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« on: June 24, 2016, 01:23:01 PM »

After sleeping upstairs with my 6month old daughter because the noise her stuffy nose made was driving my BPDh crazy, i came downstairs.  My morning started like this. We were out of milk this morning (we actually have milk, but it is the kind that is shelf stable from the food bank) yes we don't have the milk he wants.  Therefore... .I am an unaffectionate wife that never has sex and it is my fault he has to use porn.  Everyone he talks too said "that's not a marriage".  And yeah he is being an ass right now, but I am a b___.

I didn't say anything.  What's the point of saying anything, it would just make it worse and make his tantrum  take longer.

Ahh Verbal abuse, what a great way to start the morning (and workday).
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2016, 06:04:56 PM »

 Therefore... .I am an unaffectionate wife that never has sex and it is my fault he has to use porn.  Everyone he talks too said "that's not a marriage".  And yeah he is being an ass right now, but I am a b___.

I didn't say anything.  What's the point of saying anything, it would just make it worse and make his tantrum  take longer.


To validate a raw emotion, and hopefully help him feel heard... .and step it down a notch.

"Wow... .you are really mad at me... ."

Unfortunately, you'll have to let the bad behavior slide... .

   

Hang in there... .sucks to have to deal with stuff like this. 

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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2016, 07:31:14 AM »

Thanks for the reply and advice.  I will try to say something along those lines next time.

I had pretty much given up on anything working.  It has gotten to the point that I just take it or walk away or hide.

Yesterday I also reread some of info on defusing conflict.  Maybe I will try again.

I am just so exhausted.  I have 6 kids to take care of and I work and do most everything for the household.  I get frequent migraines and I have constant joint pain (I think I have arthritis) and anxiety.  But the crazy thing is I can handle all that.  But handling him, I dread.  The kids almost cheer when he isn't here. 

My S9 is autistic and my BPDh seems to like to get him going.  My S9 might start to get frustrated and BPDh will just pick at him, sending him in to a full blown breakdown.  S9 will stomp upstairs and start kicking the wall repeatedly.   Then BPDh will start yelling at him that "he better cut that sh*t, and needs his a$$ beat".   Thankfully he has never tried to hit him.

I have tried to explain that you have to deal kids with Autism in a specific way and if he isn't going to follow that then to let me do it.  He replys with, i am babying him, favoring him, one good a$$ beating and this will all stop.

He has never hit me or the kids but he loves to threaten.

Then I was talking to a friend that the kids really love.  She said that when my D4 said "I love you" to her, my BPDh was like "what am I, chopped liver?" and forced my D4 to face him and tell him she loved him.

That is messed up.  He is also obessed with teaching our baby to say "dada".  He'll say it to her over, over and over.  Like if she said it first then he would be her favorite, and he wins.  Yet other than that he doesn't do a whole lot with the baby or the other kids, except yell at them.  He has about a 15min to 45min kid tolerance.  I schedule babysitting even if he is home.

It would be so much calmer and much more of a positive environment if he wasn't here.  But then I have to worry about if he got visitation.  I don't want my kids alone with him.  He gets angry so quick and if I'm not there to intervene something bad might happen.  I feel really trapped.

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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2016, 10:02:34 PM »

"Feeling trapped". It is tough! I'm in the same boat - worried about what my kids will have to endure if we split up. Perhaps it's better if I am there to try to smooth things over.

Just so long as you have a way to cope. You need stuff for YOU. Do you have friends who can visit (just to keep you sane). Hobbies? Work? Exercise helps too - any movement will improve your general health - and if you can do it WITH the kids then that's even better.

Modelling how to "deal with" your husband may be a good thing to do in the long run. It will be hard work, but teaching them how to validate and how to separate what he says from "reality" will give them more control and understanding. Are you able to talke to the older ones about BPD (in a way that is respectful)?

I talk to my S13 about "mum's anxiety". How her emotions are so strong that she sometimes gets lost in them. I try to relate it to him being really angry and doing something silly - that's the strength of emotion she feels all the time. I *think* he is able to better cope - I see he doesn't "fight" her as much - although he doesn't have validation yet.
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2016, 08:51:14 AM »



Admit to yourself... .really admit to yourself that you are exhausted and changes MUST be made.

