewhere, and that is "workable enough" for the two of you. You may also find that you need your spouse to be your biggest supporter (a valid need), and that is not happening here due to his deeply relationally impairing mental illness, so you choose to end the relationship.

No right or wrong choices... just ideas for getting clarity about your needs and values.

Really sorry you're going through relational stress during this season of your life.
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2025, 08:27:51 PM »

Wow, Kells. Thank you so much for this incredibly helpful and thoughtful message. It is incredibly grounding and validating and reassuring. I can do this - focus on the short term, make objective observations, do my best to not be reactive, and then, post-June, re-evaluate where we are and what happened and what I want for the future (because that is also the time when there will be a lot of pressure to have a baby or not). Big decisions to come!
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2025, 10:09:35 PM »

Hi there,

It’s not a coincidence that there were some recent posts in the parents section about BPD kids falling apart exactly at the wrong moment, when something is going on in your life that might require extra energy or attention. Examples include sickness, holidays, birthdays and celebrations. In my life, a recent example was moving houses. I’ve come to see my adult BPD stepdaughter as a « spoiler, » in the sense that she will lash out at exactly these moments—when we are packing up for a vacation or packing up the house to move. I think she fears that we aren’t paying enough attention to her, and so she inserts herself to reclaim that attention, even if it is negative attention. One of the times she attempted suicide was on my birthday, and I’ll never be sure if that was the trigger or not. And I don’t usually do much for my birthday, just a dinner with my husband.

In fact, my husband will do this too, even if he doesn’t have BPD (though I think he has some BPD traits from time to time). For example, when I was busy preparing for my father’s funeral, he threw a major tantrum because nobody was available to pick him up at the airport. He refused to take an Uber, even when I offered to pay and arrange for it myself to pick him up. (I had paid his airfare too, and I had tried to arrange his trip so that he would be inconvenienced as little as possible, as I traveled a couple of days earlier to support my mom.). Nevertheless, he threw an absolute fit. It turns out that my poor mother agreed to pick him up, the same day as the funeral. I was busy getting flowers or something. My point is, the one time I needed a little support and understanding, he was screaming at me for being a s**** wife and saying my family was inconsiderate because I wasn’t able to pick him up at the airport. He couldn’t stand not being the focus of all my attention, and it didn’t matter that it was my dad’s funeral after a painful death from cancer, something that happens once in a lifetime. I was so rattled by my husband’s unexpected outburst that it eclipsed the sadness for my dad, and I had a very hard time getting through the day. If this happens to normal people, it’s an order of magnitude worse with BPD.
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