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How to communicate after a contentious divorce... Following a contentious divorce and custody battle, there are often high emotion and tensions between the parents. Research shows that constant and chronic conflict between the parents negatively impacts the children. The children sense their parents anxiety in their voice, their body language and their parents behavior. Here are some suggestions from Dean Stacer on how to avoid conflict.
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Author Topic: Terrible Bosses or Core Wounds?  (Read 618 times)
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« on: January 08, 2013, 11:15:54 AM »

It came to me recently that my issues with what I felt were terrible bosses in the past were really exacerbated by MY core issues of being "not good enough" or invisible. Not being recognized.

I had spent hours of my work time in the past trying to please the un-pleasable. Working and re-working projects for those who were literally never going to be happy even when our superiors had no complaints about my work.

When I would ask for meetings with a Director present and ask very directly for feedback... .  I would get vague, non-direct replies.  Little valid criticisms, no real directives. "Just keep doing what you are doing" was what usually came out.

There were only a couple of terrible bosses over the years but they drove me crazy(correction-I made myself crazy) trying to figure out what they wanted.

I wonder how much of my angst from this was due to MY core wound of Invisibility and dependence?  Most likely 99.9%.

I literally lost sleep due to unhelpful bosses, but never ONCE had a performance issue or a write up. I realize now that I gave them way too much space in my own head.

But It killed me (at that time) inside to have my work "stolen" and claimed by another peer, or to not be recognized for my contributions.

Core Wound activated- At work?

Anyone else have these issues at work?  I never want this to happen again, hence the self examination.

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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2013, 12:40:29 PM »

I had a boss once who actually had one of those 'Time to Lean, Time to Clean' posters on the wall. At the time, it was seen as a way for a bad boss to just keep us busy and on our toes. I was thinking recently how that's also a good reminder coming through a BPD (or any) relationship. 'Leaning' could be coasting, coming to a crossroads. 'Cleaning' being taking personal inventory, working on our issues, getting healthy and organized inside. Be our own good boss.
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2013, 09:07:18 AM »

Gina Louise:

I saw your post yesterday and was on my way out so I couldn't post. Unfortunately after breaking up with my BPDxh I had a series of BPD bosses. Then I had a boss where I finally took refuge who reminds me of the one you are posting about - someone very "hands off". I languished! I need much more reinforcement than he provides. I learned about that from studying Highly Sensitive Personailty Trait and then accepting that reality about myself rather than what I had been doing which was beating myself up for needing more support.

I can't change my boss but I can take some actions to try and get the feedback I need to be more productive. The big thing I did was go to our Employee Assistance Program and I learned about the thinking feeling cycle. My therapist there helped me to uncover my thought/feeling pattern so I could do a better job of managing the emotions that were resulting from different tasks I needed to do. Ordinarily I would need someone to tell me each step of the way that I'm on the right track or I'd have an anxiety attack. And I was embarassed to need so much support so I wouldn't seek it. And then I just wouldn't do the tasks - I would procrastinate and the anxiety would build. He helped mue uncover my fears, begin to process them rationally and it has allowed me to move forward with work, without having my boss change his behavior. Hope that helps. Tea
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2013, 02:51:52 PM »

Hi Gina,

I have enjoyed reading your posts and your positive outlook. I'm realizing that I've always chosen low-paying jobs where I could have had a higher position, but consistently lack the ability to move up. I have blamed the system, the boss, my uBPDh, but now I'm left with my own core wounds and trying to evaluate whether I could realistically make a leap for once or try for more of a sure thing with higher pay at least. I just realized I don't have to be a servant! And bosses just don't care about me that much, though I would like them to. I hope to make positive changes soon. Thanks for bringing this up. Work is a big part of life, and I agree that our choices reflect patterns in our younger lives.
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2013, 03:04:36 PM »

Go Fish,

thanks very much. I consider my positive outlook to be a saving grace. especially when dealing with difficult people.

Some bosses do care, and I was one who wanted/helped ambitious people to move up the ladder and do well. Many became my peers.

I was a middle level manager so not only was I bossed, but I was a boss as well. Since I considered myself a decent, kind and fair boss I wondered why I had difficulties with MY own bosses,( a couple of them over the years and the SAME issues... .  Red flag/bad  (click to insert in post))

I realized that my own "terrible bosses" had traits in common with each other and my Parents. Aaaaaacccck! Pbbbbbfffft!

