Mike 82
It became a very long reply….
I can relate the behaviour getting worse after daughter was born.
From what I experienced there was a big aha-moment reading similar stories and about the pathology of Cluster B related to kids.
There were Cluster B people exchange stories and experiences about having a baby and raising kids, so far I only saw self awareness that ‘they’ could show some emotional behaviour as raising a kid can be ‘exhausting’.
Babies are the perfect attachment for the mother. It is loved ‘beyond believe’ as it can be cuddled, nurtured, and does not resist any of mothers behaviour.
Making mom receiving the perfect love from their ‘love object’ (‘the best ever happened to me’).
Experienced even more. The kids were here possessions! As was clearly said more than once…
When their love object, the baby, gets older, that kid develops their own personality by exploring their surroundings.
That causes fear for pwBPD, intense fear, as their love object start to reject (as it is perceived by) that ‘unconditional love’ from mom
The push / pull is initiated by the child… fear by mom! How to deal with that?
Keeping the child on a rubber band is the only solution for pwBPD, letting go of, but still in control…
I name it ‘Control by pleasing with sweet words as they have magical power’.
Contrary to you. As mom in fact pleases, you will become the one that will have to set consistent boundaries.
So you again, a factor that with years, will be seen as more and more annoying, to harsh, having no consideration, not understanding/loving mom, hurting her feelings and don’t forget for acting weird.
Towards the kid mom can get very, very angry too ‘without reason’ (in our perception).
Now father naturally take care of the hurt kid by comforting and validating, even explaining.
Later, mom will ‘make up’ with the kid, however not excusing, not explaining but in a (manipulative way) telling and making the kid understanding that it must considerate mom too.
Mom will tell in a way that she is trying and doing her best for the kid, so it is legitimate that mom also can be disappointed… etc. And the child accepts it… adjusting its behaviour towards mom…never to make mom angry…
Consequence is that a dynamic family bond (father - mother - kid) develops, in which the kid:
#will try to be as emotional stable as possible towards mom => consider moms’ feelings and difficult task
#can’t break the rubber band with mom in order to develop as a whole emotional independent person that is entitled to a self (again, as mom wasn’t able too).
#will see you, father, as a stable factor at whom it can show disappointment, angriness, become angry at, but will be comforted by mom (sweet magic words)
#will see you the one that is loved too (of course!), relied upon and so needed for to play, do activities and teaching life.
May I say the father for all good and non emotional things in life?
#however, the kid (and mom!) will see you also as the hyper critical parent (emotionally), all reinforced by mom.
So at least by that time (and you mentioned it already) you will be seen as the ‘bad object’ by mom, the one that hurts her ‘love object’ and the one that hurts her directly.
You already failed towards your wife and even became the stand in for HER own hyper critical parent.
Projection complete…
So, when the primary caretaker (mom) shows unpredictable and inconsistent behaviour in approaching and loving/nurturing the very young child, that alone can cause later in life, an emotional ‘defect’ in the child’s (adult by then) attachment style towards others
Have a look at Dr. Edward Tronick (UMass Boston) , the Still Face Experiment
Using the "Still Face" Experiment, in which a mother denies her baby attention for a short period of time, Tronick describes how prolonged lack of attention can move an infant from good socialization, to periods of bad but repairable socialization. In "ugly" situations the child does not receive any chance to return to the good, and may become stuck
Please be prepared of what you are going to see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apzXGEbZht0Please, learn the techniques as can be found on this board!
Please read about children’s development, attachment, etc.
Book: John Bowlby Attachment theory
Book: John Bowlby Attachment and Loss SEPARATION ANXIETY AND ANGER
Material of Dr. Otto F. Kernberg
Bowen:
www.thebowencenter.org/research/David M. Allen, M.D., How Dysfunctional Families Spur Mental Disorders: A Balanced Approach to Resolve Problems and Reconcile Relationships. http//:davidmallenmd.blogspot.com