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« on: September 07, 2025, 02:00:47 AM »

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half hr i been looking at this blank page deciding what subject and then how long staring at that but not for having nothing to say just having to ground myself in preperation for the sadness, confusions, hurtful blame, rumenating questions that have no answers and hope that has no soil.

                                                          This is something I wrote — a poem called Discarded . It says more than I can type out fresh right now, so I’m sharing it here as an image.

She went straight to no contact other than she said she went through my phone i said so she sent me message shots  i told her exactly what and why and she said im a manipulator and i didnt know what to say i told the truth i cant elaborate more than the truth and what lie?
i will tell lies in the sense of when asked do i know how fast i was riding i will say no everytime but to her nahh i didnt and i wasnt about to start and while im stunned by the accusation coz it was fierce and i knew she believed i was talking PLEASE READ so i froze and took every hit and each word stung like salt on the wound of despair and she is was my only person and i have dbt knowledge and radically accepted shes gone i can say it with belief and conviction mentally but every time i need my person it hurts the loss is so tangible and overwhelming as it just compounds and i am a v ery hard to get attached to person,since changing countries at 14 to live with a parent i never met and never been to country or know anyone there i was in work by 15 in construction and nothing stuck with me through life my father and that country taught me not to trust and ahow to store anger but also how to live alone when told you belong.
we met round 25yrs ago and both had partners and all the way our partners changed but a few years ago we were together and both single and had a night of unbridled passion that involved  heavy rain thunder lightning and a rooftop. just paused and had to pull back can still feel my lips turmned down on ends and temple is tight and furrowed as i type but releasing so next few months later i need to change rentals and she has mortgage and i say nahh not moving in with you and meant it and she understood it was to keep and protect what we had until maybe later we can do that safely a month later a traumatic moment left me stuck in flight mode i ended up on certraline and valium and as i would put it back then;" im not firing right" i had to be out in weeks had lived there 10years hadnt found a place just not processing anything everything was overload too hard i wasv stuttering first time in life in my late forties and fkn legs would not stop bouncing when i was sat down and that was affecting anyone in the room visibly which was an overwhelm of itself months of this till psychiatrist diagnosed anxiety mood dysregulation and ptsd takes me off the zoloft puts me on fluvoxamine bit higher mg and a stronger benzo for night and i got better no stutter and legs stop now is hypervigilance but i can and do deal with them issues by solidarity and thats now so back to 2023 and i accept moving in with her on grounds its not permanent soon as get back to work i find another place.
not to take anything away from or disrespect any other relationships i had been in all 3 of them though long tern i was happy like i thought i knew what happy was i remember plenty of times i said im happy but being so close to her and her energy and beauty and way she looked at me i dropped all my defences i let her lead  & committed to wanting her to finally be treated right and never lie to her which is kinda easy when its your person for decades she knows all i am that is hidden she knows mey ex partners she knows about the fighting and the jail and the detention centre kids all of it, never to intentionally let her down never to raise my voice or do anything that even resembles dominance or dv or any violance physical mental or emotional and for months it was like it was meant to be and she was looking after me with the mental impact of the trauma and problems i was having i knew about her of course i had been her person to, well onre of then i spose in her case anyway remember the part i said about dropping all my defenses well i wasnt seeing what was going on around us and i am usually very aware of that and my hypervigilance was honing in on fear of possible threats immediately firing right im honed in on seeing them manifesting in changes around me by being aware of changes in patterns and behaviours and i got good reads on body language and eyes tone of voice  rarely caufght unprepared but since the meds and  not viewing through discerning lens i trusted her so just watched her so if her family members or friends made her relaxed and happy i would be relaxed and accepting. dumb.
missed the jealousy from all of them and missed my own adult kids jealousy Aalso and how they were not happy i had moved citys and after a few questions about me made it clear to them that she wouldnt engage and shut PLEASE READ down they stasrted plotting, i missed it.
anyway thats prelude i loved her, would never have left her or betrayed her and i am a man that can say that and know it and so did she until things i should of seen.
i noticed she would say was this you and i would say nahhh but she wouldnt ask who else and i aint giving them up depite knowing full well coz i can tell they in serious PLEASE READ  some of them things and sometimes she tear into me and the guilty right there letting me saying nothing and when i feel im getting thin i know if i turn on them she be upset i cant get angry with her i cant so ive had enough its going no where i walk away.