WHO needs that at work?

Looking it from a FOO position helped me see that I was seeking some sort of Larger approval, that I felt was lacking in my past-that may or may not have been forthcoming. It wasn't about work at all. It was about me feeling "worthy".

Hopefully next time it won't happen again. I will be able to feel my angst rising-and be able to deal more effectively with it.

And not need a "work-Mommy" to tell me I am OK. 

GL
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2013, 05:06:41 PM »

Hi Gina,

have been dealing with this issue for my partner of late. Not just bad bosses but the extreme, sexually harassed and assaulted along with being vilified and victimized.

We all have stories about bosses who are complete and total (Bullet: comment directed to __ (click to insert in post)$_(. Having at some stages had a lot of staff in the hundreds under me, it is hard to be a boss and requires one to take the odd knock no matter how well you try and do your job. Its a fact of life and some staff will never be pleased whatever the outcome. Other side of the coin, I never wanted to be the boss but got there by being kind and fair and just doing my job very well. I did not build a political base or tread on heads to get there. I just did my job which had a direct and visible outcome so one could see who was doing it well.

Sadly when I got there I found to stay there actually involved doing things I was not happy with to others below me. It was part and parcel of being the boss in this organization. I eventually when told I would get my bonus but all my staff wouldn't and they had worked hard for it , I just quit. I walked at that point in time. Other reasons but I took a stand and not expecting them to change it was not a threat I just went I cannot and will not do this.

As to bosses and types, they range from the bullies to the inept to the very good ones who encourage and praise their staff for a job well done. All ranges between those posts. Some abuse and terrorize and bully staff under them to get their objectives. Staff react in various ways to this sort of boss but the better bosses encourage and nurture their staff and praise them when it deserved. Some do variations on this. The best outcomes  usually are from the pones who praise and nurture staff under them. Listen to them and explain without BS and support their ideas or if they don't work again without blame discuss the outcome whilst being positive.

Sadly many bosses fall into the bully or abusive regions. Some can and are made out to be there by staff. Put the managers shoes on for a day and see things from his perspective and ASK him or her what she wants or needs. Let them know not in a brown nosed way you will support hims or her and what you can do to achieve these goals. managers have to be separated from staff and they have to make at times decisions which make little or no sense if not explained to staff. They want to be accepted and your friend or on friendly terms.

Others and I suspect the majority fall into the not so good area. some stumble with the role and have no idea. if you ask them what exactly you can do to improve things it may steer them in the correct direction.

As for last type, bullies, ultra critical to the verge and beyond abuse. Not much hope for them. If your learning a trade or a craft, and there for this goal, learn it and use their expertise and accept it for what it is, training. If there is no chance to improve your position, and your fully trained and in this situation might be time to look for another job. I know I once had a boss in this category. He was a boys boy, not what I was, he was everyone's mate, sadly not mine. We had a meeting scheduled for 9 am and he didn't turn up till 11.30 am. I had another booked then and time and time again this happened. Eventually knowing it would never change I found another job.

Hope some of this helps. If your boss is a bully or highly critical going above them to complain does not really work, even if the boss is ejected you will be viewed as the whistle blower. Better just to leave. If your boss doesn't respond to asking how you can help or is just a (Bullet: comment directed to __ (click to insert in post)*Bullet: comment directed to __ (click to insert in post)$. Leave ... .  if your a good and dedicated person someone ELSE will appreciate

Take care   
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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2013, 05:25:22 AM »

I left out the ineresting part in my earlier post. So the feeling-thinking cycle went something like this for me: 1) I'd have a task. I'd try to do it and I'd go into anxiety attack. I learned to avoid. I 'never' did much unless forcing myself and I'd be really miserable in the process.

2) I couldn't I'd my thoughts (as you are supposed to in the feeling-thought cycle process) so I instead looked for answers in my subconscious. 'What am I afraid of?' I dreamed that night I was swimming and the water was murky - I couldn't see a thing. It became crystal clear and sharks were charging me. I now see my fear is 'fear of death/annialiation'.

3) With knowledge of fear in hand I can now address my fears with my thinking mind: 'my boss won't kill me/ I'm not going to die' and my anxiety falls away.

There's much more but it is hard to type on this Blackberry and I don't have an internet connection at the moment.
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