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« on: September 22, 2021, 03:52:37 PM »

Hi,
I need to take this out of me.
I will not go into details of my relationship, there is more from me on this forum, but anyways you all probably know that all cases are similar in a lot of respects, so I will just try to pinpoint the differences for a start.
I am married for 14 years and have a 10 yo son with my wife. Her son 22 yo also lives with us. I know (suspect) about her BPD for around a year. From the start it was the same, the rollercoaster ride that never stops.
I learned to manage this, and even taught our son some coping skills. She looses her temper 2-3 times a week with more or less intensity but it's always the same - I am the one that ruined her life, nothing in her life is worthwhile except our son. From the start I had the plan to move him away from her and later dump her. She can not understand why I don't give her divorce when it is clear that she hates and despises me. And so on. Most of the times in front of our son.
But she is also incredible caring in between, a fully functional mother and special education teacher. Never has episodes anywhere asides from home. She is the most wonderful if a bit introvert person for everyone outside our house.
Also, couple of weeks after we first met I was diagnosed with diabetes T1 and she was 110% with me throughout all of it, totally by my side and helping me in all ways. Also, we complete each other totally since I am a creative, dis-organised type, spending a lot of time "inside my head", while she is down to earth, incredibly tidy, organised and concrete.

So in short, my decision is to stay with her no matter what. Our son is deeply emotional and strongly bonded to both of us and to the image of us as a family and there is no chance that I would leave two of them alone. Also, it seems totally impossible both to leave him with her, or to ask for custody by using her state of mind because that would destroy her since he is all she's really got going for her.

So I am coping, tolerating everything and basically always just waiting for the storm to pass.

Today we had a really nice day, went together to see our son's soccer practice, did some shopping and came home. While I was with her in the bath (we have a ritual where she showers sitting in a tub and I sit on the toilette cover speaking with her), at one point she "lost it" and started to blame me for taking away our son from her.

For the first time I did something slightly different. I felt some kind of strength I never felt before and I said, "You are now losing your temper, listen to what you are saying. Please try to control your emotions."
Off course, that triggered even stronger response (I knew it was coming) and she started raising tension. I said, please, look what is happening, remember where we were just minutes ago. You are now pushing yourself up in your anger and you sound as if I was that evil guy. You know that I am not evil, and that you are not evil. Please, be adult and control your emotions. I understand that you are angry, and I admit to my mistakes and I will correct them, I will contact you and ask your opinion about every little thing concerning our little one (the trigger was me saying to him that we are going to bed in 5 minutes and she said "why don't you leave him awake for some more" and then it all started in a second). But your emotion right now about that is totally out of proportion and you should try to control it"

She then totally lost it, said, I need to divorce you, and shut the doors of bathroom.
Then after couple of seconds she came out and said, "Now decide, are you packing your bags right now and leaving, or will it be me and our son? You must decide."
"No one is leaving", I said.
"OK. Bring me two bags."
"I wont", I said.
Furiously she ran to the storage rooms, "Where are those bags? Tell me". I said, "I won't".
She returned to bathroom and banged the door again.
Came out after a sec and looked at me, "You will leave now". I said "I won't".
Then, for the first time, she hit me couple of times on the head, and again banged the door.
"Are you aware that you just hit me 4 times? Do you think that this is OK? We should now all go to sleep, and handle all of this tomorrow".
She started drying her hair. I used that moment to go to our little one and tell him:
"Mom has flipped again. Don't worry it will be OK. It will perhaps sound rough but don't be afraid, it will all pass. But I think tonight we will not have a night talk" (we have a routine where I come to him before sleep, he sleeps with her in the master bedroom because we had an earthquake recently and he has some cabinets over his bed so I sleep in his room).
He looked at me, scared but understanding, and just nodded.
I turned all the lights off. They went to bed.
Now she sent me a whatsapp note reading:
"Thank you for everything in this 14 years... I am sorry that it had to end in this way... in the quickest way I will contact the lawerys so that this agony does not last any longer because of the mental health of the child because he has nothing to do with this and does not need to watch and listen to this every day... and the worst thing is that you treat me like a lunatic... I am really sorry about everything..."
I am still not sure how to respond... We had big fights, even bigger, but this was the first time that she hit me and that things became violent. I did not respond at all, just let her hit me, and for me this was nothing. But I am not sure what that will do to the her?
Does anyone have any experience in this? Does becoming violent change the dynamics? Do they remember and acknowledge that? Is there some residual shame that makes them go negative spiralling further?
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2021, 05:19:19 PM »

olafinski, it's brave of you to share here what happened. It's the right move to have "no more secrets".

I know more experienced members will be here with you, too. In the meantime, what kinds of DV resources are available in your community? Hotline/reporting phone number? I ask because it would be better to have this instance documented, and then never to need to refer to it, than to have it be the start of a pattern, and to have no record of it happening.

One such resource is www.thehotline.org

There is no discrimination "because you're a man". DV happens, sadly, to both men and women, in all kinds of relationships.

Even just letting a third party know "this thing happened last night, and I don't know if it is going to happen again or not, and I'm not sure how to respond", can be really helpful for you. It'll be a neutral person with a lot of experience helping you understand your options.

You want peace for your son; anyone would, in your shoes. Consider reaching out for some support as part of making a peaceful childhood for him.
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2021, 07:54:03 PM »

Olafinski, thanks for reaching out on this forum, it is a caring community with many that have shared experiences to yours.  Your story has many similarities to mine, and it might be interesting to you to read some of my threads to see where this could lead in the future...