assessed safest move is leave quietly.

more of that

i knew about splitting i had never experienced it i did not realise i was feeding that part of her defence mecghanisms and one day i realised she was getting upset for something she had wrong and when saying because this full on gaslit me and confused the hell out of me coz i can see how real her distiorted version is to her and i cant shut it down like i would any other person alive and the stuttering kicks off and she starts mimicking me and i can hear myself stuttering and feel the emotion behind it just wanting to calm her down i know to give her space not do anything for her feel threatened and the way she done it bang i triggered and i was so hurt and embarressed and ashamed of myself all of it i am not proud of punching myself in the mouth and face in rage and for the critics no it was not a cry for attention i bled and swelled before her sorrys became un muffled and all i remember through the fuzziness is the tears in her eyes and the knowledge i had scared her and failed myself and if you were a fly on the wall you just saw my entire body fold inward and lose composure i know from exoperiance its stored memory as i now return from mindfulness exersizes.

sorry for any negativity or distress that may have caused anyone i just want to be clear i am not claiming poor me.
i am not perfect, i am flawed i am sorry i let her down. i am menta;lly accepting but not mending.
i know she is better off without me. i want her to be happy, i still love her i always have loved her i can love a woman and never experiance her flesh. i want to be able to cherish the time we had together and the memory of her smiling at me and not have to feel the pain of questions that could be answered but im told wont be and questions i know are emotional traps that any answer is going to feed the depressive thoughts that give them space in the first place.

dumb ones like eg does she ever miss me. tell me how a yes is any less painful than a no?

i could handle her with another wing around her  if it meant having my person back i would be protective but not jealous i watched her with other paertbners long time and im going to stop becayse im breaking wand this is where she is missed the most not in bed and i am so sorry to you if i have stirred any memories of monsters in your own past or present please know i do not support or condone violance and i am suffering while shes jumping out of planes and living the life she deserves thankfully.i only know through hearing things and i wish i didnt hear her mentioned as it hurts too much, i cant even go into photo gallery because i see us and dont have capacity to remove them or strength to embrace them.

umm please ask me anything it will be more helpful and easieer than what im doing now and i hope i have not made bpd sound like im being blameful or spiteful as im not i dont talk much and when i do it aint about feelings i guard to protect myself from the judgement and labels of the world that doesnt feel whats felt anymore.

i will be honest if asked something that doesnt expose me anymore than that above.

hope your well enough


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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2025, 03:03:04 AM »

Hello and welcome to the family.  I'm so sorry the past year has been so hard, and honestly it sounds like it's been hard for you even longer than that.

Can I ask if you've considered therapy so you'd be able to talk this out with a professional face to face?  I ask because that's what I ended up doing after my BPD ex-wife and i broke up.  So much didn't make sense and I found myself having circular thoughts in my head trying to make everything to fit together. 

That's because what you and I experienced was actual trauma, and some trauma can leave mental scars that are hard to get rid of on our own.  Having a professional guide me through my thoughts and experiences was so much of a help because it made me realize that I wasn't alone, I wasn't the only one who felt that way.

You're still hurting because you haven't moved on, you haven't let go.  And I do realize how impossibly hard that can be.  Do you still communicate with her at all?  Or have friends in common?

It really sounds like you need closure, and I'm saying a prayer for you now that you'll find it someday.
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2025, 11:44:26 AM »

