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VIDEO: "What is parental alienation?" Parental alienation is when a parent allows a child to participate or hear them degrade the other parent. This is not uncommon in divorces and the children often adjust. In severe cases, however, it can be devastating to the child. This video provides a helpful overview.
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« on: January 29, 2026, 08:36:26 AM »

Just popping in for an update. Have the current blowout and updates on tj legal front.

I mean the BS continues. I think one of my last posts I talked about how we went to Mexico for New Year’s and she had a couple bad blowouts on the vacation. Not uncommon, she seems to enjoy ruining special occasions. However, after that, things have been relatively calm for a few weeks. I was on the fence whether to bother having a conversation with my wife about cutting back some expenses. I just changed my tax withholding and because of that my take-home pay is being reduced quite a bit. So there were a couple minor personal expenses I told her she would need to cover moving forward, and also that I would be essentially cutting in half the amount that I spent on eating out every month.

At first, I was kind of hesitant to even have that conversation because I am essentially planning to file for a divorce in the next couple of months or so. So I kind of figured why not just suck it up and not create an issue. But it was interesting because I was starting to have that confused mindset of this feeling like everything is calm and maybe she’s doing better… And after all these damn years, I don’t know how I still think that’s even possible. Trauma bonding is a bitch. Ultimately I had that conversation. As usual I was calmly sitting down and just letting her know for a couple things on my end of finances that needed to change. That was Sunday. The circular conversations and anger started. It’s been a couple hours every day, this revolving door of what’s bothering her. And it’s really funny too because it’s always much easier for me to see the pattern afterwards. She started to make claims that she wasn’t even upset about the money, she was upset that I had the conversation when she told me she didn’t want to talk about money for a couple of weeks so she could see what her new pay was going to be like (she picked up a few hours at one of her jobs) so she did ask me to not have that conversation and she wanted to wait, but for me it wasn’t about setting up a budget together. This was simply about telling her what I could afford on my own. And I told her she really didn’t need to make any big changes at the moment but I needed to tell her since my take-home pay is reduced now. But it was really funny and ironic because she tried to make a huge deal about how she wanted to pause the conversation and I wouldn’t respect that. I almost wanna laugh if not cry about that. Coming from the woman who will never take a break. Who believes that I am there to exist as her emotional sponge and suck up whatever she wants to expel. Telling me that I’m not doing anything to help this marriage because I am refusing to go back to marriage therapy. And if we don’t work out then she’s going to tell everybody how she wanted to go to marriage therapy but I wouldn’t go. (As a quick recap, our previous two Couples Therapist stopped therapy together, stating my wife needed her own therapy to deal with her emotional regulation and anger, which he has not done.) I mean, I don’t really care, I told her I will not go to couples therapy until I feel safe and that we can manage conflict a lot more health fully. And I said the fact that she’s in a multi day blowout after that simple conversation tells me very clearly. We’re nowhere near ready for a couples therapy.

She talked a lot about divorce, maybe she needed to get an apartment and separate. She asked if I would help her look for an apartment if that’s what she wanted to do, I said if that’s really what she chooses to do of course I’ll help her. Of course she was mad about that because I wasn’t chasing her or begging her to stay… I slept in the spare room a couple of nights, she was very upset that I didn’t come in check on her in the middle of the night or try to come back to bed. Again expecting me to chase. Then she was also upset yesterday because I thought she was kind of calming down to baseline and we had texted a little bit back-and-forth while we were working, but she said that she was expecting me to make a grand gesture, such as offering to take her out first thing in the morning. And it’s so wild because she had texted me a couple things and then I called her in the afternoon and actually she said why don’t we go out and grab an appetizer tonight or something and just try to have a chill night. But of course that wasn’t good enough because I’m not chasing after her, I’m not begging. I’m not pleading. I’m not acting sad and for Lauren. She expects me to be matching her emotions and be upset about this as her. It’s very upsetting to her that I’m just letting her do her own thing, I’m very comfortable to sleep in the spare room Laugh out loud (click to insert in post). It’s really something to watch her scream at me and look at me with those BPD eyes of just contempt. Yelling at me one second and then telling me that she doesn’t feel my love and I need to do things to make her feel loved.

