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VIDEO: "What is parental alienation?" Parental alienation is when a parent allows a child to participate or hear them degrade the other parent. This is not uncommon in divorces and the children often adjust. In severe cases, however, it can be devastating to the child. This video provides a helpful overview.
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« Reply #60 on: April 15, 2016, 10:15:27 AM »

If this is a covert "friendzone" attempt... .

I'm not going to say impossible, but being "friends" with your BPDex isn't likely to work, and if it does, it will be because you have incredible boundary skills to back it up.

I've seen a reasonable number of people try it here, and cannot think of one case where the push/pull dynamic went away. Assuming the "friendship" lasts long enough to go through a few cycles, it is going to happen. You will be pulled toward intimacy (at least emotionally) beyond what normal friends have if things go well. You will be painted black and ignored/shut out.

Most who tried it ended up badly hurt again... .likely because they bought into the idea that somehow something would be different this time. I can think of one who really accepted it, and even found that if they let their pwBPD run away to nurse his wounds without chasing/blowing up/etc., he would come back sooner and with less stress than what they had done before, and (last I recall) had a rather odd non-traditional friendship that they both valued.

You aren't in a place where that is safe for you today. You may never even want it; I'm not going to guess on that.
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« Reply #61 on: April 15, 2016, 11:32:39 AM »

 Friend zone ? The difference between a lab rat and human, is the lab rat won't return to the same tunnel in his maze, after he finds no nourishment there. We humans are the ONLY organisms that keep returning for more of the same consistently painful outcomes. Slow learners.
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« Reply #62 on: April 15, 2016, 11:52:27 AM »

I'm not going to say impossible, but being "friends" with your BPDex isn't likely to work, and if it does, it will be because you have incredible boundary skills to back it up.

I've seen a reasonable number of people try it here, and cannot think of one case where the push/pull dynamic went away. Assuming the "friendship" lasts long enough to go through a few cycles, it is going to happen. You will be pulled toward intimacy (at least emotionally) beyond what normal friends have if things go well. You will be painted black and ignored/shut out.

Yes, I see this potential.   I  have confidence that I can enforce boundaries where needed.  I do know she can be a great friend but given the circumstances I fear I would just be used when she needs something from me.  I would be her "friend", it wouldn't be mutual in the sense she could be a friend to me.  The fact she has shown no concern for my feelings post trash bin or offered an apology (sincere or not) does not inspire confidence in me that she can be my friend.  

My personal fear is while I really do miss the friendship I might find it difficult to keep my own emotions where they would need to be, assuming I can get past all these painful emotions that surround the very thought of her right now.  I cannot escape the fact that I do love her in spite of everything and probably always will.  That doesn't mean I can overlook what she has done though, but eventually it will all fade to the background and hopefully with that fading will come indifference.

You aren't in a place where that is safe for you today. You may never even want it

These are both true and I still feel quite conflicted.  Until I can resolve the conflict there will be no reply.
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« Reply #63 on: April 15, 2016, 12:56:37 PM »

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