sorry spewed up a bit, got lost & ileft a lot out anyway im here coz i just miss my person.
i dont give a rats ass about having her back in that status.
i know im in a duscard however im not blocked and i dont have facebook or any of them things and have always refrained from snooping or lookung her up coz if i was meant to know i would.
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she  never actually told me to go,
i was left alone once in her house when she went to her property and its her fkn house im only there coz she told me i can sort myself out anyway just a painful time and waiting for her return and knowing she will expect or at least be looking for a dirty sink kinda thing i bloody dusted her house was to her standard and hear her get back and her brother and nephew are with her never got to talk next day she was all dressed up and moving past me and around the p;ace interacting with them cheerful and just hurting me like i was PLEASE READ and left i asked them whats the plan oh we just came  oh yeah whats the next plan we going go back tommorrow and im driving this cat and she driving that one i thought yip i dont need her house im not a free loader im goimg to show her i dont need nor care about her stuff jumped in falcon little bit of  rear wheels  exceed car momentum  just a squirt and off wasnt going load up the street shed flip and id have nothing if i sdone that trust me would not of heated the tyres just spun and as soon as she  gpot home obviously shes on the phone into me about how disrespectful i am and how dare i burnout in her street i just shhoook my head coz was wondering whjat them pricks that had estranged from her for over 20yrs would do and believe me i could of done both tyres i know when i say would of scratched the road if some stones were there but no way i left tread and when i asked what makes you ask she can still smell it in the house. bullPLEASE READ. so next shes into me about when you going get your stuff i ask how long i got she reckons dont want you here if im not scratch my head thin king ok and starts being hard i ask when suits you couple days later i hire a van go up get what i can and that was lAST i saw her left clothes motorbike car tv and PLEASE READ she was just being real mean and saying stuff that hurt and bringing up personal things shared to prove herself justified and i was just hurt and shocked the way she was saying them things and her face she was talking to an enemy and ive really struggled with she must be right, how have i been so misguided about myself if my best version ive ever been is getting hated i must be bad like i was told since 14.
any way im sorry im trying make it short i just see on internet and google   that borderline discards finality, im just a piece of PLEASE READ and my names garbage irreversable.how do i shut down the bloody sadness and sense of mourning?
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2025, 12:07:17 PM »

Hello brokened,

I’m sorry it still hurts so bad. It might be a good idea to seek a counselor or therapist to help you out as Pook suggested. Being confused about the behavior of a pwBPD and it causing severe trauma is very common, especially with a romantic partner.

It’s good you’re not in contact with them. It causes more trauma and upset to you. In my case , my late ex-husband wanted money from me and professed deep love. He already had another girlfriend within a week of me dropping him. It’s not normal and a clear sign of their mental illness.

You deserve to feel better.

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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2025, 12:56:23 PM »

 hi thanks for reply i was just giving up thinking after what i said about my failing us both it was deemed what dyd i expect  and thanking pook as i have seen his advice on a page i was lookung at but as i posted it warned in red letters read a new reply and i did and came back to empty page.

i have been in therapy regularly since the day i needed medication months before when i was still the person she had known for decades and had been with right up until that and im torn because she didnt discard that version of me and now enough of that me is back on new meds im back to thoughts  leading emotion  if im in a safe place when i wasnt it was emotions driving thoughts if it makes sense but if not basically it was a very different me. now im not as i was before but i am closer and she said to me once she didnt know me and i had been tricking her but now i was showing my true colours and i said im not firing right but she was convinced and i cant help think she might talk to me again now im not stuttering and legs are still when sitting and a little more me, not anywhere near it but still closer than i was

again thank you for seeing me

i must sleep now its after 3am and not good to aproach this with others so tired i will come back thoufgh after breakfast as im still off work hrom being scared that day in a way my system hasnt switched back out of
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2025, 01:42:15 PM »

It sounds like you’re having the 3am scaries. We all have them! Things seem much worse and futile then.

Try to get up and out of the house after you wake up. I feel better when I do. This, too, shall pass.

Healing comes in waves. I climb on top of the wave and think this is it. I’m better. This horrible episode of my life is done.  Then I feel more anxious and depressed a few days later, thinking this is how I’ll feel the rest of my life. It’s going from being Winnie the Pooh to Eeyore in fast succession.

It definitely evens out with time and with effort. I’m noticing my old self is coming back albeit with a lot more caution and discernment of people and situations. It will for you too!
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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2025, 03:48:42 AM »

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half hr i been looking at this blank page deciding what subject and then how long staring at that but not for having nothing to say just having to ground myself in preperation for the sadness, confusions, hurtful blame, rumenating questions that have no answers and hope that has no soil.

                                                          This is something I wrote — a poem called Discarded . It says more than I can type out fresh right now, so I’m sharing it here as an image.

