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« on: November 18, 2016, 06:19:10 AM »

Want to keep this short without trying to type my life's story.

My wife has BPD, she's high-functioning and has been in therapy for about five months doing DBT work.

We've been separated on and off during the last year. During the last year she started and ended an online relationship with another man--she saw him and slept with him once. She is still in love with him from what I can tell, or definitely not "over" the relationship. She says she loves me sometimes, although when she is overwhelmed she'll say my love for her is unrequited.

We are in couples therapy, I am in individual therapy. Things are in some sense much better. She used to be verbally abusive. We have two children (7 and 9), she treats them well. We all live together right now.

My wife and I are able to talk and are very close, but she'll alternately be very withdrawn and I do not deal well with these periods. The relationship is taking up far too much of my energy. I have to find some way to escape the ups and downs. I'm not in a position economically to move out right now. I am finishing a course of study that I should be able to complete by the end of the year, after which I should be able to get a job that would allow us to live separately.

The uncertainty and the ups and downs are killing me. Everyone tells me I'm a great man and father. I am the primary parent of my two children and I spend a lot of time taking care of them. I'm blessed with intelligence and am attractive. I meet and talk to women easily.

I don't know what is wrong with me. I don't understand why her not loving me the way I'd like hurts so much. I don't know why I can't let go and be more detached from her favor and disfavor. I can't function well with the ups and downs. When I'm "even" I get a ton of work done, but when something happens I'm very unproductive for days and sometimes weeks. I hate myself for being so fragile.
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2016, 02:10:35 PM »

I struggle with the ups and downs. It affects my work at times. Thankfully I am divorced so my kids go to their moms every other weekend, so I can get some down time and do something I enjoy.

What works for me is to go hunting, or ride my ATV, or shooting, or something where i get outside and get away.

I wish I had an easy answer.
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2016, 03:02:08 PM »

Hi c_craig_k,

Welcome

I'd like to join  Bullet: contents of text or email (click to insert in post) Lockjaw and welcome you. I agree, I had a very difficult time with the emotional roller coaster, the push / pull behavior from a pwBPD can feel like crazy making behavior.

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The relationship is taking up far too much of my energy. I have to find some way to escape the ups and downs. I'm not in a position economically to move out right now.

Self care will help alleviate stress and it doesn't have to be expensive. I enjoy going to the gym and work out to empty my thoughts and to reduce stress, I've always had a difficult time with sleep and it helps with sleep too.

What do you like to do for self care?
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2016, 08:13:49 AM »

Thank you for the replies. It is interesting to look at my original post after a few weeks. I did some reading suggested by this website and I started to go to some al-Anon meetings for support--I live an a rural area and there aren't any more specific support meetings. Though the people in the group are almost all dealing with loved ones who have addictive behaviors, I find I can relate to their stories. I'm pretty much the only guy in the meetings, I wish there were men my age that I could talk to, but oh well.

To the two responders--I do some powerlifting type training regularly and it is a great help. That and the meetings are my self-care for now, I guess.

Re-reading my post, this part struck me:
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I don't know what is wrong with me. I don't understand why her not loving me the way I'd like hurts so much. I don't know why I can't let go and be more detached from her favor and disfavor. [ ... .] I hate myself for being so fragile.

I've zeroed in on this as the most important work for me. The above is why I persisted in a relationship in which I was regularly abused. I'm not abused anymore, but the above is still a great source of misery.

My wife has continued therapy and the changes in her have been significant. I'm proud of her. I've continued individual and couples therapy. I spent a lot of time (years) obsessing over her behavior and a lot of time in pain that she didn't want me the way she used to. I've never really talked about this with anyone. Not friends or my therapist even. This touches on stuff that goes way, way back to my childhood. Stuff with my family and early childhood. Stuff that no romantic partner is ever going to fix. I've tried to fix it by binging on women when my wife and I were separated. Didn't work.

The reading I've done on BPD and codependency has helped me separate out my wife's stuff and mine, and realize what I can control and what I need to focus on to be whole. I've been able to state more directly what help I need with the children and house, and to take some time and space back for myself. I've been able to talk to her without shifting responsibility for my emotional well-being onto her actions. This has significantly improved things. In general I'm trying to learn to back the f off and get my work and money in order so that I have the ability to leave at any time if I decide to do so in the future. I think today if I made the decision to leave I would definitely be able to do so without hard feelings, which is an improvement.

To whatever extent I've been able to detach and not react, it has helped her to look at her own actions. Previously there was a pattern of BPD-behavior->my reaction->her reaction to my reaction. When I react as little as possible, she's just left with her behavior, and she's had a couple of seeming breakthroughs recently that I don't think she'd have had if I had forcefully "shared" my opinion of some things she was doing. I've gotten some apologies that I honestly didn't know that I'd ever receive, and a retraction of a deeply hurtful rape allegation (that she had only made privately to me and her sister) that I was hoping to maybe address in therapy at some point.

tldr;  Some real progress has been made. Starting to feel like my wife is actually my friend for the first time I can remember. Still in the depths of my heart feel like I'm fatally defective and have work to do. Still feel like hope is a poison and am wary.
 
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2016, 09:23:05 AM »

Still feel like hope is a poison and am wary.

hi c_craig_k

i want to say Welcome and to commend you for all the hard work youve done, and progress you have made. it may be challenging sometimes to see the bigger picture, but reading your story its evident to me. it sounds to me like good reason for hope.

having said that, therapy can be a real roller coaster. its important to know that, and to have reasonable, realistic expectations. that does not negate hope.

keep reading (especially the lessons directly to the right and posting, it helps to talk, and there are plenty of dudes around here who can relate to what youre going through  Being cool (click to insert in post)
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2016, 06:38:56 PM »

Wow, reading your post made me really identify with your situation. I have said for years now that I can't deal with the ups and downs. I cannot deal with the roller coaster I've been on for years with my BPD husband.

I'm reading a book called stop the Caretaking of BPD person (something to that effect, the book is at the top of this site page) and it's really helping me a lot. I'd recommend it if you are interested. It's main focus is about us as caretakers and our role in the dysfunction and how important it is to take care of ourselves and not feel bad for it.

Good luck and know you're not alone.
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2016, 02:10:32 AM »

Hello c_craig_I - I totally agree with your way forward. My partner is BPD, we have your children, he can make life very testing. I've decided to step right back, step off the rollercoaster and look inward, look to me. I can't fix him, I've realised that, but I can look at the parts of me that have allowed this to go on for so long. Good luck to you.
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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2016, 02:51:48 AM »

Lots of help on this site, especially the lessons. ( see column on the right of this page.) Also, I would recommend the twelve step programs CODA and Alanon. They teach great coping skill and they also offer support. Theo
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