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Shelbypup4141

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« on: December 27, 2013, 07:22:23 PM »

My mom has BPD. I have two brothers and I feel like it really takes a toll of them. I am always the one they go to with issues or if they want to bad mouth my mom. I can't handle it they say terrible things even wishing her dead. It makes me sick I can't deal with this I can't even talk to my dad I'm afraid to make him upset. I love my mom and I want us to over come this but it doesn't seem like we will. Every mistake that happens my brothers say it's because they were abused. I try to be positive and be happy and they bring me down. It's so hard for me to ignore how they feel I wanna help I wanna fix things. This isn't fair I have no friends who I feel comfortable speaking with I'm embarased. How can things get better if they won't see. Therapist and are so stubborn. I need help I feel like I'm going crazy I can't enjoy myself I can't even get out of bed some days. It's not fair I'm slowly wasting away
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2013, 08:10:01 PM »

Hi Shelbypup4141!

It can be so hard dealing with this and multiple family members with their own issues with the BPD make things harder too. I completely understand, as my MIL is an uBPD.

It can get very frustrating to not have someone to talk to about it. It has been hard for me to discuss with a few close friends, as they just don't understand having someone so volatile and difficult as a parent. They have no concept of the mental illness in their own lives and find it hard to listen, much less give advice. I found a therapist who has greatly helped me in the past (and I am now again seeing her). She specializes in family problems AND in personality disorders (I'd suggest finding one who does specialize in PDs, as I had a bad experience with a previous counsellor) and her advice and guidance has been worth more than gold! Are you seeing a therapist or a counsellor? It might help to take the burden you're feeling off your shoulders some and help you process everything. Smiling (click to insert in post)

For a long time I tried to help fix things. I tried to make things better, I tried to get her to go see a therapist with me (once and it was AWFUL!) It took me a long time to come to grips with who my MIL was and who she wanted to be. I can't change her, I can't make her see things, I can only work on me and how I respond to what's happening. It wasn't my place to fix things. It is my MIL's.

My husband won't even discuss his mom with his sister - unless it's constructive (which it rarely is). He has told her he doesn't want to discuss it. It has been difficult for him to draw that boundary, but as painful as it's been, it has been worth it.

Have you asked your brothers to stop bringing you into it? Have you let them know how much it brings you down?
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Shelbypup4141

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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2013, 08:47:20 PM »

I feel you all I want to do is fix things and it is very hard that none of my

Close friends can understand what I go through. I do see therapist she does help to a certain extent I do realize I can't change things and I need to focus on myself this issue is I don't know how no put it into action. This guilt is unbearable I don't thinks it's fair I'm enjoying myself when my family is struggling. I have told my brothers I can't stand to listen to it and they get so upset and say I am messed up and I am normalizing this issue with my mom. I want to be positive it's so difficult. I'm currently a college student so I have so much to deal with already but I don't want to ignore my family's issues again with the guilt. Do you ever feel guilty like this? I feel like it will never go away. It is reassuring that people like you understand what I'm going through and we can relate I am really hoping joining this group will be a good out for me. 

How are things for you now? My therapist does mention to how setting boundaries are important but like you said it's painful. It's almost like deep down I know what's right but I can't follow through what gives you the strength to set these boundaries?
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2013, 09:37:35 PM »

It's especially hard when we have a lot on our plate... .like college! I'm so glad you're seeing a therapist.

I have felt guilty and so has my husband. Right now we are VLC with his sister and parents. I think the guilt is there because on some level, there were good times, happy moments, etc. But then the monster came out. My hubby occasionally feels guilty because he hates to do this to her, to cut off communication and hold the boundary that she HAS to be willing to work with us in the relationship (it's her dysfunctional way or the highway). She is more interested in being right and having us apologize (for the lack of contact) than having a healthy relationship with her son. And hey, that's her choice.

The guilt gets better. One thing that has helped me is recognizing the difference between guilt and false guilt. Coincidentally, most of what comes our way is false guilt. It's easier now since we've been dealing with it in healthier ways to let it roll off. It takes time. Smiling (click to insert in post)

This sounds funny, but you just get to a point where enough is enough. You sound like you're pretty close to it. My hubby got there when his sister was being triangulated by their mother and she called him a liar. Then he drew the line. I hit the point earlier where I could no longer sacrifice my integrity or mental and emotional health. I almost immediately drew several boundaries and would not give. It's simple for us because with the LC, we've now had the opportunity to have peace - to focus, like you're trying to do, on being happy, on having a real life! If anything gets in the way of our happiness, if we're feeling upset and angry, then we know something isn't right. Something needs to change and that's when we adjust our boundaries.

