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Author Topic: uBPDw says another child will prove my love for her  (Read 573 times)
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« on: January 07, 2016, 09:44:49 AM »

 

Okay, things have been normal(i.e projecting, dysregulating,etc) lately with my UBPDw. Christmas was held to minimum drama.

She is utterly convinced that having another baby will help her control herself and clean up her life. I AM TERRIFIED! Laugh out loud (click to insert in post). I wouldn't mind another(although I'm 43), but to have one with someone that is already stressed over the simplest things, just isn't logical(I'm a fact, reason and logic person). However, due to my love for her, I agreed and we had been trying against my better judgement. Along the way,  due to the frequent cycling of her illness, I decided to sabotage the attempts by using supplements. I  FEEL HORRIBLE!

NOw, last weekend her great grandmother died. She comes to me and says "you know, I am sad for a second, but I just wasn't that close to her!" Something to that affect. I comforted  and watched her to see how she was doing. Wine and activities and she was fine.

I am planning to open a gym , so I told her I had a meeting about some equipment. SHe was fine with it, so I left to do that. Everything is good.

When I got back that night, I told her that I had planned to meet a friend( a 66 yo psychiatrist that helps me immensely)  I rarely get to see. She didn't say much. The next day, I reiterated my intentions. She wanted to get the camera in my sons room and his new bed assembled(transitioning from crib to bed).  Anyhow, I spent 3 hours working on the camera and never got to the bed, as it was time for me to leave. I told he I would be gone for an hour and I would come back and we would have a great family evening.

reminder for some of you... .YOU NEED YOUR TIME AWAY FROM THESE PEOPLE! THEY ARE HABITUALLY NEGATIVE AND FAULT FINDING!

So, she is PISSED now. she starts in on me with yelling, etc. I walk out of the house to get away. I walk back in and say "babe, I will cancel... .it's not a big deal." She says "I'm done with it . I don't want to put the bed together. I don't want you. I hate you!   

I left to meet up with my friends. ONce there,  I am scrolling though FB and notice she had deleted me, blocked me, took our pic from profile and posted a pic of her putting the bed together. Her caption was clearly pointing out the fact  I wasn't there and she didn't need me. IF you have a SO with BPD, you know this is things they do to devalue us. I cannot understand the immaturity!

Here's where I lost it. I posted on the pic "this post is deceiving!"

I got back to our house, she had drank the entire HUGE bottle of wine and was passed out. I went to bed on the couch to avoid her nasty attitude. about 3:30 in the morning, when I was sound asleep, I wake up to a sensation. She threw her entire glass of ice water at me, hitting me in the chest. I was reclined in the recliner. She threw it has hard as she could!  IT was all out war! she spewed venom for an hour !

THe next morning, I was up trying to get her to go to church with my son and I. We talked, prayed, cried and it was over. We moved on and had a very good and productive day. ITS was a bliss!

That night, I mentioned that we would NOT be trying for a baby until she makes the appointment with the counselor that I sent her the number to.  We need help and it's not wise to have a baby in the current situation. She claims that a baby will help her get her life straight? you agree?

She lost her mind and has vehemently expressed wanting a divorce. She is so detached now. I can see her pain and try to tell her daily that I love her.  She will not even act like I am alive. She says she want's a divorce ( every other day), but this time her rings are still on.

WHat do you think? Am I going about the child thing right?
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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2016, 10:17:18 AM »

  How many kids do you have?  What ages?  What is her age?  I've got 8 kids, so I'm obviously "pro kid".  I would be wary of having a kid "for a purpose".  It is likely that we are done having kids (age and life circumstance).  It was about time for my wife to be in the baby having mood, and she was in the mood.  We got a small dog instead.  That way she can carry about something that feels like a baby, can love on it and all that.  It really seems to have worked.    Looking forward to discussing this more with you.  

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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2016, 03:41:24 PM »

This sounds like a very difficult situation. As to the question: Am I going about the child thing right?

Ideally, parents have children and strive to meet the child's needs. Parents with PD's expect children to meet their needs. However, the child isn't born into this world to meet the parents' needs. He/she is their own individual with their own minds, goals and aspirations. Once the child begins to assert his/her own independence this can cause issues with a PD parent who sees the child as an extension of themselves, not a separate person.

Bringing a child into the world to prove your love for you doesn't consider the needs of the child.

Conceiving a child with a mother who drinks a whole bottle of wine at a time isn't good for the unborn child ( and not good for the child later to have a drunk mother)

and to this "I decided to sabotage the attempts by using supplements" - I don't know what supplements you are talking about but I am fairly certain that any supplement that would alter your hormones or physical baby making function to the point where you can't make a baby is not approved on the market. Even some that can have a small effect on testosterone will not stop you from making all of those little swimmers. So, unless you are using a standard method of birth control, you are still risking a pregnancy. I'm sure you know this, but I wanted to clarify this.

Whether or not to make a baby with her is up to the two of you, but I hope you will consider the health of that child if she is drinking.
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2016, 10:53:56 AM »

Seems like everyone has been pretty nuanced in their responses, so I'll weigh in with my perspective a little bit differently:  DO NOT HAVE ANY MORE CHILDREN WITH THIS WOMAN!  Smiling (click to insert in post)

Her actions have shown you the kind of person she is.  Good moms don't do the things that she does, and to me, it borders on child abuse to knowingly bring a child into that kind of situation.

I got a vasectomy at age 33, which was three years before I found out about BPD as the explanation for my wife's behaviors.  All I knew at the time was that my wife did not enjoy the 2 children we had together and that the kids were (still are, but things have improved) in danger of being permanently damaged by the environment my wife was creating in our household.  I have never considered reversing that vasectomy even for one second, and I consistently advise people to avoid having kids with a known BPD - it won't actually help the person with BPD, and it's not fair to the child.
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2016, 11:44:05 AM »

Hi jax this is a link is to your intro posts

https://bpdfamily.com/message_board/index.php?action=profile;u=73508;sa=showPosts;start=40

If you were reading this for the first time as though you were reading someone else's introductory posts on the forum what would your thoughts be now ?

If that same person then went on to post that they were considering bringing another baby into this situation what would your response to them be ?





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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2016, 12:12:25 PM »

I can definitely relate to this situation. Originally, I had ideally planned to have two kids with my wife. As our relationship has progressed, I'm adamantly against this now. We have a 4 1/2 year old son now. My wife IS a good mom. However, she is very neurotic about many things in regards to her parenting. I won't go into all the details about that because it would take too long.

I'll just say that as our relationship has progressed and I've grown to have less patience for her crazy behavior and as I've seen how much of a stress ball she already is with just one kid, I can't imagine having another one with her. I also don't know what our future holds and I don't want to be stuck paying child support for two kids. It's something that realistically has to be considered.

My wife is really wanting to have another kid again right now, despite our issues. She has blatantly told me that if I won't give her another one, she'll go and find somebody who will. I replied "So, I'm basically a sperm donor?". She said "yes". Part of me would like to have another kid, but I don't think it's a smart decision.

Flexion, I highly advise against having another baby with this woman!
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