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VIDEO: "What is parental alienation?" Parental alienation is when a parent allows a child to participate or hear them degrade the other parent. This is not uncommon in divorces and the children often adjust. In severe cases, however, it can be devastating to the child. This video provides a helpful overview.
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« on: November 03, 2020, 10:25:53 AM »

Hello Eveyone,
It's been a long time since I posted on here.  For the past few months I've been getting nasty and unwarranted emails.  This emails tell me how bad of a father I am and how I am "violating" the custody order.  I am truly caught off guard and am wondering what's going on in her household that makes her feel its alright to write these emails.  Does anyone have any insight.
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2020, 12:30:24 PM »

One of my ex's favorite verbs when directed at me is "violate." There was a recent flare in the closeout that he got fired up on because I was in "violation." Actually no, but he thought so. So the drama went up, and then it went down. Totally unnecessary.

I guess they have a need to confirm their negative opinion of us periodically. I'm past that, but whatever.

My attorney got some $$$ from me on that issue, so I guess he came out well too.
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2020, 12:40:59 PM »

It doesn't have to be you that triggers your ex.  Almost anything and anyone can do it and of course you are the Whipping Boy.

So don't take it personally.  Whether you did something or not can be irrelevant.  The ex has to cycle and vent periodically and who she vents on doesn't have to make sense.  That too is an aspect of mental illness.
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2020, 09:35:15 PM »

Sometimes I can't help to blame myself for the way she rages.  When I as dating her it wasn't this bad.  One thing for sure she likes to rage via text messages and emails.   I can't help to think if she rages at her husband the way she does to me.
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2020, 07:38:09 AM »

Sometimes I can't help to blame myself for the way she rages.  When I as dating her it wasn't this bad.

It's not you personally or anything you've done.  Just you breathing could trigger her.  When you were dating her you were viewed with the eyes of idealization, not in an obligated relationship with her:
  • You were not married to her then.
  • You were not a parent with her then.
  • You were not divorcing from her then.
  • You were not the ex-spouse of her then.
  • etc.

I can't help to think if she rages at her husband the way she does to me.

Maybe they don't have kids, yet?  Maybe he doesn't trigger her that much, yet?  Maybe she has not reached the point to reject him as she did with you, yet?  Maybe neither of them are sharing with you how rocky their relationship is?

Also, it's possible that their personalities mesh in a way that doesn't force either of them to end it, yet.  It has been noted that a BPD relationship with a NPD can unhealthily feed off each other's demands and needs.
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2020, 09:19:42 AM »

Hey NYF, good to hear from you again!

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For the past few months I've been getting nasty and unwarranted emails.  This emails tell me how bad of a father I am and how I am "violating" the custody order.  I am truly caught off guard and am wondering what's going on in her household that makes her feel its alright to write these emails.

Are you still spending the same amount of time with your son as normal? I.e., is she trying to withhold him at all, or doing anything sneaky with the schedule?

Something I think about when I hear these types of stories is "misattribution of causality".

That is, my suspicion is that people with BPD-type traits aren't so dull or blind that they don't see when conflict is happening. I.e., there is a conflict, and a pwBPD can say, Yes, there is a conflict.

The issue is that they cannot rightly or accurately attribute the cause of the conflict. I feel like I've heard stories on the boards here of arguments between a couple (one with BPD), and the pwBPD is yelling, but yells at the other partner "Stop yelling at me!"

The identification "yelling is happening" is correct, but a "disability" as it were with the pwBPD is that they can't clearly identify the source. They can't "pin the tail on the donkey" at all.

So, when I hear that your son's mom is asserting "you're a bad father" and "you're violating the custody order", where my mind goes first is: maybe she's correctly identifying that SOMEONE is being a poor parent, and SOMEONE might be violating the order. It's just... not you.

This is related to the concept of projection that we talk about here, too.

Long story short, if she's not messing with your parenting time... document, save, let it roll off of you, keep learning, move on.

Thoughts? Want more discussion?

Also, how's your son doing? Did he dress up for Halloween?
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2020, 08:40:31 PM »

@kells76-Thanks for your reply, she has not directly withheld time with my son, she knows very well that I would be legally on her if she did that. (I filed a contempt petition many years ago and held her feet to the fire, the judge gave me more time)  She will always make sure my son is well distracted when I call him, technically shes letting me talk to my son however he is usually watching tv or lately "outside playing with his friends"
I've noticed that these emails occur usually when I pick up her slack.  For instance my son's hair was really long so I took him for a hair cut, I buy him new shoes.  The most recent nasty email was about holding me in contempt after my son bought his mom a pumpkin.   The emails are empty threats, she doesn't say what I am doing wrong to hold me in contempt nor does she says anything of how I can fix it the problem.  The emails are usually "I am currently speaking with my attorney's and will be holding you in contempt of court".  I never reply to these emails because she never will ask me a questions and the judge assigned to our case already ruled that if there is no question asked than either party doesn't need to respond.  Rightfully so I am not going to engage her in the threat bantering she likes to do.
Personally I think she is absolutely miserable in her marriage, happy people do need to rub it in their ex's face of how happy they are.  Just want I think so at least it makes me feel somewhat better to think that philosophy.
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2020, 04:13:04 PM »

I've noticed that these emails occur usually when I pick up her slack.  For instance my son's hair was really long so I took him for a hair cut, I buy him new shoes.  The most recent nasty email was about holding me in contempt after my son bought his mom a pumpkin.   

The FT in our case identified it as narcissistic injury - if something happens that makes mom question the story she tells herself that she is a good parent, mom lashes out.  In our case, the lashing out often results in mom refusing to see SD13 or do things for SD13.  In yours, mom threatens to keep YOU from doing whatever for S. 

When the crazy starts, I just have to keep reminding myself that we didn't do anything wrong.

I notice that you are still a bit fixated on the status of your ex's relationship with her H.  Why is that?
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