She went straight to no contact other than she said she went through my phone i said so she sent me message shots  i told her exactly what and why and she said im a manipulator and i didnt know what to say i told the truth i cant elaborate more than the truth and what lie?
i will tell lies in the sense of when asked do i know how fast i was riding i will say no everytime but to her nahh i didnt and i wasnt about to start and while im stunned by the accusation coz it was fierce and i knew she believed i was talking PLEASE READ so i froze and took every hit and each word stung like salt on the wound of despair and she is was my only person and i have dbt knowledge and radically accepted shes gone i can say it with belief and conviction mentally but every time i need my person it hurts the loss is so tangible and overwhelming as it just compounds and i am a v ery hard to get attached to person,since changing countries at 14 to live with a parent i never met and never been to country or know anyone there i was in work by 15 in construction and nothing stuck with me through life my father and that country taught me not to trust and ahow to store anger but also how to live alone when told you belong.
we met round 25yrs ago and both had partners and all the way our partners changed but a few years ago we were together and both single and had a night of unbridled passion that involved  heavy rain thunder lightning and a rooftop. just paused and had to pull back can still feel my lips turmned down on ends and temple is tight and furrowed as i type but releasing so next few months later i need to change rentals and she has mortgage and i say nahh not moving in with you and meant it and she understood it was to keep and protect what we had until maybe later we can do that safely a month later a traumatic moment left me stuck in flight mode i ended up on certraline and valium and as i would put it back then;" im not firing right" i had to be out in weeks had lived there 10years hadnt found a place just not processing anything everything was overload too hard i wasv stuttering first time in life in my late forties and fkn legs would not stop bouncing when i was sat down and that was affecting anyone in the room visibly which was an overwhelm of itself months of this till psychiatrist diagnosed anxiety mood dysregulation and ptsd takes me off the zoloft puts me on fluvoxamine bit higher mg and a stronger benzo for night and i got better no stutter and legs stop now is hypervigilance but i can and do deal with them issues by solidarity and thats now so back to 2023 and i accept moving in with her on grounds its not permanent soon as get back to work i find another place.
not to take anything away from or disrespect any other relationships i had been in all 3 of them though long tern i was happy like i thought i knew what happy was i remember plenty of times i said im happy but being so close to her and her energy and beauty and way she looked at me i dropped all my defences i let her lead  & committed to wanting her to finally be treated right and never lie to her which is kinda easy when its your person for decades she knows all i am that is hidden she knows mey ex partners she knows about the fighting and the jail and the detention centre kids all of it, never to intentionally let her down never to raise my voice or do anything that even resembles dominance or dv or any violance physical mental or emotional and for months it was like it was meant to be and she was looking after me with the mental impact of the trauma and problems i was having i knew about her of course i had been her person to, well onre of then i spose in her case anyway remember the part i said about dropping all my defenses well i wasnt seeing what was going on around us and i am usually very aware of that and my hypervigilance was honing in on fear of possible threats immediately firing right im honed in on seeing them manifesting in changes around me by being aware of changes in patterns and behaviours and i got good reads on body language and eyes tone of voice  rarely caufght unprepared but since the meds and  not viewing through discerning lens i trusted her so just watched her so if her family members or friends made her relaxed and happy i would be relaxed and accepting. dumb.
missed the jealousy from all of them and missed my own adult kids jealousy Aalso and how they were not happy i had moved citys and after a few questions about me made it clear to them that she wouldnt engage and shut PLEASE READ down they stasrted plotting, i missed it.
anyway thats prelude i loved her, would never have left her or betrayed her and i am a man that can say that and know it and so did she until things i should of seen.
i noticed she would say was this you and i would say nahhh but she wouldnt ask who else and i aint giving them up depite knowing full well coz i can tell they in serious PLEASE READ  some of them things and sometimes she tear into me and the guilty right there letting me saying nothing and when i feel im getting thin i know if i turn on them she be upset i cant get angry with her i cant so ive had enough its going no where i walk away.

assessed safest move is leave quietly.