Who knows where it’ll be today. I’ve had thoughts back-and-forth if I should’ve just avoided that conversation but in the end, I think I’m glad. You know every time something happens. It’s just 100% validation that I don’t wanna be married to her. And to be honest, sometimes I don’t think she really wants to be married to me either. There’s a piece of me that kind of hopes she’ll be relieved at the end of the day. I mean, likely not but…

Onto some more substantial updates. I had a couple really big meetings this week. I had a consultation with the divorced lawyer, also had a consultation with a guardianship attorney regarding my adult disabled son.

This was at least the third divorced lawyer I talked to and I liked her the best. She is a little more expensive than when I talked to last year. However, the one I talked to last year, had absolutely no concept of high conflict personalities and didn’t really even understand. There might be a problem with us cohabitating, pulse accusations at all that. The one I met with this week seemed very well informed, shared a lot of examples of divorces with men whose wives made false accusations, or were exhibiting high conflict behavior. And I think we definitely agree on their approach, definitely going to go for the easiest approach to start with and really avoid escalating if it all possible. She was very generous with her time as well. I had to pay for the 30 minute consult, but we spent well over an hour on the phone and she was not rushing to get me off or anything.

So I’ve talked to some family members and trying to cobble together the $5000 retainer to get things started.  I’ll be able to borrow some from family, but we’ll either be using a credit card or getting some money liquidated out of an IRA in case I need to have funds ready and available quickly. I guess does that mean I can call my wife, my STBX? I do feel a little guilty, the last few days when my wife was seemingly calm she even brought up the prospect of divorce and separation seriously. And it seems very confusing moments where you’re kind of like is she for real or is this a game or can I trust that she’s going to stay calm if I actually agree with her that maybe it’s time to start talking about divorce? She basically said neither of us have been very happy for the last eight years, which is very true. She said maybe it’s time we really think about making a change so we can enjoy the rest of our lives. And if it wasn’t for the hundreds of hundreds of times that she’s exploded it felt like that would’ve been a good time to have that conversation with her. But reading Bill Ed’s book and reading some of the other material it’s pretty pretty clear that I cannot take that chance. So I do feel like I’m being deceptive at the moment. Just being affectionate and calm and kind and loving and taking her out but meanwhile in the background, I’m basically planning documents and preparing to file for divorce.

I feel like I’m reaching the point of no return very soon. I’m about to shell out a substantial amount of money for this. We have some family events where some out of state family is coming in about five weeks to visit. Ideally for me I wanna wait until after that. So right now I’m thinking mid to end of March. But I think it’ll be comforting getting everything ready as soon as possible then just being prepared and having someone available in the event I do have to call the police and DV charges or a TRO becomes necessary. And also someone that can help me if there’s false accusations made against me. So I got 6 to 8 weeks too figure everything out.

I have my two adult kids who live with us. I think I might be able to get one out of the house for the week. I’m gonna talk to my wife about it. I don’t know yet what I’m gonna do with my son. Ideally it would be best if he was away somewhere as well.

I’ve installed a couple more internal security cameras. I’m making a checklist of all the important items around the house that I want to make sure I box up and move out into storage, including important documents, passports, and what not. I’m gonna be installing a deadbolt on the spare room door. I don’t know exactly how I’m gonna time it, but I’m gonna have to pick a day when she’s out of the house at work, I can literally get everything staged, pack, and move the things out of the house that I want to be sure are safe and install that deadbolt and get some of the security cameras up all before she gets home.