I totally relate.  I have several arthritic/injured joints from military service.  Trying to do more than you can, is actually counterproductive.  Yes, it is always good to "push a little" to be a touch better.  But if you can give a 4 (out of 1-10 effort) and you are attempting to give an 8, because you think you "have to", you will likely get results of a 3 effort.

Hopefully that made sense.

Prioritize and then let the undone stuff... just be undone.

Do you have an autistic specialist?  Make sure you get one and that "caregivers" attend the sessions with him so they can hear directly from the specialist, how to treat your son.  That way you are not the authority figure.

If an adult is no willing to participate in sessions with the expert, then they must defer care to those with proper knowledge.

In you head, you are going to have to be ready to draw a hard line on this.  And eventually be ready to draw one in real life.

Do you have recordings of him saying these things? 

Full disclosure:  The biggest blowup that ever happened in my family involved me stopping corporal punishment in our house.  My wife still brings it up and gripes about not being able to do it, but I don't budge.  My kids haven't been hit in... .gosh... .about two years.

Back to limited energy.  Focus that energy on boundaries to protect your energy.  Focus on you and your tasks that are high prioritiy. 

Does your husband work?

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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2016, 01:50:48 PM »

Just so long as you have a way to cope. You need stuff for YOU. Do you have friends who can visit (just to keep you sane). Hobbies? Work? Exercise helps too - any movement will improve your general health - and if you can do it WITH the kids then that's even better.

I have a retail job pt and run 2 etsy shops.  Most of my friends have been driven off, now we are only friends on facebook.  I do have 1 close friend that comes over. My kids love her. She is the one who he got jealous of my daughter telling her that she loved her.

I talk to my mom and my brother but I feel like they are sick of hearing it.  My mom told me "Well I'm sorry you got yourself into this mess."  I feel like a burden.  I feel like they look at their phone and see if me and they are like "whats wrong this time". Like they have to take a breath before they answer.

The kids and I take walks as long as I feel up to it.  I also take walks with my  Autistic S9, when he is about to or having a meltdown.

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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2016, 02:24:37 PM »

Admit to yourself... .really admit to yourself that you are exhausted and changes MUST be made.

I totally relate.  I have several arthritic/injured joints from military service.  Trying to do more than you can, is actually counterproductive.  Yes, it is always good to "push a little" to be a touch better.  But if you can give a 4 (out of 1-10 effort) and you are attempting to give an 8, because you think you "have to", you will likely get results of a 3 effort.

Hopefully that made sense.

Prioritize and then let the undone stuff... just be undone.

I am starting to admit that that to myself. I am exhausted, am tired- physically, mentally & emotionally.

I understand to well about trying to do to much being counterproductive.  Even more so because I am severely allergic to dust mites.  So my allergist said to not even be in the house when dusting or vacuuming is taking place and not to be around smoke (husband smokes and smells like a cigarette).  If I dont do the cleaning it doesn't get done.  When I have a good day and have a bunch of energy I will power clean, but then I will end up making my self sick in the process and be out of commission for a few days.

His cigarettes aggravate my allergies too.

Do you have an autistic specialist?  Make sure you get one and that "caregivers" attend the sessions with him so they can hear directly from the specialist, how to treat your son.  That way you are not the authority figure.

If an adult is no willing to participate in sessions with the expert, then they must defer care to those with proper knowledge.

Do you have recordings of him saying these things?

FF

I don't have an autism specialist yet.  He was diagnosed near the end of this past school year.  I do have him in therapy with his twin sister (i think she may be autistic too).  I plan to contact CMH, so that he can get a specialist.  That is a good idea to have someone else tell him how to handle S9.

I don't have any recordings.  My D14, D9, D4 and the baby all get to hear all of his rants and rages and threats.  My 14 yr old told me later that she didn't know whether to call 911 or not.  He is that scary.  He hasn't actually hit someone yet, but I don't want to wait around for that to happen.

Does your husband work?

FF

He does work.  He works hard most of the time.  He will go thru phases where he will say home 1 to 2 days of the work week.  But he gets paid in cash.  I never know how much he actually made.  He will get mad at me and refuse to give me bill money.  Say hes just going to stack it.  Other times he will pay it no problem.  I have to underestimate the amount for bills and play a balancing act because if the bills are too much he will rage about and find a way to make it my fault. I never know who is coming home on payday.  It is really hard to plan, budget and pay bills when you can't depend on the income of someone who wants to be worshiped for everything he does as "head of the household" and "the breadwinner".
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