more of that

i knew about splitting i had never experienced it i did not realise i was feeding that part of her defence mecghanisms and one day i realised she was getting upset for something she had wrong and when saying because this full on gaslit me and confused the hell out of me coz i can see how real her distiorted version is to her and i cant shut it down like i would any other person alive and the stuttering kicks off and she starts mimicking me and i can hear myself stuttering and feel the emotion behind it just wanting to calm her down i know to give her space not do anything for her feel threatened and the way she done it bang i triggered and i was so hurt and embarressed and ashamed of myself all of it i am not proud of punching myself in the mouth and face in rage and for the critics no it was not a cry for attention i bled and swelled before her sorrys became un muffled and all i remember through the fuzziness is the tears in her eyes and the knowledge i had scared her and failed myself and if you were a fly on the wall you just saw my entire body fold inward and lose composure i know from exoperiance its stored memory as i now return from mindfulness exersizes.

sorry for any negativity or distress that may have caused anyone i just want to be clear i am not claiming poor me.
i am not perfect, i am flawed i am sorry i let her down. i am menta;lly accepting but not mending.
i know she is better off without me. i want her to be happy, i still love her i always have loved her i can love a woman and never experiance her flesh. i want to be able to cherish the time we had together and the memory of her smiling at me and not have to feel the pain of questions that could be answered but im told wont be and questions i know are emotional traps that any answer is going to feed the depressive thoughts that give them space in the first place.

dumb ones like eg does she ever miss me. tell me how a yes is any less painful than a no?

i could handle her with another wing around her  if it meant having my person back i would be protective but not jealous i watched her with other paertbners long time and im going to stop becayse im breaking wand this is where she is missed the most not in bed and i am so sorry to you if i have stirred any memories of monsters in your own past or present please know i do not support or condone violance and i am suffering while shes jumping out of planes and living the life she deserves thankfully.i only know through hearing things and i wish i didnt hear her mentioned as it hurts too much, i cant even go into photo gallery because i see us and dont have capacity to remove them or strength to embrace them.

umm please ask me anything it will be more helpful and easieer than what im doing now and i hope i have not made bpd sound like im being blameful or spiteful as im not i dont talk much and when i do it aint about feelings i guard to protect myself from the judgement and labels of the world that doesnt feel whats felt anymore.

i will be honest if asked something that doesnt expose me anymore than that above.

hope your well enough


it was hard to go where i did in post, thank you for pushing through it and replying with no judgement and yeah psychologist & psychiatrist were already regular for my recovery from a trauma thats had me medicated since that happened, that was  months after we started sleeping in same bed each night.
 till then i was anle to process and respond to her and take nothing to heart and not knowing if i might of had more time with her if not for that massive shift in my mentality is hard
 i  would of been me still,
i would of had capacity to find another place to live
 i would not of allowed myself to give another so much of my all
 learned in early teens  people are only able to burn you with as much as they are given & feel responsible for the hurt by trusting another with my vulnerabilities.
 i gave her enough to make me question my own worth
 i gave her my best and if my best isnt good enough  for the person id do anything for then what measure is my best?
what good am i now to another partner broken doubting my best is good enough
 if the one person that knows me inside out, my  morals and ethics,  nature and beliefs says im manipulative and play games with so much conviction i have no chance of anyone taking time to see whats behind the mask..

if not for wrong meds would i have reacted so poorly? should be  who cares!
what if she knows im a not stuttering and bit more me?should be some friend she turned out to be!
 even with awareness no one can rewrite a path walked with what ifs,  and knowing if she cared i wouldnt struglle with wondering i would know,  my damn emotions are still hers more than mine and its embarresing but less so now from reading on this forum.

still i hurt for her and it does come from a place of genuine care, not selfishness or dependance
and that just makes it worse really

writing on here opened a flood gate and i apologise for the mess i posted.

no contact Telhill, thankfully after reading here, wish i knew about this forum earlier as i see is a common thing....i would be dishonest if i didnt say i feel rejected even more because of it seeing as so many others had some back n forth first i feel lesser and have to be kind to myself to minimise that hurt and self judgement as impossible to completely remove it still.
 
only 1 person really sees her and i make sure not to cross paths that way and im  sure the kids are still friends on the facebook and things but anyone can go and be nosey on the internet if so inclined.

thank you for your prayers pooko they carry weight and are heard if not always answered

again thank you for advice and for your time to engage
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