When we're happy and others feel we're too happy for what's 'really going on' in the family our long response is this: "I have made the choice to focus on what I CAN do and what I CAN change. I am choosing to be happy. I am choosing to enjoy my life by being positive. This does not mean I disregard the pain and issues. It simply means I will not allow the problem to swallow me whole and I recognize the solution needs to start with her. When she gets to that point, I will be more than happy to help in whatever healthy ways I can."

Boundaries are exhausting. It's terribly hard to hold the line and not give in. The only reminder for me is that without my boundaries, I'd be a mess. The last thing I want is for it to go back to the way it was. Consider it like training someone... .a few times and then they catch on. Then they realize it's not worth the effort in bringing it to you. They find other outlets and avenues for their frustration and venting.

It's a lot easier for me to be as assertive as I can, to be short and sweet and not allow myself to be baited into an argument. I grew up in a very passive/passive aggressive home and it took a little work to be assertive. "I'm feeling like my boundaries aren't being respected and I need to hang up now. Maybe we can try talking again when you're ready." "I am feeling really attacked right now. I need to remove myself from this conversation so I can think about how I feel." "Shelbypup4141, you're sweeping it all under the rug!" and response - "I'm sorry you feel that way."

There's a book by Susan Forward and Donna Frazier called Emotional Blackmail. I read it right after my hubs and I got married and it was immensely helpful in creating boundaries. If you have the time to read it, do so! It's great for helping those of us who struggle with boundaries to build those skills up in healthy, non-offensive ways. I still keep it around for a resource!

I'm glad you joined the board! It's been really helpful to me too. It's nice to know that we're not alone in all of this!

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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2013, 12:52:02 AM »

I can't tell you how many times I've read your reply over and over. You response to others about being happy for "what really going on" is so powerful. I WANT to feel that way I WANT the strength to be able to say that and beleive it myself. I admire the strength you have and I so badly wish I had it too. I would do anything I could to get to that place as quick as possible. I am trying so hard . I've been reading other people's stories here all well and the reassurance that other people are saying how the feel and it's literally word for word how I feel. As much as I wouldn't want anyone to go through what I am like you said it feels good to not be alone. I have had a tough holiday and finding this group really was the best thing. Sometimes I get to worries about my brothers to focus on myself and it sets me back. Knowing people have gotten through this struggle with a family meme bed with BPD does

Give me some hope. I wish I could wake up tommrrow and have no problems! If

Only it was that easy
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2013, 07:14:02 AM »

That does sound like a tough position to be in, Shelbypup. It's good that you're focusing on what you can change, as opposed to what you can't. Up In the Air has made some other excellent points too: working with a therapist who really focuses on PDs can give you some additional tools.

You're right, though: you're absolutely not alone.

I can't tell you how many times I've read your reply over and over. You response to others about being happy for "what really going on" is so powerful. I WANT to feel that way I WANT the strength to be able to say that and beleive it myself. I admire the strength you have and I so badly wish I had it too. I would do anything I could to get to that place as quick as possible. I am trying so hard .

I know that feeling too. When I came here a few years ago, I didn't believe that I was strong enough to accept that my mother has BPD. Do you see the Survivor's Guide on the right of this page? ---> It didn't make a lot of sense to me then, but now it does--this is the path to healing. It takes some real work, but you can be happy and feel powerful.

One thing that has really struck me, and may be very powerful for you too is Radical Acceptance. Radical Acceptance for family members It helps to keep in mind what you can and can't change.

How are you doing today? What can you do to feel more comfortable the next time your brothers start to complain to you? Would they be open to getting some counseling themselves?
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2013, 05:26:47 PM »

Yep, we all come here for support, advice, and I think all of us at one point or another just didn't know how things were going to work out. We're not sure if we're strong enough, brave enough, whatever it is that we need to feel like we're in better control.

It takes time to stand up to people, to find the words that work best for us, to put our foot down. I read my response again and I hope I didn't make it sound too much like it was super easy because it definitely wasn't! It may sound a little strange, but I'm really grateful my MIL bullied me terribly (so terribly I had to go on anxiety/depression meds). Had she not kept at it, I would have neversought therapy, I would have stayed a passive and unhappy. Slowly, I realized what I needed to do to change that.

We all have days when we get knocked back or triggered by something with the BPD. Just today we received my in-laws Christmas card in the mail and my MIL's annual holiday letter was so off. It triggered me a little, but I know that in a few days I'll have my feelings sorted out. The more room you give yourself to learn and grow with this whole BPD 'thing', with the process of healing and boundaries and all of that, the better you will feel. You'll get there. You'll heal. You ARE strong enough.
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