It’s exciting, but it’s terrifying. I was actually fantasizing this week in between all the anxiety about all this stuff, fantasizing about what it will look like afterwards. To live in peace. I know I’m gonna be broke financially, but I’m still thinking about some sort of a trip I could take, either a solo trip by myself or take my kids somewhere. Just to finally have a vacation in bloody peace.

Of course there’s the guardianship matter as well. I don’t know what the hell I’m gonna do if she creates a stink about that. It’s really a separate matter entirely. And could be even more costly than the divorce if I had to essentially litigate, removing her as coguardian. Gonna start with the simplest options first which is simply try to see if we can work out a deal then we technically don’t have to change anything on the guardianship papers. Ideally, our son would live with me and go stay with her whenever they want and we would just kind of leave it open. But I’d be ultimately responsible for his care, finances and all that. I mean, if it comes down to it, I’d offer her a little more alimony to keep that arrangement. .But if she does act out and I end up having to call the police or file DV charges or get a temporary restraining order, I’m gonna let the guardianship lawyer know who will advise the court then we may have to go from there on other options.

Wish me luck, as always, advice and input are very welcome!
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2026, 10:34:53 AM »

... Ultimately I had that conversation. As usual I was calmly sitting down and just letting her know for a couple things on my end of finances that needed to change. That was Sunday. The circular conversations and anger started. It’s been a couple hours every day, this revolving door of what’s bothering her. And it’s really funny too because it’s always much easier for me to see the pattern afterwards. She started to make claims that she wasn’t even upset about the money, she was upset that I had the conversation when she told me she didn’t want to talk about money for a couple of weeks so she could see what her new pay was going to be like (she picked up a few hours at one of her jobs) so she did ask me to not have that conversation and she wanted to wait, but for me it wasn’t about setting up a budget together. ...

It's funny to get upset over that.  The overwhelming sense of entitlement they must have to throw a multi-day tantrum because their spouse deigned to talk to them calmly about something all couples have to manage and resolve is really something.

I felt like they believed they had the sole right to make demands in the relationship and have a need to talk about something, so when the non-disordered partner showed any sign of also having needs and wants, it was like you're violating their turf, and they were going to make you so miserable for doing that, you'd never want to talk again, just listen.

Wish me luck, as always, advice and input are very welcome!
Good luck.

At this juncture the only advice I have is:

- you're going to spend a lot more than $5000.  Unless by some miracle your STBXW concedes everything, in which case you probably won't be spending more than $20-$25K, this is going to run you closer to $50K or more.  And that's not counting the guardianship issue.

- Stay on top of your attorney, without being annoying about it.  And if she's not responding reasonably promptly, consider changing attorneys.  And if she needs something from you, make sure you respond promptly as well.  Don't sit on things, and if something happens that seems significant or could impact your case, let your attorney know ASAP and follow up if they don't acknowledge or respond.

In my case, I learned BPDxw had a new guy living in our house a couple months after I moved out and filed for divorce, in violation of the morality clause she had insisted be put in our temporary orders!  I emailed my attorney to let him know and ask about it.  A couple months later, after we lost a motion, he made a big deal about how he should've known about this.  I found the email to him later and resent it, and he played dumb.  He was a bad attorney.  I should've changed counsel mid-divorce.  But I was complacent, didn't want to go through with that, and figured I would end up in court again sooner or later, which... is something you should really try to avoid, as I later learned the hard way.  Cook when the stove is hot.  It's a lot harder and more expensive to turn it on again, so to speak.  Live and learn. 

- Understand that at the amount you're paying, you'll likely need to be your own advocate at times & stay on top of issues.  To most family law attorneys, there's "WOW, I NEED TO KEEP THIS CLIENT HAPPY" money... e.g. they know they're going to bank well into six figures in legal fees if they keep the client happy, and then there's "ONCE THE RETAINER IS SPENT, THIS GUY IS GOING TO STRUGGLE TO KEEP UP" money.

Maybe you'll get lucky and find an attorney that is professional and diligent even for your case, but most likely you'll have to keep on them, because you're not a "whale".
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