In my case, the violence escalated over a 1.5 year period until my BPDw was arrested and our children were kept out of foster care only due to my getting a restraining order against her.  We had no contact for 3 months and are now back together working on improving communication for both of us.  The tools I've learned on this site have been god sent in reducing how far her anger escalates.

Happy to answer any questions, but have to cut this short because the twins just woke up from nap.

A big red flag was raised by the discussion you had with your son about mommy "switching"...  Have you and/or your son seen a therapist about how best to address those situations?  Most BPD/Narcissists or co-dependent "caretakers" share the experiences your son seems to be having...  I know that I did  and would be a much happier person had I had therapy at a young age.
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2021, 01:24:39 AM »

Thx to everyone. I have a question that is blocking my mind. I know that I need to decide on that myself but I would be grateful for some perspectives on that.
So... the BIG issue right now for me is that I am mostly concerned about our son.
He is 11 now, just started his 5th grade which where we live is a big step forward for kids since they jump from having a single teacher to having a teacher for every subject. Also, things start getting serious, no more good marks that are not earned etc.
He is a very emotional kid, and as a child had horrible tantrums, could not sleep well and life was generally a nightmare, asides off course from happy times in between. He "came to himself" somewhere during last year of kindergarten, one very special caregiver, warm and loving, made great impact on him and he became stable.
His 1st grade also started very bad cause he did not have any interest in school etc. But my wife worked really hard with him, despite his reactions and tears, and established a good working routine with him.
From the early days we established a sort of a good cop bad cop thing, me being a good cop cause for some reason he responded too drastic on me being angry, he would go to total mess in seconds. He also could never stand well agressive authority from anyone other than his mother. She managed somehow to make a good mix of love and care and authority.
But that created a situation in which I am more of a friend - father, spending a lot of time with him and playing with him (she really rarely plays with him, she is just not that type), also I was always the one taking him out alone because she works in the kindergarten as a special educations senior consultant just where we live, so when she would come out all the parents were on here neck all the time asking her this and that and she is not a really social type of person (as most BPD people to my knowledge).
Our son continued to develop into a really nice, emphatic and caring kid, also a really funny kid that makes us laugh a lot. He is really a character, different than both of us, enjoys the "stage" and likes to perform etc.
But his deep emotionality remained and he is very much linked to the perception of us as family. He still sleeps with his mother in our bed, because at first he was really afraid of the dark, and later for practical reasons (we had an earthquake and in his room there are cabinets over his bed; also I snore like an elephant and she sleeps really lightly).

OK, thats for the context, thanks for following to here. So the question / issue at hand right now.
After the earthquake which really hit her emotionally, things started getting worse with her BPD. Also, our son became more aware of his mother being "crazy". I established a way of communicating that to him without using medical terms by saying that she has a "different kind of brain" where she sometimes is "not totally in control of her emotions". But off course it takes its tall and it is not a normal situation.

So, right now things are like this:
1) He started 5th grade, really hard, has some setbacks in couple of subjects where he needs to really pull hard to catch up, so we need to work each day for couple of hours. He is OK with that and there is no problem in that respect.
2) BUT - because of the earthquake my son has to go to another school where he has morning / afternoon shifts. As my work works mornings, it means that in the afternoon shifts all schoolwork falls on my back (and she is much better in this as this is her profession and she was the one working with him), and also because he has sports 3 times a week that means that 3 times a week she does not get to see him till 8.30 PM. And that seems to fall really hard on her emotionally because he is in a way her only stronghold at the moment (she always says that the is the only good thing in her life right now).
3) She is lately bragging a lot about us needing to move away somewhere (basically she is bored and does not like this neighbourhood) which is totally killing our son because he finally got integrated into his class and really enjoys living here.
4) So, basically if I would separate / divorce from her, which she always wants during the "off" phases, there would be two choices that I see:
First, the way she wants, to let our son with her. I am really afraid of this because I feel that it might be OK for a while, since I trigger her episodes mostly, but she also sometimes lashes at him and he would not have my protection.
Also, since she works mornings, she would need to move him to another school with only morning shifts. She would also probably move to another part of town so he would loose his friends.
Second, I could ask for custody or at least shared custody week-by-week, but I think she would oppose that (or at least that is what she says when she is "there") and then I would have to play the BPD card (she is undiagnosed and the option of going to therapy is totally off, she "does not believe in therapy") and that would totally destroy our relationship which would be really hard on our son, especially in this pre-adolescent phase.
This is why I am trying to hold on to our marriage as long as possible, at least until our son is old and strong enough to get through it without unrepairable damage. I also fear that he might have BPD trait (her aunt committed suicide) and that his might be a trigger, and we recently had a friend whose son hanged himself at the age of 13, two years after their divorce, and the idea of that is powerful enough for me to endure really anything.

So it is a sort of a dead-lock. If we divorce, our son will be shattered, I think. Especially if she gets him. Also, though I earn most of our money, I don't have a steady job and in our country there is a strong preference in giving children to mothers post-divorce.
If we stay married, and nothing changes, there is a risk of escalation and again situations that would be really bad for our son's mental health.

She is right now I think in the "I am divorcing you phase". Yesterday she hit me 4 times (lightly) on the head for the first time and today morning she did not speak to me, and now she asked if our car is free after her works cause she needs to go somewhere...

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